Impeachment

[Simon/Rock]

I constantly have heard Democrat Politicians, tell We the American people, that President Donald Trump is a threat to the National Security of America.

Well, if that is the case, then why aren't they rushing impeachment?
Why are they taking their time, at times, and other times, even holding things up?

It's because the whole impeachment within itself is a sham!

The other thing that I'm sure that Americans will continue to have to hear, is the Democrat Politicians telling Americans how the whole Impeachment process, has nothing to do with "identity politics". So they're saying that it has nothing to do with Democrats and Republicans. So far, I wonder how many Democrat Politicians voted for impeachment, and how many voted against it? How many Republicans voted for impeachment, and how many voted against it?

Serious question, but is there a Democrat voter out there, that actually believes that it's not about "identity politics"?

 

[SkyWriting]

I constantly have heard Democrat Politicians, tell We the American people, that President Donald Trump is a threat to the National Security of America.

Well, if that is the case, then why aren't they rushing impeachment?
Why are they taking their time, at times, and other times, even holding things up?

It's because the whole impeachment within itself is a sham!

The other thing that I'm sure that Americans will continue to have to hear, is the Democrat Politicians telling Americans how the whole Impeachment process, has nothing to do with "identity politics". So they're saying that it has nothing to do with Democrats and Republicans. So far, I wonder how many Democrat Politicians voted for impeachment, and how many voted against it? How many Republicans voted for impeachment, and how many voted against it?

Serious question, but is there a Democrat voter out there, that actually believes that it's not about "identity politics"?

Welcome to the forum! Are you here to make friends, enemies, run for office,
or what exactly is your agenda?

 

[t4inted-]

there won’t be an impeachment

Trump is making america great again!

 

[Simon/Rock]

May I ask if you're a moderator here? I'm definitely no politician, and my intentions aren't to make any enemies. I'm merely voicing my opinion. I also enjoy a respectful debate. I like hearing other peoples points of views, even if they don't line up with mine.

 

[Original Happy Camper]

Welcome to the forum! Are you here to make friends, enemies, run for office,
or what exactly is your agenda?

Looks like he has made one enemy already IMHO

 

[A_Thinker]

Trump misused the office of the presidency ... in order to obtain advantage with which to retain the presidency.

This is a violation of the US Constitution ... which squarely places the power to choose our representatives (including the president) ... in the hands of the people.

For this he has been impeached ... and the articles of Impeachment will be sent to the Senate for trial ... at a point where a most thorough hearing of the evidence both for and against can be heard.

 

[Jamesone5]

there won’t be an impeachment

Trump is making america great again!

There won't be an impeachment when the impeachment process already happened? I think you are confusing the impeachment with the Trial in the Senate. Removed from office is what you meant to say

 

[tulc]

(snip)
Serious question, but is there a Democrat voter out there, that actually believes that it's not about "identity politics"?

tulc(since Simon/Rock asked so seriously)

 

[Simon/Rock]

Trump misused the office of the presidency ... in order to obtain advantage with which to retain the presidency.

This is a violation of the US Constitution ... which squarely places the power to choose our representatives (including the president) ... in the hands of the people.

For this he has been impeached ... and the articles of Impeachment will be sent to the Senate for trial ... at a point where a most thorough hearing of the evidence both for and against can be heard.

I'm pretty sure that Hillary and the Democrats were working with foreign governments to corrupt the 2016 election, and after they lost, they simply blamed the Republicans and Trump for it instead. That way, it would become a lot harder for Republicans and Trump to look into their corruption.

I dunno, things like Hillary's emails. Some how "magically" Hillary's computers got washed clean, and all of the would be evidence got destroyed. The main reason Joe Biden isn't going to win the nomination, is because his son would lead the Republicans and Trump to Joe, Hillary, and Obama, in one of the biggest corrupt scandals/exposing traitors to America, that this Country has ever seen! Hillary excepting millions of dollars of foreign contributions to her campaign. Which means other countries expected favors from her if she did win. Is it illegal to except foreign contributions from other countries, when running for President? Hillary did it. Several of those countries were countries that believe in killing someone if they're simply gay. Several of those countries don't believe in Equality for all races, and for women, and yet why would Democrats Politicians, and Hillary take their money then? Sounds pretty corrupt to me.

