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Is forced vaccination related to the mark of the beast?

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So in regards to the OP, what evidence do we have the globalists are using COVID-19 to setup a totalitarian one world government and its relation to the mark of the beast?

What scripture from the gospels and epistles clearly demonstrate a future one world totalitarian government that Christians are to watch out for?

As to political events relating to "the mark of the beast"; I have come to a different conclusion on this issue. I don't believe the 666 is the "mark of the beast". That's presenting a different truth as related to the "mark of the beast". The "number of the man" are those who are "subtracted out" from the "number of the beast".

"Mark" of the beast has two different applications.

1. One of the terms "mark" used in Revelation means "siege trench". The "siege trench" is in relation to "buying and selling". The "siege trench mark" has been in development since the 1750's as the global banking system has grown to suck up all kinds of enterprises and nations. The "siege trench" mark is imposed upon anyone today who uses the global monetary system that's based off the petro-dollar. There are only 3 nations today who aren't "directly" tied to this system; Iran, N. Korea and (I think) Syria is the third?

That "mark" though is not the same as the "mark" that becomes the "end game" to all those seeking power through satanic evil enterprises. Be that power political, economic, social or what ever. To "receive" that "mark" means to "run after to take hold of" (corrupted power). It is "active voice".

The "siege trench" mark is passive. The "siege trench" is imparted upon the public by these power elites. Very few people on the planet don't have the "siege trench" mark. And the "siege trench" mark is not he mark that ultimately condemns one. The "mark" one "runs after to take hold of" is the one that condemns them.

So for those "worried" about receiving the mark of the beast. One of those marks (the siege trench one) you already have. Almost all of the human race has that one.

2. Now the other "mark"; imparted upon those who've sold out to evil is fairly easy to spot if you know what you're looking for. Those enterprises involve things such as drug trafficking, human trafficking, the porn industry. Those power elites all control the banking system, the media, the global political apparatus, the religions (religious apparatus) that are all connected to the global political apparatus. The "movers and shakers" and all who run after them in pursuit of the power this corruption promises are those cast into the Lake of Fire on account of "receiving" the "mark of the beast".

But yes, I do believe these power elites are doing their best to try and bring about their agenda into the current world. Scripture seems to indicate though that God allows them all to get to the cusp of bringing about this agenda and then suddenly Christ returns and that's THE END. It's Judgement Day.

So is Covid "part of the plan"? I believe it is; but not in the same way dispensationalists believe it is. Ultimately though, God is in control of what ever it is Covid "accomplishes" or fails to accomplish. Covid is certainly playing into God's plan; even if it isn't exactly "cooperating" with the global elites.
 
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Arrests, search warrants, and seizure of computers and cell phones on charges of ‘incitement’ for a Facebook post daring to organize a peaceful protest against draconian lockdown measures. Other ‘ringleaders’ have been arrested as well.

Another visit from the australian covid gestapo. This time with battering rams and outright physical assault. Covid is just the pretext, soon it will be for any reason they see fit.

Jack booted thugs await you if you dare try to exercise free speech.
(note the police logo - inverted pentagram/Sigil of Baphomet)
 
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Are you suggesting the Book of Revelation should be excluded from the Bible?

No, I'm suggesting that revelation, a highly symbolic book with hundreds of different interpretations, should be interpreted through the scriptures, mainly the gospels and epistles, in order to prevent personal interpretation.

what's the difference between your interpretation and dispensationalist's, if your not going to use the gospels and/or epistles to interpret revelation?

How many of your "reputable sources" can pass the following test, written by the same man who recorded the Gospel of John, and the Book of Revelation?

This is sidestepping BAB. What sources do you use as evidence that globalists are using COVID-19 to establish a totalitarian one world government?
 
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As to political events relating to "the mark of the beast"; I have come to a different conclusion on this issue. I don't believe the 666 is the "mark of the beast". That's presenting a different truth as related to the "mark of the beast". The "number of the man" are those who are "subtracted out" from the "number of the beast".

"Mark" of the beast has two different applications.

