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Do you believe the KJV is the one and only perfect and divine Word of God?


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Texe Marrs was a quack and you are still using a biased source for the akJVO position.

I have asked you now several times for non-biased information. You have failed to provide it which leads me to conclude you don't have any.

Do you have no biased sources or not?

I honestly don't think anything will convince you. You have chosen your side of the battle long before the evidence was laid forth. If you actually looked at my points, I don't think you were in any way open to them but you were more for proving how they are not true. Evidence needs to be weighed in the balance. The bereans were more noble because they searched out the Scriptures to see whether those things be so or not. We have to be good detectives and not biased or bad detectives. But I know my words are wasted here. Nothing I will say will convince you. Only God can convince you of this truth (if you are open to hearing it). Right now, it does not look like you want to be under a final Word of authority. That's your choice. You have chosen your side. I have chosen my side and it is the pure Word of God. I can have confidence in God's Word and not have any doubts about His Word being true (Which cannot be said for your position).
 
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The problem I have with newer translations is they use vatican scrolls I prefer the Byzantine texts. I do not trust the vatican.

You are aware that it was the Catholics that compiled the Bible?
 
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You are correct and you have bought into it hook line and sinker.

The deception is that the KJVO is the only version of the Bible that people should read. That is how the devil is attacking God's word. This is why I have said and I'm not the only one in this thread to say it, the KJVO position is from the pits of hell.
The KJV is the only Byzantine Scripture I prefer that to the vatican scrolls sorry the vatican killed so many saints of God I don't trust a word they say.
 
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The problem I have with newer translations is they use vatican scrolls I prefer the Byzantine texts. I do not trust the vatican.

Some KJV proponents do not believe the texts were Byzantine. They simply prefer to call them the Antiochian texts or the Received Text. But I agree that the two Alexandrian texts (which were discovered both by way of Catholic origin) are not my guide as the Word of God. One manuscript was discovered in a Catholic monastery in a desert. The other one was found locked away in a Catholic vault. Westcott and Hort who were occultists had ceased the opportunity to base their NT Greek text off these manuscripts endorsed by the Catholic church.
 
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Folks are not thinking from our enemy's perspective here in how he desires to change God's Word. Surely the devil does not want us to trust or believe God's Word.

I have asked you many times to show where the Gospel and way of salvation are different in the NIV, for example, to the KJV - you can't.

The devil doesn't want anyone to read the Gospel, find out how to be saved from eternal death and hell, and the fact that he (the devil) was defeated on the cross. He wants to keep people from reading Scripture because Scripture tells us the truth about him - that he is a liar and a murderer and his days are numbered. All translations of the Bible says this.
 
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I honestly don't think anything will convince you. You have chosen your side of the battle long before the evidence was laid forth. If you actually looked at my points, I don't think you were in any way open to them but you were more for proving how they are not true. Evidence needs to be weighed in the balance. The bereans were more noble because they searched out the Scriptures to see whether those things be so or not. We have to be good detectives and not biased or bad detectives. But I know my words are wasted here. Nothing I will say will convince you. Only God can convince you of this truth (if you are open to hearing it). Right now, it does not look like you want to be under a final Word of authority. That's your choice. You have chosen your side. I have chosen my side and it is the pure Word of God. I can have confidence in God's Word and not have any doubts about His Word being true (Which cannot be said for your position).

Translation of the above post is this:

I don't have any non-biased sources to prove that what I say is true. I can only find sources that are biased for my position and since you won't believe them you are wrong.

I am asking for non-biased sources so that I can see that what you are saying is true. I am sorry that I won't believe sources that are biased towards your position and that I am asking for non-biased sources to corroborate what you're saying. That is how you get people to believe you, by posting the same information from non-biased sources. I won't comment again on another feeble attempt to discredit me.
 
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You are aware that it was the Catholics that compiled the Bible?

This is usually a false assertion based on claiming that Erasmus was the creator of the KJV. 47 translators worked on the KJV. One faction or side of the translators were Puritan. The other side were Anglican. The King was a buffer to make sure that neither side was pushing one another's agenda alone or solely.

Actually in the real world history, Catholics tried to take out King James with a superbomb. This was to no doubt stop in part due to him creating a Bible to be in the hands of the common man. But believe what you will. I know nothing will convince you.
 
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I have asked you many times to show where the Gospel and way of salvation are different in the NIV, for example, to the KJV - you can't.

The devil doesn't want anyone to read the Gospel, find out how to be saved from eternal death and hell, and the fact that he (the devil) was defeated on the cross. He wants to keep people from reading Scripture because Scripture tells us the truth about him - that he is a liar and a murderer and his days are numbered. All translations of the Bible says this.

