That you may know the Lord makes a distinction between the nations and Israel

[Lulav]

Todays Parasha

The last two plagues - the introduction of Passover - The dividing of the Heathen from G-ds people.

Exodus 10: 20-23

But the L-RD hardened Pharaoh's heart, so that he would not let the children of Israel go. And the L-RD said to Moses, Stretch out your hand toward heaven, that there may be darkness over the land of Egypt, even darkness which may be felt. And Moses stretched forth his hand toward heaven; and there was a thick darkness in all the land of Egypt three days: They (Eygpt - Heathens) saw not one another, neither rose any from his place for three days: but all the children of Israel had light in their dwellings.


Exodus 11:4-7

So Moses said, “Thus says the L-rd: ‘About midnight I will go out in the midst of Egypt, and every firstborn in the land of Egypt shall die, from the firstborn of Pharaoh who sits on his throne, even to the firstborn of the slave girl who is behind the handmill, and all the firstborn of the cattle. There shall be a great cry throughout all the land of Egypt, such as there has never been, nor ever will be again. But not a dog shall growl against any of the people of Israel,either man or beast, that you may know that the Lord makes a distinction between Egypt and Israel.

Exodus 10: 20-23 and Exodus 11:4-7 Speak of two things

Darkness and Death

These two things were the last to be done before Israel could break free from the bonds of Egypt.

Some think the last plague was the greatest but the one leading up to it says a lot about how G-d sees his people, Israel and those it is made up of.

The Egyptians were made to withstand 3 days of unnatural darkness, yet during those three days Israel had light in their dwellings.

Those three days I believe represented the three days that the earth felt while Yeshua was in the grave.

It was also a sign given to the people all gathered in Jerusalem that knew the story of Passover and the preceding plague which lasted 3 days by having this repeated while he hung on the Cross.

Luke 23:44 Now it was about the sixth hour, and there was darkness over all the earth until the ninth hour.​

Ex 10 - and there was a thick darkness in all the land of Egypt three days: They saw not one another, neither rose any from his place for three days

The Greek word translated 'darkness' means total obscurity and can mean physically or spiritually.

Do you think there will come a day when we will see a repeat of that?

Will darkness separate G-ds people from the heathens who hate him?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

The Greek word translated 'darkness' means total obscurity and can mean physically or spiritually.

Do you think there will come a day when we will see a repeat of that?

Physically? Yahweh Knows. Perhaps when His permanent disciples, ekklesia called out born again ones, are put in dungeons, prisons, rooms with no light for days, weeks, years ?

Spiritually ? 'A repeat of that' ? Perhaps many places already ? For the last 2000 years even ?

 

[Lulav]

Are you saying his Saints have been in darkness for the last 2000+ years?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

but all the children of Israel had light in their dwellings.

Likewise, everyone in Christ , abiding as one with Him.

 

[Lulav]

I think that darkness that could be felt was like a deep depression, a taste of what it will be like to be without G-d, what some call Hell.

 

[Lulav]

Likewise, everyone in Christ , abiding as one with Him.

There aren't two separate children of G-d.

You are either a part of Israel or the nations, you can't be a separate entity.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

I think that darkness that could be felt was like a deep depression, a taste of what it will be like to be without G-d, what some call Hell.

Many multitudes have testified (not necessarily in Christ, not necessarily Jewish, not necessarily born again Ekklesia) ,
frquent depression, uncontrollable, never cured (for them, so far )....

Others may have found the solution in Christ Jesus, and been set free , eh ?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

There aren't two separate children of G-d.

You are either a part of Israel or the nations, you can't be a separate entity.

Clarify what you mean .....

 

[Lulav]

I'm thinking it would be akin to this.

Matt 8:11 I say to you that many will come from the east and the west to share the banquet with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven. 12 But the sons of the kingdom will be cast into the outer darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

Matt 22:12 ‘Friend,’ he asked, ‘how did you get in here without wedding clothes?’ But the man was speechless. 13 Then the king said to the servants, ‘Bind him hand and foot, take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’

Matt 25:29 For everyone who has will be given more, and he will have an abundance. But the one who does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him. 30 And cast the unprofitable servant into the outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’


Seems Matthew is the only one who uses this term, and it's only found, the 'outer' kind of darkness in his Gospel.

 

[Lulav]

Clarify what you mean .....

Just like in the exodus and the Wilderness, all the people that left Egypt (the heathens) were not of the twelve tribes, but they were given the opportunity to join them and have the L-RD G-d be their G-d. These then were adopted into the Tribes, some say the have Gentile tribes of Ephraim or Manasseh, as Josephs children by an Egyptian wife.

 

[Randy777]

Jesus explained to Nicodemus that you must be born again as in born of the Spirit.
Such people are the children of God.
John-children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God.
Anyone who has the Spirit of Christ in them would know the Father and Son.
Jesus-Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent

Paul also spoke of this inward circumcision.
A person is not a Jew who is one only outwardly, nor is circumcision merely outward and physical. No, a person is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a person’s praise is not from other people, but from God.

God writes the new covenant on the hearts of the believer and they know Him.
“This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel
after that time,” declares the Lord.
“I will put my law in their minds
and write it on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.
No longer will they teach their neighbor,
or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’
because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest,”

God has given the right to those that are in Christ to be called the children of God.

But to all who received him, who believed in his name, he gave power to become children of God.

Jesus is the heir of all things and the seed of Abraham. If you are in Christ you are a fellow heir.

