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Too bad the Democrat Politicians had Jeffrey Epstein killed. If he would have sang about all of the Politicians he had dirt on, we'd clean the swamp up real fast!
Wow ... how did the Republicans let that happen ?
So you don't think Slick Willy Clinton is worst then Trump?
No ...

* They both had multiple affairs

* They both lied about the affairs

* They both lied under oath (nope ... Trump has avoided testifying under oath to-date)

* They both have had women acuse them of sexual assault

* They both have had multiple wives (Nope ... that's just Trump)

* They both scheduled government events at their businesses (Nope ... that's just Trump)

* They both extorted a foreign power for personal gain (Nope ... that's just Trump)

I think Trump wins ...
 
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Wow ... how did the Republicans let that happen ?

No ...

* They both had multiple affairs

* They both lied about the affairs

* They both lied under oath (nope ... Trump has avoided testifying under oath to-date)

* They both have had women acuse them of sexual assault

* They both have had multiple wives (Nope ... that's just Trump)

* They both scheduled government events at their businesses (Nope ... that's just Trump)

* They both extorted a foreign power for personal gain (Nope ... that's just Trump)

I think Trump wins ...


maybe talk to the Democrats about Epstein. Considering they completely allow any Felon of any kind vote in Bernie Sanders controlled state.

Who here thinks that Felons in prison, should be able to have a say in who is the next President? Not me. These are the murderers and rapists, and yet they have the right to vote!? That's just crazy! That's Democrat Politicians for ya though.

You forgot to add Bill going to fantasy island and taking advantage of underage girls???
 
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Not one person has accused him of such ...

Darn. Who'd of thunk it?

Liberal Fake News Media, covering up for Liberals Politicians.

It would never happen. Not in a Million years.

I'm curious though? Who owns ABC, NBC, and CBS? All of those channels that everyone in America gets for free? Disney owns ABC. When I found that out my heart kind of sank, because I grew up on Disney movies and shows.
But it does make sense now. The Disney channel is simply becoming more and more like a young children's version of MTV. So materialistic.
 
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Looks like he has made one enemy already IMHO

Definition of ENEMY

Webster defines an enemy as; 1. one that is antagonistic to another
especially : one seeking to injure, overthrow, or confound an opponent
2. something harmful or deadly. alcohol was his greatest enemy.

Technically in this aspect you would be both his, and I's enemy for antagonizing us. However, I do not see either of you as my "enemy", but merely another child of God(such as myself)that believes in God, with a major difference in opinion. I try to respect others opinions. No matter how crazy or illogical I think that they're.

It's not that I have to respect their opinion I guess, because their are some pretty stupid, illogical, and immoral people in the World, now a days.
It's that I have to respect the person behind the opinion, in the aspect of, everyone has a right to their opinion, not matter if they're lying about it, or it have no factual base behind it, any logical base, and any moral base.
This is Why Conservative Talk Radio, and cable networks like Fox News's ratings have been going way up over the years, and Liberal Democrat Media such as ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, and CNN have been loosing millions of Americans that use to watch their Fake News Lying shows. It's because until just recently, nobody ever held these Liberal Lying News shows accountable. They continue to lie, and hardly anything happens when they do, because they're sooooo POWERFUL!!! Well, Trump started holding them accountable, then the Conservative Media did, and finally after several years, other Republican Politicians are jumping in.

Americans are starting to Logically, and Morally see the truth, and hold the Liberal Media, and Liberal Politicians accountable.
 
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I'm curious does the word "evidence" mean anything to you? How about the two word term "false witness?" You are full of accusations, yet you have offered no substantial evidence for your accusations of illegal and odious behavior. Why are you even discussing Bill Clinton? It seems you can't defend President Trump and instead are deflecting.
 
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Darn. Who'd of thunk it?

Liberal Fake News Media, covering up for Liberals Politicians. (snip)
Ahhh! the famous "Lock Her Up!" President Trump supporter belief in "always guilty if your last name is Clinton". :wave:
tulc(just back from cooking dinner for 300+ family and friends) ;)
 
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I'm curious does the word "evidence" mean anything to you? How about the two word term "false witness?" You are full of accusations, yet you have offered no substantial evidence for your accusations of illegal and odious behavior. Why are you even discussing Bill Clinton? It seems you can't defend President Trump and instead are deflecting.

What's funny about what you're saying is that Democrat Politicians are the ones the Psychologically project most of the things that they do upon Republicans.
"False Witness" is a good term though. Who's this magical Whistle Blower and why do only the Democrat Politicians get to ask him or her questions? and if the Democrat Politicians wanted the whole truth supposedly to be exposed, wouldn't they let the Republican Politicians interview the supposed Whistle Blower?

