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Born again can return to old life style?

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I know i was born again christian, but i dont know how it happened that once i gave up to wrong passions and committed sin and before i used like spend a lot of time on the computer and somehow it happened that i by small steps returned to similar lifestyle than before, but of course the difference now is that i try to fight against temptations., but sometimes give up than again stand up. So how is it than once you born again you never make mistakes or you still make sins sometimes but fight it.
 

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We are all flesh and prone to sin. It can be a constant battle to stay pure etc.

To follow Jesus can mean many trials in life. We have to pick up our crosses daily and follow Him.

Every time we fall, we have to get right back up and run to the open arms of Our Lord Jesus Christ. Even St Paul mentioned the thorn in his flesh.

Put all your trust in Jesus.

God bless you
 
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Born again can return to old life style?
Yes, even worse.

But, because he is born again and spirit grows in him, he will never stay in it, but will be drawn to the right path again and again.

As flesh and world is drawing him to sin and evil, the spiritual seed in him is drawing him to God and goodness.
 
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I know i was born again christian, but i dont know how it happened that once i gave up to wrong passions and committed sin and before i used like spend a lot of time on the computer and somehow it happened that i by small steps returned to similar lifestyle than before, but of course the difference now is that i try to fight against temptations., but sometimes give up than again stand up. So how is it than once you born again you never make mistakes or you still make sins sometimes but fight it.
Also, spending a lot of time on the computer is not a sin. Computer is just a tool. You can do useful/good/relaxing things there or you can do evil things there.

The same as without a computer.
 
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So how is it than once you born again you never make mistakes or you still make sins sometimes but fight it.

As sinful Believers in Christ we are saved in part and we are unsaved in part. Light and darkness so to speak. Sheep and goat. This process goes on for as long as we live. If you find that you are a driven by a goat then you can lay down your life for Jesus and become a sheep for the goat is washed off and sin stops in that part of our lives.

Sometimes sin is big and we have many parts of ourselves involved in the wrong doing. Life in dishonesty, lust, worldly pride, or arrogance, envy, rage, hatred, unfaithfulness, adulterous spirits can severely hamper a Christians life and need to be repented from and found new life with Jesus in those parts of self.

i think sanctification goes on all our lives, and we die many deaths and give birth to much new life along the way. In the end it is all collected as one whole and we have to give account. What is not God's in our spirit then will be cut off and done away with.

Peace.

Hebrews 4:12-13
"For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. Nothing in all creation is hidden from God’s sight. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him to whom we must give account."
 
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spending a lot of time on the computer is not a sin. Computer is just a tool.
In case you mean that on the computer you can get into pornography . . . viewing porn is not loving and caring about women and men, but using them. Love does not have us only using people.

So, also, I might not do computer pornography, but in my imagination I can be not caring tenderly in prayer for women while I use them to imagine.

So, porn stuff is not only a mistake, but this can have us missing out on how we can be sharing with God and truly loving. It keeps my attention away from loving and praying God's blessing to people; so it is anti-love.
 
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In case you mean that on the computer you can get into pornography . . . viewing porn is not loving and caring about women and men, but using them. Love does not have us only using people.

So, also, I might not do computer pornography, but in my imagination I can be not caring tenderly in prayer for women while I use them to imagine.

So, porn stuff is not only a mistake, but this can have us missing out on how we can be sharing with God and truly loving. It keeps my attention away from loving and praying God's blessing to people; so it is anti-love.
I do not know how you connected it to pornography. There are many more things you can do with a computer.
 
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I do not know how you connected it to pornography. There are many more things you can do with a computer.
i dont know how it happened that once i gave up to wrong passions and committed sin and before i used like spend a lot of time on the computer and somehow it happened that i by small steps returned to similar lifestyle than before, but of course the difference now is that i try to fight against temptations.,
Ovis does not directly say he uses computer for porn, but in the midst of talking about how he has been able to sin, he mentions computer. So, I am simply offering what I have, just in case. It is reported that porn is a common problem for believing men. And computers these days can be a common way of getting to porn. Ovis, of course, is welcome to speak for himself.
 
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I know i was born again christian, but i dont know how it happened that once i gave up to wrong passions and committed sin and before i used like spend a lot of time on the computer and somehow it happened that i by small steps returned to similar lifestyle than before, but of course the difference now is that i try to fight against temptations., but sometimes give up than again stand up. So how is it than once you born again you never make mistakes or you still make sins sometimes but fight it.
You should have the witness of the Spirit of Christ to your spirit. That's how you know.

The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God's children.

Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you--unless, of course, you fail the test?
 
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I know i was born again christian, but i dont know how it happened that once i gave up to wrong passions and committed sin and before i used like spend a lot of time on the computer and somehow it happened that i by small steps returned to similar lifestyle than before, but of course the difference now is that i try to fight against temptations., but sometimes give up than again stand up. So how is it than once you born again you never make mistakes or you still make sins sometimes but fight it.
Keep fighting it dear brother. It helped me to write scriptures and stick them all around the room/pc.
Also, search for an accountability site to download, so that a friend can receive emails if you visit anything unsavoury. I did this and was eventually delivered six years ago. It’s revolting to me now.
If I’m honest, Sometimes, I’ve had that old feeling ‘what if’ but by His grace, have resisted because I know that it’s not worth feeling separated from The Lord for. Will be praying for you Numbers 6:24-26
 
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Also, spending a lot of time on the computer is not a sin. Computer is just a tool. You can do useful/good/relaxing things there or you can do evil things there.

