Nobody is trying to prevent death, nobody is trying to prevent a ship from sinking. Again; your analogy fails.Just like you can't stop a ship from sinking by throwing buckets of water overboard.
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Nobody is trying to prevent death, nobody is trying to prevent a ship from sinking. Again; your analogy fails.Just like you can't stop a ship from sinking by throwing buckets of water overboard.
There is a big difference between forestal vs preventYou're trying to forestall it, i.e. prevent it from happening for as long as you can.
I don't know... Quite a lot has been accomplishedBecause if there is always a tomorrow, nothing will ever get done.
The very concept of a deadline contradicts your thesis.I don't know... Quite a lot has been accomplished
while under the influence of the notion that there is
always tomorrow. The seeming eternity of
tomorrows that have lead up to this point in time
has had its abundance of deadlines that were met
to prove that.
Conversely, I'd probably get even less done if I
genuinely lived as though today were my last (as
the rather trite saying goes).
But to each their own.
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That hasn't been my experience, but likeThe very concept of a deadline contradicts your thesis.
If atheism is true, the best you can hope for is nothingness. So yes, it is nihilistic.
So per your analogy, why would someone throw buckets of water from a sinking ship if the goal was not to prevent the ship from sinking completely?I never meant 'prevent completely'.
I'm not. It's mildly infuriating that there's most likely nothing after death.I am satisfied with nothingness after death. Live your best life knowing that it is all there is.
So per your analogy, why would someone throw buckets of water from a sinking ship if the goal was not to prevent the ship from sinking completely?
What is atheism without naturalism?Sorry for coming in late, but you're confusing atheism with a philosophy of Naturalism. All Naturalists are atheists, but they're a subset of atheists. There is nothing to prevent atheists from believing in the supernatural. They just don't think a god is involved.
For example, an atheist could very well believe in reincarnation. Or even a heavenly (or nirvana-like) afterlife of some sort.
What is atheism without naturalism?
Would someone believing in ghosts but not God qualify as a non-naturalists atheist?Not believing in a god. By itself it's not meant as a philosophy of life, the universe and everything. Individual atheists can add whatever philosophy they like to that. There are Buddhist atheists, Taoist atheists, Naturalist atheists etc.
If delaying the inevitable is the only goal, then this completely refutes the claim you made back on post #74Because they are desperately trying to hold on as long as they can.
Post #74 you were trying to make the argument that life is worthless if it is not infinite. You saidHow so?
Apparently you don't know what it means to be atheist
the finite of its own cannot be valued because it does not exist to be valued. Only what exists can be valued. that which ceases to exist has no value because it is not. Being finite has meaning because it is a mode of the infinite. The finite can be appreciated and experienced because it is a servant to Eternal realities that can Eternally enjoy that which ends and begins. you can derive finite things from infinite things but how could someone derive something infinite from what is finite? Therefore what is infinite is more important by its very nature.I don't understand this theory of value. How is something made more valuable by being infinite? Typically value in things comes from scarcity not infinite abundance. To me life is more valuable due to it being finite and there not being resolution afterwards
games are fun to play but when you become so obsessed and focused on them you start to harm yourself and neglect other parts of reality. but it is fun to get caught up in the competition, especially when there is a time limit on it and when there are others that you can compete with. some also like to compete with themselves. the lowest level of meaning is evolutionary meaning which is a crystallized symbol for higher meaning. Symbols are meant to point us to realities. getting good at having the things you need is nothing more than being a good slave. Only Eternal realities such as love and wisdom have lasting meaning, and only living beings can have love or wisdom. things only matter because the self and others are important and fundamental to reality. If there is no self there can be no meaning. If a self ceases to exist it can have no meaning. Meaning which perishes does not exist.The focus I bring to life, the desire to accomplish is based on the fact that I know one day I will not be here. Because if there is always a tomorrow, nothing will ever get done.
For example, an atheist could very well believe in reincarnation. Or even a heavenly (or nirvana-like) afterlife of some sort.