Is evolution real?

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And of course we already know the creationist flood model is untenable just by basic physics, but creationists continue to ignore that.

Its pretty easy to make an unsupported statement.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Abstract reasoning; speculation.

A scientific theory is not the same as theory used in colloquial English.

 

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Abstract reasoning; speculation.

Nope.

 

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Its pretty easy to make an unsupported statement.

It's not unsupported. It's a known problem with creationist flood models.

 

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Are you claiming you are familiar with the science behind evolution?

Moreso than your average creationist, yes.

 

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A scientific theory is not the same as theory used in colloquial English.

A Theory by any other name is still speculation.

 

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A Theory by any other name is still speculation.

Nope.

 

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Nope.

Yup!

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

A Theory by any other name is still speculation.

Not in the slightest.

 

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Yup!

Still nope. You don't get to decide what words mean.

That's not how words work.

 

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Moreso than your average creationist, yes.

Meaning you have read numerous books on others beliefs.

 

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Not in the slightest.

Uh huh.

 

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Still nope. You don't get to decide what words mean.

That's not how words work.

Why not, Atheists and Agnostics do it all the time.

 

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Meaning you have read numerous books on others beliefs.

I took courses on the subject in university. Which is again moreso than can be said for your average creationist.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Uh huh.

It's true.
What is a Scientific Theory?
This article explains is easily and simply. But, for a TL,DR: A scientific theory explains the facts of science, such as in germ theory, nuclear theory, or the theory of evolution.

Why not, Atheists and Agnostics do it all the time.

... yeah, no they don't.

 

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Why not, Atheists and Agnostics do it all the time.

Not in my experience. In fact, a re-occurring theme with creationists is having to explain how words and dictionaries work.

It never ceases to amaze me that such discussions are even needed.

 

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It's not unsupported. It's a known problem with creationist flood models.

Baumgardner's computer model is only one of several models. It was developed in 1990 and I would imagine has been refined in many ways.

 

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It's true.
What is a Scientific Theory?
This article explains is easily and simply. But, for a TL,DR: A scientific theory explains the facts of science, such as in germ theory, nuclear theory, or the theory of evolution.

Strange the way Scientists can and are allowed to change the meaning of words to fit their very own beliefs, and you readily accept it as truth, fact.

If a Scientist says it, it must be true.

"The way that scientists use the word 'theory' is a little different than how it is commonly used in the lay public,"......... Hummmm interesting.

 

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Strange the way Scientists can and are allowed to change the meaning of words to fit their very own beliefs, and you readily accept it as truth, fact.

If a Scientist says it, it must be true.

"The way that scientists use the word 'theory' is a little different than how it is commonly used in the lay public,"......... Hummmm interesting.

Or it could be the fact that science has a very specific way of doing things and thus needs a very specific use of words to make sure that ideas and facts can be carried across without getting them confused or muddled up.

I really think that you're charging at a giant that doesn't exist here, Senor Don Quixote.

 

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Strange the way Scientists can and are allowed to change the meaning of words to fit their very own beliefs, and you readily accept it as truth, fact.

If a Scientist says it, it must be true.

"The way that scientists use the word 'theory' is a little different than how it is commonly used in the lay public,"......... Hummmm interesting.

I never thought speciation was considered as macro-evolutionism...yet the evo's need macro-evolutionism so they claim it to be.

I think speciation is still micro-evolution.