Biden might be in trouble.

[KCfromNC]

But we were talking about violations against women, rather than violations of law.

I don't know, someone else brought up consentual cheating on a spouse as if it were relevant. As others have mentioned, the standards here seem quite fluid depending on which party the offending, well, party is a member of.

Violating campaign finance laws is also a major issue, but not one of abuse against women.

One area where it overlaps are the accusations of threats of violence if the women didn't go along with Donald's plans :

Stormy Daniels Tells ‘60 Minutes’ That Fear of Trump Kept Her Silent

The pornographic film star Stephanie Clifford told “60 Minutes” that she struck a $130,000 deal for her silence about an alleged affair with Donald J. Trump in the final days of the 2016 campaign because she was worried about her safety and that of her young daughter.

That concern, she told “60 Minutes” in an interview broadcast on Sunday night, was based on a threat she received in 2011 from a man who approached her in Las Vegas. She said the threat came after she sold her story about Mr. Trump for $15,000 to Bauer Publishing, which finally published the interview in its magazine InTouch early this year​

 

[KCfromNC]

Remind me what the bible says about lies and gossip?

Does it also say something about obnoxiously large bold-faced fonts in forum posts? And abuse of the 7 key? Please say it does, the post you're quoting is quite jarring.

 

[Belk]

If we read further
telling the truth is also a big one.
M

Might want to give that a shot then.

 

[Mountainmanbob]

Might want to give that a shot then.

I will follow you.
M

 

[Belk]

I will follow you.
M

Empirical evidence suggests otherwise.

 

[Ophiolite]

So why is it a voice over on the video until he actually gets off the bus? There is no image of him saying any of that at all...access pedowood, I mean access Hollywood and all...what you see and what you hear are two different things. I hear a voice...I see a bus???

You do know...those big wigs in pedowood want him dead and buried...just like the angry anti Trump hating mob...ulterior motives comes to mind.

Can't fake a tape...wonder why tape recordings are inadmissible in court?

I shouldn't be helping the opposition, but you clearly need it. Emotionally loaded, agenda driven, knee-jerk prompting rhetoric may play well with fellow Trump supporters, but it will push the fence sitters firmly into the other camp. (But if you insist on continuing don't be offended if I give you a few along the way. They are funny.)

 

[Mountainmanbob]

Biden, in resurfaced 'View' video, said no need to prove case against Kavanaugh beyond 'reasonable doubt'

 

[SimplyMe]

Biden, in resurfaced 'View' video, said no need to prove case against Kavanaugh beyond 'reasonable doubt'

I find it odd that you and other Republicans have such a hard time with that statement. Biden said (from the Fox article, "A Supreme Court hearing is not a trial. It's a job interview. It's a job interview, and you don't have to prove a reasonable doubt anything as to why you shouldn't put so and so on the court."

Sounds exactly like the standard Republicans were using with Hillary last election, so I'm not sure why you object to Democrats using it for a Supreme Court hearing.

 

[Mountainmanbob]

I find it odd that you and other Republicans have such a hard time with that statement. Biden said (from the Fox article, "A Supreme Court hearing is not a trial. It's a job interview. It's a job interview, and you don't have to prove a reasonable doubt anything as to why you shouldn't put so and so on the court."

Sounds exactly like the standard Republicans were using with Hillary last election, so I'm not sure why you object to Democrats using it for a Supreme Court hearing.

The same standards that Biden once shared can now be used against him.
M

 

[Albion]

Sounds exactly like the standard Republicans were using with Hillary last election, so I'm not sure why you object to Democrats using it for a Supreme Court hearing.

A candidate for election to the presidency is not a nominee for the Supreme Court. So, not an "exactly like" at all.

 

[rjs330]

Yes, that's true. I suppose I should have been more specific and less vague. But my point still stands because we've witnessed 4 years of his conservative supporters fervently defending him and trying to justify their vote for him. It's pointless for any of them to point a judgmental finger at Joe Biden, tbh.

"No one is sinless and perfect."

"Who among us is without sin?"

"At least he's not Hillary Clinton."

"I voted for the lesser of two evils."

"I voted for a President, not a pastor."

"Trump's sins are between him and God."

"Christians shouldn't judge Trump for his sins."

"I didn't vote for Trump because he was a choir boy."

"Trump's bragging about sexually groping women was locker room banter."