Ironically the Uranium 1 deal with Obama, Joe Biden's Son, Hillary Clinton smashing up computers, shredding documents and washing hard drives cleans. These things have already happened. The Mueller report. He didn't find anything. Why?

Where are your facts? I have mine. I have logic backing mine up.
 
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(snip) The Mueller report. He didn't find anything. Why? (snip)
hmmm..."didn't find anything"?
Here's a breakdown of indictments and cases in Mueller's probe
Over the course of his nearly two-year-long probe, special counsel Robert Mueller and his team of prosecutors have now indicted 34 individuals and three Russian businesses on charges ranging from computer hacking to conspiracy and financial crimes.

Those indictments have led to seven guilty pleas and five people sentenced to prison
I don't know about you, but the above looks like an awful lot of somethings to me. :wave:
tulc(prefers evidence and links perhaps Simon/Rock could post some in support of his position?)
 
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hmmm..."didn't find anything"?
Here's a breakdown of indictments and cases in Mueller's probe

I don't know about you, but the above looks like an awful lot of somethings to me. :wave:
tulc(prefers evidence and links perhaps Simon/Rock could post some in support of his position?)

He didn't find anything that was an "impeachable offense" that was directly related to Trump. That's why America is sick and tired of the Democrat Politicians going after Trump, and hearing about it. It's good for Trump though. Ultimately he will win re-election, and regain the house.

The democrat Politicians already knew that they were going to lose, and that nobody could beat Trump, and that is the only reason they tried doing this. Luckily the American people can see the truth for themselves.
Well, most can.
 
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He didn't find anything that was an "impeachable offense" that was directly related to Trump.
Link?

That's why America is sick and tired of the Democrat Politicians going after Trump, and hearing about it. It's good for Trump though. Ultimately he will win re-election, and regain the house.
...or he wont. That's what makes politics so much fun. :D

Yes, yes I understand that this is the "talking point" most supporters of President Trump are trying to push now, and I'll admit, it's just as amusing now as it was the last time someone said it, and it will be just as "true" then as it will be until they decide on trying some other talking point. I suspect the next one will be something about "America will FALL APART!!/REBEL!! if President Trump isn't re-elected!" Because that one would be even funnier then this one. :oldthumbsup:
tulc(can't wait until the Republican Party tries the "WE never voted for President Trump!" talking point) :D
 
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In the ABC News link that you sent me, I see people that have worked with Trump at one point and time, but for some odd reason I don't see Trump himself being indicted for anything?

You should ask what Disney Channel of what they think about Trumps Impeachment process. After all, Disney owns ABC!

I was talking about Donald Trump. I thought we were on the same page, but I guess not? Donald Trump are none of those people. So I don't know why you even sent me that link? To show that some of the people that he's been affiliated with before have been indicted?
 
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In the ABC News link that you sent me, I see people that have worked with Trump at one point and time, but for some odd reason I don't see Trump himself being indicted for anything?
You didn't say "they didn't find anything about President Trump", you said:
(snip) The Mueller report. He didn't find anything. Why? (snip)
I posted a link showing they found quite a bit. If you'd like to move the goal posts now, that's up to you but please don't pretend I didn't show the claim that "nothing was found" was shown to not be true.
tulc(just thought that should be pointed out) :wave:
 
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maybe talk to the Democrats about Epstein. Considering they completely allow any Felon of any kind vote in Bernie Sanders controlled state.

Who here thinks that Felons in prison, should be able to have a say in who is the next President? Not me. These are the murderers and rapists, and yet they have the right to vote!? That's just crazy! That's Democrat Politicians for ya though.

You forgot to add Bill going to fantasy island and taking advantage of underage girls???
Felons have never lost the right to vote in Vermont, and have been able to do so since the state joined the US. Democratic politicians have nothing to do with it.
 
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You forgot to add Bill going to fantasy island and taking advantage of underage girls???

Well, let's take a look...


“I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy,” Mr. Trump told New York magazine in 2002. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”
Jeffrey Epstein Was a ‘Terrific Guy,’ Donald Trump Once Said. Now He’s ‘Not a Fan.’

The woman who accused Donald Trump of raping her at age 13 has dropped her civil suit against the GOP presidential nominee. The suit alleged that the victim, known only as Jane Doe, was raped at a party thrown by sex offender billionaire Jeffrey Epstein. The suit also alleged that Epstein raped her. Earlier this week, Trump’s accuser was scheduled to give a press conference alongside attorney Lisa Bloom, but canceled the event at the last minute. Bloom says the woman was fearful for her life.