Trump asked the American people for donations, and also spent like half as much money as Hillary did. Sounds similar to Beto O"rouke vs. Ted Cruz, in Texas.

What do the Democrat Politicians have on Trump to actually impeachment him on, that is actual proof? Not just simply making things up, or wishful thinking on their parts. The Democrat Politicians despise Trump for not being corrupt, and for not acting like they want him to. For actually doing what is right for the American People overall. Is Trump perfect? No. Far from it, but h will easily go down in History as one of the best Presidents ever!

 

[A_Thinker]

I'm pretty sure that Hillary and the Democrats were working with foreign governments to corrupt the 2016 election, and after they lost, they simply blamed the Republicans and Trump for it instead. That way, it would become a lot harder for Republicans and Trump to look into their corruption.

I dunno, things like Hillary's emails. Some how "magically" Hillary's computers got washed clean, and all of the would be evidence got destroyed. The main reason Joe Biden isn't going to win the nomination, is because his son would lead the Republicans and Trump to Joe, Hillary, and Obama, in one of the biggest corrupt scandals/exposing traitors to America, that this Country has ever seen! Hillary excepting millions of dollars of foreign contributions to her campaign. Which means other countries expected favors from her if she did win. Is it illegal to except foreign contributions from other countries, when running for President? Hillary did it. Several of those countries were countries that believe in killing someone if they're simply gay. Several of those countries don't believe in Equality for all races, and for women, and yet why would Democrats Politicians, and Hillary take their money then? Sounds pretty corrupt to me.

Sounds like a lot of assumptions to me ...

 

[A_Thinker]

The Democrat Politicians despise Trump for not being corrupt, and for not acting like they want him to. For actually doing what is right for the American People overall. Is Trump perfect? No. Far from it, but h will easily go down in History as one of the best Presidents ever!

You do realize that Trump has now been impeached for corruption, right ???

 

[Simon/Rock]

Sounds like a lot of assumptions to me ...

"You do realize that Trump has now been impeached for corruption, right ???"

Authenticity is a good thing. The Democrat Politicians copy good ideas from what others say, and use it as if they had originally said it themselves. Democrat Politicians also blame Republicans and Trump for a lot of things that they have done themselves.

For strategic purposes, and Psychological reasons, it is a pretty smart plan, to protect their own tracks or corruption. Luckily for Republicans, because of Trump draining the swamp, more and more Americans are starting to support Trump, because they are starting to realize how fake, phoney, and how little the Liberal Fake News Media and the Democrat Politicians can be trusted.

If Trump was entirely impeached for his so called "corruption" he would already be removed from office. The impeachment hearings, and votes in the house have already passed yes. But now it is up to the Senate.

The Democrats in the house have the majority, and that is why it passed in the House. That is the only reason. Because this is nothing but a Partisan show. Because Trump is taking America away from the Progressive Socialist Communists Democrat Party in this country, and they hate him for it! Progressive Socialism. Or just Progressives. I talked to an old Republican in his 80's at Christmas. I dunno if this is true or not, but he told me that the word Progressive 60+ years ago was really bad politically, because it was related to Communism. And now here we are so many years later, and I guess it's ok to say? maybe some of the older ladies and gentlemen still might not like it, so maybe the Republicans media can say it more on a regular basis!

The Democrats just want Trump out, and they will do anything corrupt or evil, to try and get him out. They could care less of what the American people want. And that is why they don't and haven't worked with the Republicans and Trump on anything! People are going to look at that, after Republicans that control the Senate vote against impeachment. Trump will win reelection, but I am curious about 1 thing. Will at that point, will the Democrat politicians finally actually start working with Trump to do things for America, or simply just keep doing hardly anything for America, and just continue to attack Trump? Because Democrat Politicians have said for years on end about how they care more about Americans, and doing what is right by us, and yet, for the past 4 years, they'd rather attack Trump with no evidence(cough Mueller report), and now this impeachment joke/hoax. My guess, is that it will never end, Trump will continue to help Americans, all while Democrat Politicians keep trying to hold him back, argue with him, and they do hardly nothing for Americans.