You're missing the REAL point. Republicans have been blasted and attacked for voting for Trump because of his poor character. Nevermind Clinton's character wasn't any better. That aside,
conservatives are using the current Biden situation to point out the lefts hypocritical stance. We honestly are all bent out of shape over Biden's issues. But we bring it up BECAUSE the left has been so HYPOCRITICAL. It's all about the hypocrisy of the left. Pointing out they are NOT really concerned about character. They are concerned about politics. They don't really care about the things they claim to care about. They only care about political ideology. They have been EXPOSED. Biden has been exposed.

New Biden Accuser: He Complimented My Breasts When I Was 14 Years Old

 

[SimplyMe]

A candidate for election to the presidency is not a nominee for the Supreme Court. So, not an "exactly like" at all.

No, it isn't. A Supreme Court nominee is investigated by the FBI, is vetted by the Senate, and then a vote is taken. This typically occurs over a few weeks and, in the case of Kavanaugh, was trying to be "expedited" by the Republicans in the Senate. They basically refused any delay in the vote to even bother investigating -- a major reason Biden (and other Democrats) made those types of statements.

The same standards that Biden once shared can now be used against him.
M

Sure, and I'm absolutely positive that you won't be voting for Biden in the fall -- and may even use this as one of the reasons (despite it will all be hearsay, there will be no "beyond a reasonable doubt"). Though it will be odd that you won't hold Trump to the same standard, with the 25ish allegations against him.

 

[SimplyMe]

You're missing the REAL point. Republicans have been blasted and attacked for voting for Trump because of his poor character. Nevermind Clinton's character wasn't any better. That aside,
conservatives are using the current Biden situation to point out the lefts hypocritical stance. We honestly are all bent out of shape over Biden's issues. But we bring it up BECAUSE the left has been so HYPOCRITICAL. It's all about the hypocrisy of the left. Pointing out they are NOT really concerned about character. They are concerned about politics. They don't really care about the things they claim to care about. They only care about political ideology. They have been EXPOSED. Biden has been exposed.

New Biden Accuser: He Complimented My Breasts When I Was 14 Years Old

No, Republicans are being blasted for hypocrisy. Democrats were the ones who have always stated they weren't voting for a "Pastor-In-Chief." The Republican mantra has always been that "Character Matters," to include sexual impropriety (at least when it was a Democrat like Clinton). Yet that suddenly changed when it comes to Trump. Those same leaders of the Religious Right who claimed Republican moral superiority prior to 2016 suddenly changed their positions in 2016 to whitewash Trump. This is where the double standard is in regards to "character."

Though, I will agree, for both sides it is not about "character" it is about politics -- both Republicans and Democrats have proven it multiple times over the last 50 years.

 

[Tiberius Lee]

Few other threads popped up in this form about Biden sexuality and all of them originated by Trump supporter. I see many Biden supporter defending Biden.

I can’t speak for others.. but for me .. I don’t care what are Biden’s fault .. I will vote for him .. because I am “ABT – Anybody but Trump” Camp. You can call me hypocrites, you can call me dabble standard , you can call me what ever name you like .. that is fine with me.. nothing will change my mind. Our country can’t afford another 4 years of Trump. I will take all the name calling from you as long as we can replace Trump.. that is very little sacrifice than what can happen to our country if Trump is elected.

For Democrat – here is the thing you need to understand – Trump Supporter doesn’t care about sexual immorality , hypocrisy , double standard , nepotism, lying and cheating and everything you name it – they will bring those up against Biden and say “ look how bad Biden is ..” , but when it comes to their candidate .. not only they will look the other way, sometimes they consider these characters as virtues for their candidate!

 

[rjs330]

No, it isn't. A Supreme Court nominee is investigated by the FBI, is vetted by the Senate, and then a vote is taken. This typically occurs over a few weeks and, in the case of Kavanaugh, was trying to be "expedited" by the Republicans in the Senate. They basically refused any delay in the vote to even bother investigating -- a major reason Biden (and other Democrats) made those types of statements.



Sure, and I'm absolutely positive that you won't be voting for Biden in the fall -- and may even use this as one of the reasons (despite it will all be hearsay, there will be no "beyond a reasonable doubt"). Though it will be odd that you won't hold Trump to the same standard, with the 25ish allegations against him.

Yes he will as will the vast majority of conservatives. We won't be NOT voting for Biden because of this. We will be NOT voting for him because of his political beliefs. You could present a squeeky clean Democratic candidate and if he had the same political beliefs that Biden has we wouldn't vote for him. Because we believe those policies are far more destructive to America than his moral failings.