1. One of the terms "mark" used in Revelation means "siege trench". The "siege trench" is in relation to "buying and selling". The "siege trench mark" has been in development since the 1750's as the global banking system has grown to suck up all kinds of enterprises and nations. The "siege trench" mark is imposed upon anyone today who uses the global monetary system that's based off the petro-dollar. There are only 3 nations today who aren't "directly" tied to this system; Iran, N. Korea and (I think) Syria is the third?

That "mark" though is not the same as the "mark" that becomes the "end game" to all those seeking power through satanic evil enterprises. Be that power political, economic, social or what ever. To "receive" that "mark" means to "run after to take hold of" (corrupted power). It is "active voice".

The "siege trench" mark is passive. The "siege trench" is imparted upon the public by these power elites. Very few people on the planet don't have the "siege trench" mark. And the "siege trench" mark is not he mark that ultimately condemns one. The "mark" one "runs after to take hold of" is the one that condemns them.

So for those "worried" about receiving the mark of the beast. One of those marks (the siege trench one) you already have. Almost all of the human race has that one.

2. Now the other "mark"; imparted upon those who've sold out to evil is fairly easy to spot if you know what you're looking for. Those enterprises involve things such as drug trafficking, human trafficking, the porn industry. Those power elites all control the banking system, the media, the global political apparatus, the religions (religious apparatus) that are all connected to the global political apparatus. The "movers and shakers" and all who run after them in pursuit of the power this corruption promises are those cast into the Lake of Fire on account of "receiving" the "mark of the beast".

But yes, I do believe these power elites are doing their best to try and bring about their agenda into the current world. Scripture seems to indicate though that God allows them all to get to the cusp of bringing about this agenda and then suddenly Christ returns and that's THE END. It's Judgement Day.

So is Covid "part of the plan"? I believe it is; but not in the same way dispensationalists believe it is. Ultimately though, God is in control of what ever it is Covid "accomplishes" or fails to accomplish. Covid is certainly playing into God's plan; even if it isn't exactly "cooperating" with the global elites.

You answered neither of my questions. So i'll ask again

1.) in regards to the OP, what evidence, besides your own personal opinion, do we have the globalists are using COVID-19 to setup a totalitarian one world government and its relation to the mark of the beast?

2.)What scripture from the GOSPELS AND EPISTLES clearly demonstrateS a future one world totalitarian government that Christians are to watch out for?
 
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What sources do you use as evidence that globalists are using COVID-19 to establish a totalitarian one world government?

I will start with the initial claim that 3-4 million people in the U.S. would die of COVID-19, based on the word of a man named Ferguson in the U.K.?
Even though he insisted others stay at home, Ferguson made sure to see his girlfriend at the same time. His model was completely discredited within a month of the lockdown, but the lockdown continued as if he was correct.

Even though the Spanish Flu of 1918 killed 10% of those infected, healthy people were never put in quarantine.

Why did the Hollyweird crowd sponsor a nationally televised musical event in cooperation with the U.N. urging people to stay at home in lockdown?

Why is the man in charge of W.H.O. a politician, instead of a doctor? Is this agency a part of the United Nations, which promotes world government?

Who was one of the first heads of the United Nations? His name was Alger Hiss.
NOVA Online | Secrets, Lies, and Atomic Spies | Alger Hiss


My local funeral home was told to code all deaths except traffic accidents, and gunshot wounds, as COVID-19. Did this order produce accurate data?

The governor of North Carolina shut down church services, until a Federal judge stopped him.

The same governor ordered pharmacists not to fill certain prescriptions used to treat COVID-19, even though the man does not have a medical degree.

Even though the data shows young people are more likely to die of the seasonal Flu, or to spread the seasonal Flu, schools have been shutdown.

Why has the mask become a national symbol, and people not wearing a mask have been shamed for... "Wanting to kill Grandma...".

Why has attorney Alan Dershowitz claimed nobody has a right to refuse the COVID vaccine, and the government has the right to hold you down and shove a needle into your arm? Keep in mind this man was also Jeffrey Epstein's attorney, and admitted he had a "massage" at Epstein's house.