I guess it's good for Conservatives, because a lot of the time after 8 years the country switches between Democrat and Republican President, but this time, with the exposing of all of the evil on the far left, I honestly think after Trump is out of office, that another Republican will win the presidency for another 8 years. Hopefully someone like a Ted Cruz. I'd love to see Jim Jordan run for President in 2024. I'd vote for him first, then Ted Cruz 2nd depending on who runs on the Republican ticket.

 

[tulc]

(snip)
but h will easily go down in History as one of the best Presidents ever!

...or he'll simply be known as only one of three President's who got indicted? Also, maybe he'll be known as the President who had 6 people who worked for him tried and convicted?:

Oh! And he paid off a inappropriate content star and a Playboy bunny. You know, just the highlights.
tulc(suspects President Trump's place in history is definitely secure)

 

[Simon/Rock]

...or he'll simply be known as only one of three President's who got indicted? Also, maybe he'll be known as the President who had 6 people who worked for him tried and convicted?:

Oh! And he paid off a inappropriate content star and a Playboy bunny. You know, just the highlights.
tulc(suspects President Trump's place in history is definitely secure)

He isn't perfect. I don't believe in cheating. That was wrong. I'm not justifying him doing that, but let's be realistic...… how many Politicians on either side of the spectrum do you think are faithful to their spouses?

I constantly hear from Democrats about how many people Trump has fired.
Well...…...When Obama stacks the FBI, and other top authorities in this country with Democrats that are in their pockets at the highest level, it not only compromises the security of America, aswell is corrupt at the highest levels of Democrat Politicians, but would make any President that didn't want to be corrupt fire a lot of people. That would only make sense. And then there is also if moderate, or Liberal Republicans have anyone already in there that are simply Democrats posing as Republicans ultimately, that should, and did need to be fired.

What were those 6 people supposedly tried and convicted for?
From my understanding the Democrat Politicians entrapped General Flynn, in a very disgraceful, and immoral manner. It's also "ironic" how CNN had a magic "feeling" to know when to show up at Roger Stones house when he was getting arrested? Does it really take how many FBI agents to arrest an old guy? What was it like 15-25 or something? Yeah! That's not politically related, nor corrupt in any way.

Did Adam Shift ever let the Republicans talk to the supposed whistle blower? Who is this magical person, and why aren't the Republicans allowed to question him or her, and yet the Democrat Politicians get to?

If the Democrat Politicians really wanted a fair trial, and the truth to be told, why wouldn't they want the Republicans to have all of the information necessary to make an accurate decision about impeachment? and let the Republican's interview this so called Whistleblower?

It's because they're lying. and full of it.
You know one of the best things about all of this? is that because the Democrat Politicians keep chasing down Trump. He and the Republican's are easily going to take back the House. Once that happens, it won't matter how much the Democrat Liberal Fake News Media preaches, and lies, and won't matter about their Socialist Progressive bosses fight and argue against Trump. Trump will then be able to get things done faster, more accurate, and better this country even more. Without the Democrats holding him back.

 

[tulc]

(snip)
He and the Republican's are easily going to take back the House. Once that happens, it won't matter how much the Democrat Liberal Fake News Media preaches, and lies, and won't matter about their Socialist Progressive bosses fight and argue against Trump. Trump will then be able to get things done faster, more accurate, and better this country even more. Without the Democrats holding him back.

Do you remember when President Trump took office? The Republicans had control of the House and the Senate? Do you remember how much got accomplished? Because the only thing I remember getting done was a great big tax cut for the top 1%. Not the wall he swore Mexico would pay for, not the replacing of Obamacare by a cheaper healthcare plan and on and on...the only thing they did was make sure President Trump and his friends would have a bigger bottom line. But I do understand why his supporters like to pretend "things will be better if no one had a different opinion then President Trumps opinions." I mean, everyone pointed out how completely unfit he was to be President of the U.S. and now he's been impeached for corruption. But the fault is because all those people who have a different opinions from him just wont let him do all those things what he wants with our country.
tulc(guesses that means President Trump is the real victim here?)