The Woman Who Accused Trump of Raping Her at 13 Just Dropped Her Lawsuit

A Timeline of Donald Trump’s Creepiness While He Owned Miss Universe

From walking into a teen dressing room to joking about his obligation to sleep with contestants, Trump’s a storied pageant creep

His position as the pageant’s owner entitled him to that kind of access, Trump explained, seemingly aware that what he was doing made the women uncomfortable. “You know, no men are anywhere. And I’m allowed to go in because I’m the owner of the pageant. And therefore I’m inspecting it… Is everyone OK? You know, they’re standing there with no clothes. And you see these incredible-looking women. And so I sort of get away with things like that,” he said.
A Timeline of Donald Trump's Creepiness While He Owned Miss Universe
 
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Well, let's take a look...


“I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy,” Mr. Trump told New York magazine in 2002. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”
Jeffrey Epstein Was a ‘Terrific Guy,’ Donald Trump Once Said. Now He’s ‘Not a Fan.’

The woman who accused Donald Trump of raping her at age 13 has dropped her civil suit against the GOP presidential nominee. The suit alleged that the victim, known only as Jane Doe, was raped at a party thrown by sex offender billionaire Jeffrey Epstein. The suit also alleged that Epstein raped her. Earlier this week, Trump’s accuser was scheduled to give a press conference alongside attorney Lisa Bloom, but canceled the event at the last minute. Bloom says the woman was fearful for her life.

The Woman Who Accused Trump of Raping Her at 13 Just Dropped Her Lawsuit

A Timeline of Donald Trump’s Creepiness While He Owned Miss Universe

From walking into a teen dressing room to joking about his obligation to sleep with contestants, Trump’s a storied pageant creep

His position as the pageant’s owner entitled him to that kind of access, Trump explained, seemingly aware that what he was doing made the women uncomfortable. “You know, no men are anywhere. And I’m allowed to go in because I’m the owner of the pageant. And therefore I’m inspecting it… Is everyone OK? You know, they’re standing there with no clothes. And you see these incredible-looking women. And so I sort of get away with things like that,” he said.
A Timeline of Donald Trump's Creepiness While He Owned Miss Universe

How can one "own" Miss Universe?

Logically, it would make much more sense to actually send me a site that is moderate, or Republican that would say something similar. Thee problem is that there isn't such a site. Do you think that Judge Kavanaugh really raped that Ford lady? Especially since Democrat Politicians were simply just trying to smear Kavanaugh for political reasons, and the Ford lady testimony wasn't consistent, and she herself said she wasn't sure if he did it or if it was someone else?

It's just like the impeachment of Trump. Yes, some of the people he has worked with have been indicted, but that still doesn't prove that he did anything. There is this "magical" Whistle Blower that nobody seems to know anything about besides the Liberal Democrat Politicians. And the Republicans aren't even allowed to question this person behind closed doors? So, if the Democrat Politicians supposedly want the truth to be told, and an accurate decision to be made, then why would they continue to hide someone?

Long story short, so far any so called evidence you've provided for me, would be like the analogy of saying that Liberal based/made statistics are tainted in any way. For example; the statistics that came out for Trump vs. Hillary. let's go back even before that. They said he had no chance in the primary's vs other Republicans, then once he got to the main show, they said Hillary was going to crush him. They say such things for psychological reasons. They wish to sway peoples votes. Unfortunately, for thee Democrats the American people were smarter than that, and saw threw the Liberal Democrat Media's, and Politicians lying.
 
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I constantly have heard Democrat Politicians, tell We the American people, that President Donald Trump is a threat to the National Security of America.

Well, if that is the case, then why aren't they rushing impeachment?
Obviously, they do not actually think he is a threat. :)

(Further confirmation [as if that was actually needed] that the three years of searching for something on which to base an impeachment was just a political gimmick.)
 
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Unfortunately, for thee Democrats the American people were smarter than that, and saw threw the Liberal Democrat Media's, and Politicians lying.

Actually, most Americans voted for Clinton. Just saying...
 
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(Further confirmation [as if that was actually needed] that the three years of searching for something on which to base an impeachment was just a political gimmick.)

Actually, he got impeached shortly after it was revealed that he withheld congressionally-mandated aid to Ukraine, in order to pressure that government to provided him political help in re-election.

Not as good a story, but it has the virtue of being true.
 
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Actually, he got impeached shortly after it was revealed that he withheld congressionally-mandated aid to Ukraine, in order to pressure that government to provided him political help in re-election.

Not as good a story, but it has the virtue of being true.
Actually it was the State of the Union address that Clinton gave, revealing the advantages of the Agenda 21 in place and soon to be instituted that got the media screaming "Lewinski". Clinton had opened his mouth and gave too many secrets away. The last thing the elite wanted was for the talk to be about the State of Union address where it was revealed.
 
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