There is going to be things we agree upon. That is why I can have fellowship with believers who are not against my position strongly.

But at the end of the day, we are all going to have to given an account to Jesus Christ Himself. You cannot explain how Modern Translations make Jesus appear to sin, put the devil's name in places for Christ and other holy things. You cannot explain how fasting is removed to cast out a persistent devil, etc. It's too much. Too much. The line has been drawn. The corruption is subtle but if you notice it.... it's enough to make a good believer want to vomit. But believe as you will. Only God can reveal this truth to you if you are truly seeking the truth. Most are not seeking the truth on this matter. I can only pray that others may see in time so that the enemy does not win in whatever deception he hopes to gain or destroy a believer by his subtle change of God's Word.
 
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This is usually a false assertion based on claiming that Erasmus was the creator of the KJV. 47 translators worked on the KJV. One faction or side of the translators were Puritan. The other side were Anglican. The King was a buffer to make sure that neither side was pushing one another's agenda alone or solely.

Actually in the real world history, Catholics tried to take out King James with a superbomb. This was to no doubt stop in part due to him creating a Bible to be in the hands of the common man. But believe what you will. I know nothing will convince you.

No, in the real world, the Catholics compiled the Bible long before King James was alive. Probably by about 1200 years or so.
 
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I have asked you many times to show where the Gospel and way of salvation are different in the NIV, for example, to the KJV - you can't.

The devil doesn't want anyone to read the Gospel, find out how to be saved from eternal death and hell, and the fact that he (the devil) was defeated on the cross. He wants to keep people from reading Scripture because Scripture tells us the truth about him - that he is a liar and a murderer and his days are numbered. All translations of the Bible says this.

The great commission has been altered. If you trust Modern Translations over the KJV, you believe that you must MAKE disciples. The KJV simply says to preach the gospel, baptize, and to teach his commandments. We can teach. But we cannot make or force a person to believe. We cannot make anything. One plants, and another waters.... but it is God that gives the increase.

Also, if you adhere to certain Modern Translations (like the NIV, NLT, GNT) over the KJV, your John 3:16 is in error. It says that Jesus is the Father's one and ONLY Son. But the KJV properly says that Jesus is the only BEGOTTEN Son. We are sons of God, too. So it would not be a true statement that Jesus is the ONLY Son of God. But Jesus is the only BEGOTTEN Son of God. So the KJV is telling the truth and certain Modern Translations are lying to you.
 
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I hold no love for Catholicism, but I do believe they are one of the oldest denominations and are the ones that compiled the Bible.

Jesus said a good tree cannot bring forth bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bring forth good fruit. The Bible itself testifies by its own words this,

“The words of the LORD are pure words...” (Psalms 12:6).

Sounds like a good tree to me. The Bible is pure and it's author is God.
It's simple. God is good, and His Word is good and undefiled.
You are saying that there is no pure Word and that our Bible comes from Catholics.
I believe God and not you.
 
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The great commission has been altered. If you trust Modern Translations over the KJV, you believe that you must MAKE disciples. The KJV simply says to preach the gospel, baptize, and to teach his commandments. We can teach. But we cannot make or force a person to believe. We cannot make anything. One plants, and another waters.... but it is God that gives the increase.

Also, if you adhere to certain Modern Translations (like the NIV, NLT, GNT) over the KJV, your John 3:16 is in error. It says that Jesus is the Father's one and ONLY Son. But the KJV properly says that Jesus is the only BEGOTTEN Son. We are sons of God, too. So it would not be a true statement that Jesus is the ONLY Son of God. But Jesus is the only BEGOTTEN Son of God. So the KJV is telling the truth and certain Modern Translations are lying to you.

Now your grasping at anything to try and prove your side.
 
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Jesus said a good tree cannot bring forth bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bring forth good fruit. The Bible itself testifies by its own words this,

“The words of the LORD are pure words...” (Psalms 12:6).

Sounds like a good tree to me. The Bible is pure and it's author is God.
It's simple. God is good, and His Word is good and undefiled.
You are saying that there is no pure Word and it has been defiled by Catholics.
I believe God and not you.

Did I not warn you about bearing false witness?
 
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My point is that you are making history as if it was the sole basis for your faith.
I believe God's Word first by observational evidence over historical evidence.
Historical evidence is only valid if the observational evidence wins out first.

To learn about the difference between Observational Science (Evidence) vs. Historical Science (Evidence), check out this short animated video by Answers in Genesis.

 
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