 

[A_Thinker]

He isn't perfect. I don't believe in cheating. That was wrong. I'm not justifying him doing that, but let's be realistic...… how many Politicians on either side of the spectrum do you think are faithful to their spouses?

He is the consummate cheater. He cheats on his wives. He cheats his business suppliers out of their contracted payment, and he cheats in his election campaigns.

That is why he will forever be known as one of (3) presidents wno were impeached by the House of the Representatives of the American people.

And if the American people have as high a regard for integrity as I have always believed that they had, ... they will do the work of the Senate for them ... and vote out this grifter president, and all of his grifter friends and associates, including Nunes, Jordan, Collins, as well as a host of others.

If right prevails in 2020, then by this time next year, our latest national nightmare will nearly be over.

 

[jgarden]

I constantly have heard Democrat Politicians, tell We the American people, that President Donald Trump is a threat to the National Security of America.

Well, if that is the case, then why aren't they rushing impeachment?
Why are they taking their time, at times, and other times, even holding things up?

It's because the whole impeachment within itself is a sham!

The other thing that I'm sure that Americans will continue to have to hear, is the Democrat Politicians telling Americans how the whole Impeachment process, has nothing to do with "identity politics". So they're saying that it has nothing to do with Democrats and Republicans. So far, I wonder how many Democrat Politicians voted for impeachment, and how many voted against it? How many Republicans voted for impeachment, and how many voted against it?

Serious question, but is there a Democrat voter out there, that actually believes that it's not about "identity politics"?

Given that over 60% of Americans want a real trial with witnesses instead of the Republican majority in the Senate going through the motions, Speaker Pelosi has made a a calculation that by withholding the articles of impeachment it will provide time for voters to lobby their GOP Senators, particularly those in "purple" wihose seats could be at risk in 2020!

It should not be overlooked that McConnell's first priority is to retain his Republican majority in the Senate, getting Trump re=elected! is a distant second

If 3 or 4 GOP Senators inform McConnell that by not providing a real trial with witnesses they risk losing their seats, he will throw Trump "under the bus" without giving it a second thought!

 

[Simon/Rock]

Given that over 60% of Americans want a real trial with witnesses instead of the Republican majority in the Senate going through the motions, Speaker Pelosi has made a a calculation that by withholding the articles of impeachment it will provide time for voters to lobby their GOP Senators, particularly those in "purple" wihose seats could be at risk in 2020!

It should not be overlooked that McConnell's first priority is to retain his Republican majority in the Senate, getting Trump re=elected! is a distant second

If 3 or 4 GOP Senators inform McConnell that by not providing a real trial with witnesses they risk losing their seats, he will throw Trump "under the bus" without giving it a second thought!

Or maybe, just maybe the Democrat Politicians don't really think that President Trump is a threat to national security, but merely a threat to the Democratic Politicians and their Progressive Communist ways?

 

[Simon/Rock]

He is the consummate cheater. He cheats on his wives. He cheats his business suppliers out of their contracted payment, and he cheats in his election campaigns.

That is why he will forever be known as one of (3) presidents wno were impeached by the House of the Representatives of the American people.

And if the American people have as high a regard for integrity as I have always believed that they had, ... they will do the work of the Senate for them ... and vote out this grifter president, and all of his grifter friends and associates, including Nunes, Jordan, Collins, as well as a host of others.

If right prevails in 2020, then by this time next year, our latest national nightmare will nearly be over.

To bad the Democrat Politicians had Jeffrey Epstein killed. If he would have sang about all of the Politicians he had dirt on, we'd clean the swamp up real fast!

So you don't think Slick Willy Clinton is worst then Trump?

I forgot, my bad. He only flew over fantasy island(underaged girls), but never "landed".
Just like he never had sex with Monica Lewinsky.

Notice the Fake News Liberal Media clapping for the Evil Bill Clinton
at the end.

 

[tulc]

(snip)

It's always interesting when people can't actually defend President Trump so they have to bring up other people to try and distract from that fact. But considering how little President Trump gives his supporters to work with it's not really surprising they have to resort to that so often.
tulc(is sorry President Trump is all they have to work with)