The same as without a computer.
I mean spending time on computer lets say like watching prank videos on youtube, tiktok, instagram , writing to girls..sometimes feel lust while liking there pictures.
 
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I mean spending time on computer lets say like watching prank videos on youtube, tiktok, instagram , writing to girls..sometimes feel lust while liking there pictures.
You will feel lust also in person on streets, so... the problem is not the computer as such :)
 
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It takes active engagement at times to fight the flesh. It does not come automatically. The Holy Spirit within us is the Helper, but we must co-labor with God. This is why Scripture has such frequent exhortations to put off the old man and put on the new, to reckon the old man as dead to sin, etc. It's going to take prayer and meditation, confessing known sins, and ultimately consecration to the Lord to gain the victory. And some battles are not won in a day. Jericho, for instance, took a week of circling around the problem. So don't give up faith that God will complete the good work He's begun in you (Php 1.6).
 
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I know i was born again christian, but i dont know how it happened that once i gave up to wrong passions and committed sin and before i used like spend a lot of time on the computer and somehow it happened that i by small steps returned to similar lifestyle than before, but of course the difference now is that i try to fight against temptations., but sometimes give up than again stand up. So how is it than once you born again you never make mistakes or you still make sins sometimes but fight it.

Study the three tenses of salvation.
 
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If you're prone to sin while watching videos on your computer, why don't you fast from it? give it up brother, don't give satan a chance to make you keep falling and try to walk in the Spirit so that you don't satisfy the lust of your flesh. God bless
 
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I know i was born again christian, but i dont know how it happened that once i gave up to wrong passions and committed sin and before i used like spend a lot of time on the computer and somehow it happened that i by small steps returned to similar lifestyle than before, but of course the difference now is that i try to fight against temptations., but sometimes give up than again stand up. So how is it than once you born again you never make mistakes or you still make sins sometimes but fight it.

As a Catholic Christian it is important to know that your new birth in Christ happened at your Baptism. This is not only what your church believes, but mine as well, because this is the biblical and historic teaching of Christianity.

Our new birth is not a private experience, or a moral improvement, or a lifestyle modification. It is the objective truth and reality that we have become new people in Jesus Christ, accomplished for us not through our own moral abilities, but by the grace of God.

You can therefore look to your objective once-and-done baptism and say, with full confidence, "I am baptized". Words that make the very walls of hell shake in terror, because of the Lord who brought ruin to it by His death and resurrection. That very Lord to whom you belong, as you have shared in His death, and in His resurrection by that very baptism which makes you His. As we read in Romans 6:3-4, that we died, were buried, and rose with Christ by our baptism. You have died, and you live, in Christ, and your baptism is the testament to this objective fact.

Now to more properly address the question, can you as a baptized Christian walk away from the faith? Yes, there are dire warnings in Scripture that we should not abandon our faith, we should not walk away, we should not shipwreck ourselves. But rather, we are called to abide in Christ, to believe in Christ, to remain in Christ. Do not think of this as you needing to meet some performance criteria; but rather instead it is about recognizing that Christ is our hope and salvation.

To know what you are (what, in fact, each and every one of us is) apart from Jesus--a helpless and hopeless sinner; and to then cling to Christ, cleave to Him like a newborn child clings to his mother. For our hope and our salvation is not a lifestyle, not a compendium of moral obligations, it is not some light switch that is flipped on or off--it is Jesus Christ Himself. And now, resting in Jesus Christ, go and love your neighbor.

Behold the lusts of your flesh, and grieve over these. But do not grieve in the hopelessness. For we have One who has promised us mercy and forgiveness, repent, confess your sins, believe the good news--and now go and love your neighbor.

Mortify your flesh through repentance.
Believe in the Gospel of your salvation.

Learn to mourn over your sin not because God is cruel and holds your sins over your head to threaten you--He does not. But rather learn to mourn over your sin as a child who betrays a loving parent, as a friend who has disappointed a friend. That as we walk and fall in this life, carrying our cross, we can learn that the injuries of our sin isn't in that God's feelings are offended, or as though His nostrils flare in anger--but in that we have failed to do what our loving Father expects of us, that we have not been a brother to the least of these, and this should sadden us. But it is not a sadness that should destroy us, but a sadness that drives us to contrition, and to cleaving all the stronger to God's mercy in Jesus Christ.

I have sought in my life to regularly pray two prayers:

The first is "Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me a sinner." And the second is, "Lord, crucify me." That the Lord might, in His patience and kindness, teach me through life how to die--not in a morbid sense (heaven forbid), but rather that I might learn how to die, and therefore find myself alive. That there is this paradox: That whoever seeks to cling to their life shall lose it, but whoever loses his life shall find it.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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I know i was born again christian, but i dont know how it happened that once i gave up to wrong passions and committed sin and before i used like spend a lot of time on the computer and somehow it happened that i by small steps returned to similar lifestyle than before, but of course the difference now is that i try to fight against temptations., but sometimes give up than again stand up. So how is it than once you born again you never make mistakes or you still make sins sometimes but fight it.
I don't know of anyone who was perfect for the rest of their life after conversion, except for those who had deathbed conversions and didn't have time to sin.
 
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