Question for the Ladies, Men Can Answer as well if they want to

[jardiniere]

I live my life by trying to simplify it. To that extent I've given up slang for the most part, as it's simply easier to use proper* terms for many things, like men, women, child. Not guy, not gal, not kid. And addressing with common honorifics seems safe. This way, I seem to offend the least amount of people, which makes my life easier and hassle-free. The most I've gotten were comments on how properly stilted my language was for typical conversation. It was an astute observation I couldn't fault, but frankly, it makes my life easier. I'm all about me, I guess.

I don't think chick is all that disparaging, no more so than dude. It's quite informal, and used in intimate conversations. You don't often see it used to address women in public.

*socially acceptable, not slang.

 

[Tinker Grey]

chick | Search Online Etymology Dictionary

 

[ToddNotTodd]

Sorry, I wrote this in another section, but I don't think that section is very active. So, I am going to repost it here.

Do you find it disrespectful when young men or any man refer to women as chicks? I don't understand why they do this. There is this chick outside and she was like this or that, is what I hear a lot. My brothers refer to women this way.

Why can't they just say there is this lady outside?

My wife is fine with being called a chick, but hates being called “lady”.

Everyone has there own linguistic preferences.

 

[Sammy-San]

Back in the day, both "chicks" and "hens" were used. A "chick" was unmarried.

And "dude" was originally a term of great derision, a feckless man.

Why do people say kid for young men more than young women?

 

[MehGuy]

Why do people say kid for young men more than young women?

I think it is to highlight that they are not yet a man and still need more experience. Might be partly done out of affection. Believe that is the word Indiana Jones replied back to his son as a retort to his son calling him an old man repeatedly in Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull.

 

[bèlla]

Introverted1293,

I think better descriptors exist for the sexes. But I can’t impose my vernacular on others.

Yours in His Service,

~Bella

 

[Sketcher]

Why do people say kid for young men more than young women?

 

[Sammy-San]

I think it is to highlight that they are not yet a man and still need more experience. Might be partly done out of affection. Believe that is the word Indiana Jones replied back to his son as a retort to his son calling him an old man repeatedly in Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull.

People say androgynous behavior draws undue attention to gender. Do you think that just means who someone is as a person it means it draws undue attention to not just that but also to whats off limits?

 

[Sammy-San]

I think it is to highlight that they are not yet a man and still need more experience. Might be partly done out of affection. Believe that is the word Indiana Jones replied back to his son as a retort to his son calling him an old man repeatedly in Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull.

Why doesnt the same exist for women.

 

[MehGuy]

Why doesnt the same exist for women.

It probably does happen in some form, just makes less sense for this to be as common an occurrence than you see with men. The reality is that biologically men are more expected to be the protector/provider. Even within feminist circles this is often the case, sometimes more-so than the more conservative circles.

 

[Sammy-San]

It probably does happen in some form, just makes less sense for this to be as common an occurrence than you see with men. The reality is that biologically men are more expected to be the protector/provider. Even within feminist circles this is often the case, sometimes more-so than the more conservative circles.

Women are called girls more than men are called boys.

 

[MehGuy]

People say androgynous behavior draws undue attention to gender. Do you think that just means who someone is as a person it means it draws undue attention to not just that but also to whats off limits?

No, I think older men tend to use the term "kid" with younger men who are attempting to act manly. It's just a little trash talking, something to tease and motivate with.

 

[Sammy-San]

No, I think older men tend to use the term "kid" with younger men who are attempting to act manly. It's just a little trash talking, something to tease and motivate with.

One time I used the word kid to refer to someone at church and when someone else was talking about the story of the person who was having religious experiences, and someone else said it was a woman?

 

[Sammy-San]

No, I think older men tend to use the term "kid" with younger men who are attempting to act manly. It's just a little trash talking, something to tease and motivate with.

Are you talking about androgynous behavior.

 

[MehGuy]

Women are called girls more than men are called boys.

Still makes sense under this biological system. Adult women physically resemble children more than men. Even the pitch of their voice and the size of their tear ducts.

 

[MehGuy]

One time I used the word kid to refer to someone at church and when someone else was talking about the story of the person who was having religious experiences, and someone else said it was a woman?

And I'm sure it's in an appropriate context.

Sometimes I watch films from the 1930s and 40s. Seemed back then older men liked to call women "kid" as a way to flirt.

 

[MehGuy]

Are you talking about androgynous behavior.

No.

As far as androgynous behavior and even homophobic behavior I think a lot of that anger has roots in men perceiving other men as failing to live up to their social roles. Mainly to protect women and children. Far from it being internalized misogyny, it's more akin to internalized misandry. Although I don't know if men refer to such men as children in that sense. Feminists like to use the term "manbaby" or "manchild" with no real female equivalent, which probably has similar psychological origins as homophobia. They are fine with men having a limp wrist as long as he is still stoic enough to care about women's issues more than men's and always puts her problems above.

 

[Sammy-San]

No.

As far as androgynous behavior and even homophobic behavior I think a lot of that anger has roots in men perceiving other men as failing to live up to their social roles. Mainly to protect women and children. Far from it being internalized misogyny, it's more akin to internalized misandry. Although I don't know if men refer to such men as children in that sense. Feminists like to use the term "manbaby" or "manchild" with no real female equivalent, which probably has similar psychological origins as homophobia. They are fine with men having a limp wrist as long as he is still stoic enough to care about women's issues more than men's and always puts her problems above.

Why do you think homophobia isnt misogyny? The Ancient Greeks thought that men took the womens role in relationships was unmanly.

 

[Sammy-San]

Still makes sense under this biological system. Adult women physically resemble children more than men. Even the pitch of their voice and the size of their tear ducts.

Is that related to their role as birth giver and nurser?

 

[MehGuy]

Why do you think homophobia isnt misogyny? The Ancient Greeks thought that men took the womens role in relationships was unmanly.

Yeah but what makes someone unmanly? Being weak and submissive, and less able to live out one's expectations to protect women? Something by the way that doesn't just make you unpopular with men but often women too.