 

[Lulav]

Jesus explained to Nicodemus that you must be born again as in born of the Spirit.
Such people are the children of God.
John-children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God.
Anyone who has the Spirit of Christ in them would know the Father and Son.
Jesus-Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent

Paul also spoke of this inward circumcision.
A person is not a Jew who is one only outwardly, nor is circumcision merely outward and physical. No, a person is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a person’s praise is not from other people, but from God.

God writes the new covenant on the hearts of the believer and they know Him.
“This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel
after that time,” declares the Lord.
“I will put my law in their minds
and write it on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.
No longer will they teach their neighbor,
or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’
because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest,”

God has given the right to those that are in Christ to be called the children of God.

But to all who received him, who believed in his name, he gave power to become children of God.

Jesus is the heir of all things and the seed of Abraham. If you are in Christ you are a fellow heir.

I never mentioned Jews, I said Israel and thanks for posting Jeremiah 31:31 it helps to prove my point.

The New Covenant is only made with (as G-d Said He would make)

“This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel
after that time,” declares the Lord."

If you are not 'of Israel' you are not one of the children.

 

[visionary]

I never mentioned Jews, I said Israel and thanks for posting Jeremiah 31:31 it helps to prove my point.

The New Covenant is only made with (as G-d Said He would make)

“This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel
after that time,” declares the Lord."

If you are not 'of Israel' you are not one of the children.

And the commonwealth of Israel is where the gentiles fit.

 

[Randy777]

I never mentioned Jews, I said Israel and thanks for posting Jeremiah 31:31 it helps to prove my point.

The New Covenant is only made with (as G-d Said He would make)

“This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel
after that time,” declares the Lord."

If you are not 'of Israel' you are not one of the children.

Likewise those that God calls His children
children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God.

Therefore those not in Christ are not the children

So if you want to hold to your thought then those in Christ are Israel.

 

[visionary]

Likewise those that God calls His children
children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God.

Therefore those not in Christ are not the children

So if you want to hold to your thought then those in Christ are Israel.

Blindness in part, until the time of the gentiles be fulfilled.

 

[HARK!]

There aren't two separate children of G-d.

You are either a part of Israel or the nations, you can't be a separate entity.

There seems to be a little more to it than that. Here is what I have on the subject:

(CLV) Hb 8:8
For, blaming them, He is saying, "Lo! the days are coming," the Lord is saying, "And I shall be concluding with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah a new covenant,

(CLV) Hb 8:10
"For this is the covenant which I shall be covenanting with the house of Israel after those days," the Lord is saying: "Imparting My laws to their comprehension, On their hearts, also, shall I be inscribing them, And I shall be to them for a God, And they shall be to Me for a people.

(CLV) Mt 15:24
Now He, [Yahshua] answering, said, "I was not commissioned except for the lost sheep of the house of Israel."

 

[Randy777]

Blindness in part, until the time of the gentiles be fulfilled.

Rev 11 - 1260 days of testimony in Jerusalem. Those that reject that testimony and take joy in the deaths of the two witnesses will be deceived into following the lie of the beast so as to be condemned for they have not repented of their evil ways nor believed God. Those that believe that testimony and call on the Lord will become member's of the body of Christ. The gathering will be on the last day from the ends of the heavens to the ends of the earth. Such people will be clothed with immortality.

 

[Randy777]

(CLV) Hb 8:8
For, blaming them, He is saying, "Lo! the days are coming," the Lord is saying, "And I shall be concluding with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah a new covenant,

(CLV) Hb 8:10
"For this is the covenant which I shall be covenanting with the house of Israel after those days," the Lord is saying: "Imparting My laws to their comprehension, On their hearts, also, shall I be inscribing them, And I shall be to them for a God, And they shall be to Me for a people.

(CLV) Mt 15:24
Now He, [Yahshua] answering, said, "I was not commissioned except for the lost sheep of the house of Israel."

The covenant Jesus introduced was introduced in Israel first. It is binding. Those in Christ are in that covenant relationship with God. No one else.

 

[HARK!]

The covenant Jesus introduced was introduced in Israel first.

I fail to see why where the covenant was introduced is relevant. The scripture you responded to says "with Israel," not "in Israel." So in this case Israel isn't a "where." It's a "who."

Those in Christ are in that covenant relationship with God. No one else.

Correct, and from what I've seen in scripture, that leaves only the possibility of being in one of two groups.

(CLV) Hb 8:8
For, blaming them, He is saying, "Lo! the days are coming," the Lord is saying, "And I shall be concluding with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah a new covenant

From what I see, one must either be, of the House of Israel, or of the House of Judah, in order to be included in YHWH's renewed covenant.

 

[pinacled]

I fail to see why where the covenant was introduced is relevant. The scripture you responded to says "with Israel," not "in Israel." So in this case Israel isn't a "where." It's a "who."




Correct, and from what I've seen in scripture, that leaves only the possibility of being in one of two groups.

(CLV) Hb 8:8
For, blaming them, He is saying, "Lo! the days are coming," the Lord is saying, "And I shall be concluding with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah a new covenant

From what I see, one must either be, of the House of Israel, or of the House of Judah, in order to be included in YHWH's renewed covenant.

A house is a family.
The entire house offered salvation is a reminder of The Honorable Bond of peace washing ones soul.

The lamb of yhdh is the seal in blood that the whole of israel accepts.
The fourth born who holds a blessing from his father

Yhdh having the gift of grace, never defiled The Holy Name.