Why has COVID-19 been used as the excuse for printing trillions of dollars out of thin air? Sooner, or later there will be a day of economic reckoning. Those who understand basic economics are now sounding the alarm. Look at what has happened to other nations of the past who tried this same method of handling debt. If you or I printed counterfeit money we could be sent to prison.


During 2019 economists were predicting a global "economic reset" during 2020.
Now the politicians have an excuse.

My neighbor recently became a believer. The lack of coins, for making change was one of the signs that helped him see the truth.


If you wake up one morning and your freedoms have vanished because the control of your nation was handed over to a one world totalitarian government, remember the warning that you were given during this time. Walter Cronkite said the U.S. would have to give up some of its "sovereignty" to bring about world government. What do you think Cronkite meant?


Eze_33:6 But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand.


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You answered neither of my questions. So i'll ask again

1.) in regards to the OP, what evidence, besides your own personal opinion, do we have the globalists are using COVID-19 to setup a totalitarian one world government and its relation to the mark of the beast?

2.)What scripture from the GOSPELS AND EPISTLES clearly demonstrateS a future one world totalitarian government that Christians are to watch out for?

Again, you didn't read my answers. I won't continue a conversation with you if you don't read the answers.

#1 - What evidence do you have that they are not?

#2 - Why omit the book of Revelation?
 
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Why has computer geek Bill Gates become a global health expert?




Mat 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.


(Although the text above was not intended to apply to Bill Gates, he is working on that team.)

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Why has computer geek Bill Gates become a global health expert?




Mat 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.


(Although the text above was not intended to apply to Bill Gates, he is working on that team.)

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You might find this video interesting.

 
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I will start with the initial claim that 3-4 million people in the U.S. would die of COVID-19, based on the word of a man named Ferguson in the U.K.?
Even though he insisted others stay at home, Ferguson made sure to see his girlfriend at the same time. His model was completely discredited within a month of the lockdown, but the lockdown continued as if he was correct.

Ferguson has a history of grossly overestimating numbers like this. Considering his track record with other diseases, yes, it is surprising that his model was used.

Neil Ferguson's Coronavirus Imperial College Model -- ‘Professor Lockdown’ Resigns in Disgrace | National Review


Even though the Spanish Flu of 1918 killed 10% of those infected, healthy people were never put in quarantine.

That's not technically true. Quarantining is the isolation of some one who has been exposed, not necessarily sick.

Why did the Hollyweird crowd sponsor a nationally televised musical event in cooperation with the U.N. urging people to stay at home in lockdown?

I have no idea.

Why is the man in charge of W.H.O. a politician, instead of a doctor? Is this agency a part of the United Nations, which promotes world government?

Correct, The head of W.H.O. is not a physician, but he does have a doctorate In biology I believe?

I believe yes, the W.H.O is part of the U.N.



My local funeral home was told to code all deaths except traffic accidents, and gunshot wounds, as COVID-19. Did this order produce accurate data?

While I cannot verify your local funeral home, there was a similar rumor in regards to hospitals. And at least for our hospital system, I know this to be untrue.


The governor of North Carolina shut down church services, until a Federal judge stopped him.

Churches were also closed during the spanish flu. Thankfully the body of Christ is not a brick and mortar building.

The same governor ordered pharmacists not to fill certain prescriptions used to treat COVID-19, even though the man does not have a medical degree.

Which prescriptions did he ban from Pharmacies dispensing?

Even though the data shows young people are more likely to die of the seasonal Flu, or to spread the seasonal Flu, schools have been shutdown.

Correct, children ages 1-14 are more likely to die of seasonal flu, while those 15 and older are more likely to die of COVID.

Does this mean children ages 1-14 cannot spread it?

Why has the mask become a national symbol, and people not wearing a mask have been shamed for... "Wanting to kill Grandma...".

Mask controversies are nothing new The Mask Slackers of 1918

Why has COVID-19 been used as the excuse for printing trillions of dollars out of thin air? Sooner, or later there will be a day of economic reckoning. Those who understand basic economics are now sounding the alarm. Look at what has happened to other nations of the past who tried this same method of handling debt. If you or I printed counterfeit money we could be sent to prison.

I'm no economist, so this is not an area where I have expertise in.