That's how bad it's gotten unfortunately.

 

[rjs330]

No, Republicans are being blasted for hypocrisy. Democrats were the ones who have always stated they weren't voting for a "Pastor-In-Chief." The Republican mantra has always been that "Character Matters," to include sexual impropriety (at least when it was a Democrat like Clinton). Yet that suddenly changed when it comes to Trump. Those same leaders of the Religious Right who claimed Republican moral superiority prior to 2016 suddenly changed their positions in 2016 to whitewash Trump. This is where the double standard is in regards to "character."

Though, I will agree, for both sides it is not about "character" it is about politics -- both Republicans and Democrats have proven it multiple times over the last 50 years.

With the 2016 election the Republicans had two choices between bad character. Up until then they always seemed to have people of decent character running. The choice was easy. Then in 2016 we faced the ultimate dilema. And the conservatives chose soley based upon politics.

Quite frankly conservatives have come to realize that political beliefs are more important than character, to a point. We've also come to realize that while Trump's character hasn't been great. Much of the attacks against him are false.

Is Trump a good guy? Nope. And Character does matter. But it has been relegated to second place when it comes to the good of the entire country. You could have a pristine candidate that is a communist or socialist and we would not vote for them. Even if they faced a conservative candidate with poor character.

As you said, both sides are now in the same boat. Politics are more important than character.

 

[Tiberius Lee]

Yes he will as will the vast majority of conservatives. We won't be NOT voting for Biden because of this. We will be NOT voting for him because of his political beliefs. You could present a squeeky clean Democratic candidate and if he had the same political beliefs that Biden has we wouldn't vote for him. Because we believe those policies are far more destructive to America than his moral failings.

That's how bad it's gotten unfortunately.

Bingo – that is my point in last post – Trump supporter will not for Biden even if he perfect as long as he keeps his policy same.. same goes for Biden supporter .. no matter what Trump became .. we will not vote for him .. because we believe he is utterly incompetent!

 

[CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN]

You're missing the REAL point. Republicans have been blasted and attacked for voting for Trump because of his poor character. Nevermind Clinton's character wasn't any better. That aside,
conservatives are using the current Biden situation to point out the lefts hypocritical stance. We honestly are all bent out of shape over Biden's issues. But we bring it up BECAUSE the left has been so HYPOCRITICAL. It's all about the hypocrisy of the left. Pointing out they are NOT really concerned about character. They are concerned about politics. They don't really care about the things they claim to care about. They only care about political ideology. They have been EXPOSED. Biden has been exposed.

New Biden Accuser: He Complimented My Breasts When I Was 14 Years Old

Conservative are the ones screaming about God and morals. So, of course when you elect someone worse than any Democrat. You look bad and so does your religion. That 14 year old , that made up the breast story has all ready been debunked. Since there's proof he wasn't there. Woman accuses Biden of sexual harassment over alleged incident when she was 14 -- but organizer denies he was at event Just another liar.

 

[A_Thinker]

Few other threads popped up in this form about Biden sexuality and all of them originated by Trump supporter. I see many Biden supporter defending Biden.

I can’t speak for others.. but for me .. I don’t care what are Biden’s fault .. I will vote for him .. because I am “ABT – Anybody but Trump” Camp. You can call me hypocrites, you can call me dabble standard , you can call me what ever name you like .. that is fine with me.. nothing will change my mind. Our country can’t afford another 4 years of Trump. I will take all the name calling from you as long as we can replace Trump.. that is very little sacrifice than what can happen to our country if Trump is elected.

For Democrat – here is the thing you need to understand – Trump Supporter doesn’t care about sexual immorality , hypocrisy , double standard , nepotism, lying and cheating and everything you name it – they will bring those up against Biden and say “ look how bad Biden is ..” , but when it comes to their candidate .. not only they will look the other way, sometimes they consider these characters as virtues for their candidate!

Yep ... Republicans have made it all about power.

Democrats would be wise to remember that ....

 

[Pommer]

Yes he will as will the vast majority of conservatives. We won't be NOT voting for Biden because of this. We will be NOT voting for him because of his political beliefs. You could present a squeeky clean Democratic candidate and if he had the same political beliefs that Biden has we wouldn't vote for him. Because we believe those policies are far more destructive to America than his moral failings.

That's how bad it's gotten unfortunately.

Voting “on principle” works better if the candidate you’re casting your ballot for holds to any!