My Canis Challenge

[AV1611VET]

If the only Canis to board the Ark was Canis lepophagus, would we eventually have wolves, coyotes, and domestic dogs among us?

 

[Speedwell]

If the only Canis to board the Ark was Canis lepophagus, would we eventually have wolves, coyotes, and domestic dogs among us?

We would no doubt have canids of some description. What's a "top genus?"

 

[Lost4words]

If the only Canis to board the Ark was Canis lepophagus, would we eventually have wolves, coyotes, and domestic dogs among us?

I know for a fact that 2 Corgi's made it onto the ark.

I have a sworn statement from Noah

 

[durangodawood]

If the only Canis to board the Ark was Canis lepophagus, would we eventually have wolves, coyotes, and domestic dogs among us?

Hard to say. Are the conditions under which wolves and coyotes evolved remotely the same as since a purported Noah's time? I doubt it, especially with the human impacts starting a few hundred year ago.

For sure we'd have domesticated dogs tho. We can rely on humans to do that, I think.

 

[Subduction Zone]

If the only Canis to board the Ark was Canis lepophagus, would we eventually have wolves, coyotes, and domestic dogs among us?

First off we know that there was no Ark so your "challenge" fails right there. Second Canis lepophagus was very possibly ancestral to wolves and coyotes and domestic dogs, but to repeat evolution is all but impossible. You are trying to put an artificial goal to evolution and there is no species specific goal to evolution. So it fails even from an evolutionary perspective. At a bare minimum this "challenge" is a double fail.

 

[JackRT]

Hard to say. Are the conditions under which wolves and coyotes evolved remotely the same as since a purported Noah's time? I doubt it, especially with the human impacts starting a few hundred year ago.

For sure we'd have domesticated dogs tho. We can rely on humans to do that, I think.

Canis lepophagus went extinct long before Genesis 1.

 

[durangodawood]

Canis lepophagus went extinct long before Genesis 1.

Well yeah. But he asked if it was brought on board. If we're allowing floods to cover the whole earth for this thought experiment, surely we can bring back some old dogs.

 

[AV1611VET]

Well yeah. But he asked if it was brought on board. If we're allowing floods to cover the whole earth for this thought experiment, surely we can bring back some old dogs.

That's why I call these threads "challenges".

To try to get people to think about something they may have not considered before.

They are indeed "thought experiments."

But they require a high degree of thought, respect and discipline; thus they don't always work.

 

[pitabread]

But they require a high degree of thought,

 

[AV1611VET]

Yes.

 

[Strathos]

They would have to *gasp* evolve!

 

[Subduction Zone]

Yes.

No, not really. As I said, they all fail on the first page usually.

 

[Shemjaza]

If the only Canis to board the Ark was Canis lepophagus, would we eventually have wolves, coyotes, and domestic dogs among us?

Unlikely.

Four/Six thousand years isn't enough time for mutations to create the level of genetic diversity found between those species/sub-species.

If you want to use miracles to explain both the genetic diversity and sufficient food for these animals then it works... but it makes any study of evidence pointless, because literally anything could be true.

 

[VirOptimus]

If the only Canis to board the Ark was Canis lepophagus, would we eventually have wolves, coyotes, and domestic dogs among us?

There where no worldwide flood. Challange failed.

 

[AV1611VET]

There where no worldwide flood. Challange failed.

Yes, you failed the challenge.

 

[VirOptimus]

Yes, you failed the challenge.

No, the challenge failed, there where nothing to fail.

 

[AV1611VET]

No, the challenge failed, there where nothing to fail.

If there was nothing to fail, then what failed?

 

[Subduction Zone]

If there was nothing to fail, then what failed?

The person that presented the "challenge" .

 

[pitabread]

Yes.

You appear to be alone in that opinion.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

You appear to be alone in that opinion.

Perhaps he's overthinking it