Coronavirus and the economy: How the Fed is 'printing' dollars


If you wake up one morning and your freedoms have vanished because the control of your nation was handed over to a one world totalitarian government, remember the warning that you were given during this time. Walter Cronkite said the U.S. would have to give up some of its "sovereignty" to bring about world government. What do you think Cronkite meant?

How does this take away the freedoms we have in Christ?


 
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Again, you didn't read my answers. I won't continue a conversation with you if you don't read the answers.

I read your answers. Nowhere in post 261 did you provide sources or links to evidence that globalists are using covid to establish a 1 world totalitarian government in relation to the mark of the beast. If you don't want to address my actual questions, I'm not sure why you would even respond.

#1 - What evidence do you have that they are not?

1.) that sidesteps my request for what sources you use

2.)
"Conspiracy theories are essentially irrefutable: logical contradictions, evidence showing the opposite, even the complete absence of proof have no bearing on the conspiratorial explanation because they can always be accounted for in terms of the conspiracy. The lack of proof about a plot, or any positive proof against its existence, is turned around and taken as evidence of the craftiness of the secret cabal behind the conspiracy. It is seen as confirmation of the conspirators’ ability to conceal their machinations." (How to spot a conspiracy theory when you see one

#2 - Why omit the book of Revelation?

Where did I say to omit the book of revelation?

Revelation is a very highly symbolic book, with hundreds of different interpretations. How do I know your's is correct, out of all the other interpretations, if you do not use scripture to interpret scripture.

I would like to test YOUR interpretation. What scriptures,from the gospels and epistles, mention a future one world totalitarian government in association with the mark of the beast and demonstrate that your interpretation of revelation is in fact correct?







 
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I read your answers. Nowhere in post 261 did you provide sources or links to evidence that globalists are using covid to establish a 1 world totalitarian government in relation to the mark of the beast. If you don't want to address my actual questions, I'm not sure why you would even respond.

I explained to you what my understanding of the mark of the beast is. I'm not sure why that is inadequate?

Is there a cabal using this global pandemic to try and establish a world wide global government? My answer was: that it wouldn't surprise me if there was. I'm not sure why that answer is inadequate or why I'm suppose to provide you with sources or links with evidence to that end?

If this is what they are doing and this is a deep state operation; do you really think there will be "credible sources" that satisfy your definition of "credible sources"? Probably not, seeing how you lack the ability to acknowledge the possibility that you don't know they aren't. (Why would people in such an organization publish for you to see what they are doing? Even if they came out and said "This is what we are doing!"; would you still not believe? (Probably!)

Just like the virus's origins; you don't have access to the information these other people do. You don't know what the secret service agencies know; so how can you say it is true or it's not?

Many (on the other hand) are looking at all the data they've collected and saying "Here's what this looks like." Others say "here's what it appears is going on". Yet do you really think "generals" in a "war" are going to publish their battle strategy for all (including their enemies) to see?

Your arguments lack the intellectual honesty that the possibility exists. We know this based on what we know of past historical events. And if you were historically savvy; you'd know this too.

Where did I say to omit the book of revelation?

Revelation speaks of a system it calls "the beast".

Revelation is a very highly symbolic book, with hundreds of different interpretations. How do I know your's is correct, out of all the other interpretations, if you do not use scripture to interpret scripture.

The various beasts in the book of Daniel were indeed political kingdoms. The Scripture itself tells you that. The book of Daniel explains a statute who's "head" is Nebuchadnezzar. Then it goes on to explain other kingdoms that are indeed political kingdoms.

Finally it concludes that the 4th (and last) beast is a kingdom like no other kingdom. That "kingdom" is run by Satan, which does have very real political ramifications in the real world.

The Scripture describes the "son of perdition" as Judas Iscariot. Judas was not a "symbolic person"; he was a real one. The symbolic nature of the description took place in real time. The dispensationalists though don't understand how the symbols connected to real events in the 1st century.

This doesn't mean that there isn't some global "deep state" organization trying to force this dispensational narrative onto the rest of the world. There seems to be an awful lot of evidence (going back into the history of the 19th century) of this attempt; Scripture explains to us through that they don't succeed.

What scriptures,from the gospels and epistles, mention a future one world totalitarian government in association with the mark of the beast and demonstrate that your interpretation of revelation is in fact correct?

1 Thessalonians 5:
But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.

2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.

3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.

6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.

Here is one example in other than the book of Revelation that speaks of the end of time. "When they say peace and safety...." Who are "they" (if this is "only symbolic")?
 
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2.)
"Conspiracy theories are essentially irrefutable: logical contradictions, evidence showing the opposite, even the complete absence of proof have no bearing on the conspiratorial explanation because they can always be accounted for in terms of the conspiracy. The lack of proof about a plot, or any positive proof against its existence, is turned around and taken as evidence of the craftiness of the secret cabal behind the conspiracy. It is seen as confirmation of the conspirators’ ability to conceal their machinations." (How to spot a conspiracy theory when you see one

Yet! What if it is indeed true that something you say is "just a conspiracy theory" really isn't?

For example:
Here is the Pentagon on 9/11. Do you see an airplane (or airplane parts) anywhere in this photo?

Does it look to you like a large passenger airplane hit the side of this building?

Where's the plane?.jpg


Now watch this video; notice the roof hasn't collapsed yet. (Note that allegedly this just happened.)

BUT....... Where's the airplane???


Is it physically possible for a 747 to fit into a hole that's about 16 feet wide?

If you want evidence that the "official story" that you're being told, doesn't match the evidence you're looking at; well that's not hard to find!

And this sort of thing has been happening for at last the past 100 years.

Another example:
Portions of the "official narrative" of WWII, don't fit the evidence either.

Start here:

 
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I explained to you what my understanding of the mark of the beast is. I'm not sure why that is inadequate?

I didn't ask for you to explain your understanding of the mark of the beast.

I asked for:

1.) Reputable sources that evidence globalists using covid-19 as a means to establish a totalitarian 1 world government?

2.) what scriptures from the gospels and epistles do you use to support that your interpretation of the beast is correct?





If this is what they are doing and this is a deep state operation; do you really think there will be "credible sources" that satisfy your definition of "credible sources"? Probably not, seeing how you lack the ability to acknowledge the possibility that you don't know they aren't. (Why would people in such an organization publish for you to see what they are doing? Even if they came out and said "This is what we are doing!"; would you still not believe? (Probably!)

that's why conspiracy theories are irrefutable

"Conspiracy theories are essentially irrefutable: logical contradictions, evidence showing the opposite, even the complete absence of proof have no bearing on the conspiratorial explanation because they can always be accounted for in terms of the conspiracy. The lack of proof about a plot, or any positive proof against its existence, is turned around and taken as evidence of the craftiness of the secret cabal behind the conspiracy. It is seen as confirmation of the conspirators’ ability to conceal their machinations." (How to spot a conspiracy theory when you see one

Many (on the other hand) are looking at all the data they've collected and saying "Here's what this looks like." Others say "here's what it appears is going on". Yet do you really think "generals" in a "war" are going to publish their battle strategy for all (including their enemies) to see?

You have to yet to post who these "others" are from reputable sources.

Who are these reputable others that are displaying evidence that COVID-19 was a GOF or escaped from a lab? So far all the articles you have posted have been in agreement with the scientific consensus that it was natural.


Your arguments lack the intellectual honesty that the possibility exists. We know this based on what we know of past historical events. And if you were historically savvy; you'd know this too.

Not true, I have been fully transparent. as stated previously in this thread, I believe a future one world totalitarian government is possible, just as much possible as lizard people existing, aliens walking among us, Jesus returning to sit in a 3rd rebuilt temple building while people sacrifice animals to him, or A.I. becoming sentient and wiping out man kind.


Are all these in the realm or possibility? Yes. Do I believe they will happen based on current evidence? Nope.

Should I go around spreading the gospel is truth and also that A.I. will one day wipe out humanity or that lizard people exist, or that aliens walk among us because that's how I believe revelation should be interpreted?


Revelation speaks of a system it calls "the beast".

That doesn't answer my question. Where did I say to omit the book of revelation?

The various beasts in the book of Daniel were indeed political kingdoms. The Scripture itself tells you that. The book of Daniel explains a statute who's "head" is Nebuchadnezzar. Then it goes on to explain other kingdoms that are indeed political kingdoms.

Finally it concludes that the 4th (and last) beast is a kingdom like no other kingdom. That "kingdom" is run by Satan, which does have very real political ramifications in the real world.

The Scripture describes the "son of perdition" as Judas Iscariot. Judas was not a "symbolic person"; he was a real one. The symbolic nature of the description took place in real time. The dispensationalists though don't understand how the symbols connected to real events in the 1st century.

This doesn't mean that there isn't some global "deep state" organization trying to force this dispensational narrative onto the rest of the world. There seems to be an awful lot of evidence (going back into the history of the 19th century) of this attempt; Scripture explains to us through that they don't succeed.

Babylon, Persia/media, Greece, Rome. Christ came during Rome (4th beast) and the saints have been transferred into the kingdom of the Son.

Daniel 7:17-18 These four great beasts are four kings who will arise from the earth. But the saints of the Most High will receive the kingdom and possess it forever—yes, forever and ever.’

I would disagree that the beast or revelation should be personally intepretated into something scripture does not mention.

1 Thessalonians 5:
But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.

2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.

3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.

6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.

No mention of a one world future totalitarian government in this passage.

Here is one example in other than the book of Revelation that speaks of the end of time. "When they say peace and safety...." Who are "they" (if this is "only symbolic")?

Those dwelling in Jerusalem during leading up to the great tribulation.
 
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A letter written by Corrie Ten Boom, and read by a modern woman, may help you understand the persecution that many of us have never seen.



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Right, so even when governments go bad and we are persecuted, we still do not lose are freedom in Christ.
 
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Right, so even when governments go bad and we are persecuted, we still do not lose are freedom in Christ.


Corrie Ten Boom was told by pastors in China they should have told their congregations persecution was coming, instead of telling them they would escape it.

That is what I am attempting to do now.

Apparently, I am not doing a very good job.

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Pastor Chuck Baldwin's sermon Sunday focused on the effect COVID-19 has had on the Church in America.

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I'm familiar with Chuck Baldwin. I watched almost all of this video. And to him I ask.....

What did Jesus say to Pilate?

"If my Kingdom were of this world, than my servants would fight."

Fight what / who and why?

The job of the Christian is to preach the gospel; not to argue with the government over whether or not you should wear a face mask. Chuck here misrepresents the concept of Christian liberty. It's not political freedom. The concept of "political freedom" is fundamentally deceptive. No one is politically free and those who think that they are / should be; are in the most bondage.

Now economic and civil mobility within a culture is a good thing. We should work and be able to keep what we earn. And no one should be discriminated against based on their race, gender, or what nation they came from originally. All that is Biblically sound fairness.

Yet "render unto Caesar what is Caesar's".

If they tell you to pay tax; (for services you receive such as repairing the streets, supplying you with water, fire, police and emergency services; even providing you with financial resources if you are too old or disabled to work. Do you really think Chuck here is going to reject Social Security when he becomes old enough to collect it?) then.... you pay taxes.

If this really gets as bad as people fear it will; the Christian's job is still to preach the gospel; (so sinners become redeemed). If you wish to take that commission with as little resistance and as much physical freedom to do so as possible; then you become very prudent as to knowing where the battle really is.

For if this "goes as far south" as people fear it will; your job becomes to stay out of the FEMA camp as long as possible. You don't accomplish that end by jumping up and down over something as inconsequential as wearing a face mask.

For.... let's examine what people like Chuck here say, for its veracity of truth: "There is no pandemic!". (And here is a clear demonstration that Chuck himself is twisting the truth.) His stat of 10,000. people with no medical issues have died of Covid in the US alone; and ...... Chuck doesn't think that's an issue???? What percentage of people with no health issues whatsoever die of the flu? The CFR of any infectious disease NEVER excluded people with comorbidities; so..... why make Covid "special" in this.... "new way of tallying death counts"?

If the use of lockdowns were "politically motivated by the Dems" (as we clearly see there is an inconsistent application when it comes to "protests" and riots); why would we not see dishonest attempts to downplay the death toll (as Chuck here quotes) as just another move that's politically motivated for it's own narrative? For after all, you do need opposing narratives to argue over: correct?

But let's just say for argument's sake that Chuck is right and this social distancing / wear a mask / pandemic is just an experiment to see how well they can "control the masses". In eternity, what does that matter?

Saint #1 - "Well my government fed Christians to the lions."
Saint #2 - "Mine put us all in labor camps."
Saint #3 - "Eh.... mine told us there was a pandemic, we had to stay 6 feet apart and made us all wear face masks."

:doh::doh::doh:

Chuck here is toting the same narrative as most of the other churches are. "I'm going to pick up a piece of the victim pie. I'm being persecuted!" Except this "persecution" has absolutely nothing to do with actually preaching the gospel. It has nothing to do with the Christian community helping each other (or their secular neighbors). No governmental authority has outlawed Christianity. The church can still meet; even if it has to do so in smaller numbers. Every religious and civic organization is facing the same "persecution" and there absolutely will be social and economic repercussions across society.

Here's a really good discussion on the economic fallout we are still likely to see; particularly as it applies to real estate:


Yet, here is an exercise in being "black pilled"

What if "these people" (meaning the political cartel here) are actually part of "the beast system"?

 
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What if "these people" (meaning the political cartel here) are actually part of "the beast system"?


They are.

Some of my friends sent me a Q message.
It contained 99% truth, and 1% poison, which will kill you every time.
The message ended with a man as our savior, and a new age philosophy, and free energy for all.
It did not mention Jesus Christ.


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I didn't ask for you to explain your understanding of the mark of the beast.

I asked for:

1.) Reputable sources that evidence globalists using covid-19 as a means to establish a totalitarian 1 world government?

2.) what scriptures from the gospels and epistles do you use to support that your interpretation of the beast is correct?


that's why conspiracy theories are irrefutable

"Conspiracy theories are essentially irrefutable: logical contradictions, evidence showing the opposite, even the complete absence of proof have no bearing on the conspiratorial explanation because they can always be accounted for in terms of the conspiracy. The lack of proof about a plot, or any positive proof against its existence, is turned around and taken as evidence of the craftiness of the secret cabal behind the conspiracy. It is seen as confirmation of the conspirators’ ability to conceal their machinations." (How to spot a conspiracy theory when you see one

You have to yet to post who these "others" are from reputable sources.

Who are these reputable others that are displaying evidence that COVID-19 was a GOF or escaped from a lab? So far all the articles you have posted have been in agreement with the scientific consensus that it was natural.


Not true, I have been fully transparent. as stated previously in this thread, I believe a future one world totalitarian government is possible, just as much possible as lizard people existing, aliens walking among us, Jesus returning to sit in a 3rd rebuilt temple building while people sacrifice animals to him, or A.I. becoming sentient and wiping out man kind.

Are all these in the realm or possibility? Yes. Do I believe they will happen based on current evidence? Nope.

Should I go around spreading the gospel is truth and also that A.I. will one day wipe out humanity or that lizard people exist, or that aliens walk among us because that's how I believe revelation should be interpreted?


That doesn't answer my question. Where did I say to omit the book of revelation?

Babylon, Persia/media, Greece, Rome. Christ came during Rome (4th beast) and the saints have been transferred into the kingdom of the Son.

Daniel 7:17-18 These four great beasts are four kings who will arise from the earth. But the saints of the Most High will receive the kingdom and possess it forever—yes, forever and ever.’

I would disagree that the beast or revelation should be personally intepretated into something scripture does not mention.

No mention of a one world future totalitarian government in this passage.

Those dwelling in Jerusalem during leading up to the great tribulation.

Daniel 7:
22 Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.

23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

Revelation 16:
10 And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain,

So.... when did these things happen? When was the "great tribulation" (Do you actually know that? I know when the "great tribulation" was; I'm curious to know if you do.)

Maybe if you explained to us (whom you are so sure that we know nothing) what the proper interpretation of Scripture is; maybe you would change our minds?
 
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