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Christianity germinated in Israel, and the apostle Paul travelled west to Ephesus, Corinth and Rome to plant the early churches. Gradually Christianity spread to rest of medieval Europe, and later, the Reformation and other significant movements took place.

How is Christianity in Europe today? I live in Singapore, and consistently hear from native European expats that most people in Europe do not believe or go to church. Why has it come to this?
 
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Christianity germinated in Israel, and the apostle Paul travelled west to Ephesus, Corinth and Rome to plant the early churches. Gradually Christianity spread to rest of medieval Europe, and later, the Reformation and other significant movements took place.

How is Christianity today? I live in Singapore, and consistently hear from native Europeans that most people in Europe do not believe or go to church. Why has it come to this?
Much of the decline is in the Anglican and Catholic denominations. Recent surveys show that protestant churches are staying fairly stable. Having been forced to attend an Anglican church for 3 years, I can understand why people are deserting it. Another force is immigration. Many if not most, migrants are not Christians. I went back to England 3 years ago. There are mosques everywhere. I'd never seen one in England when my family emigrated in 1964.
 
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Christianity germinated in Israel, and the apostle Paul travelled west to Ephesus, Corinth and Rome to plant the early churches. Gradually Christianity spread to rest of medieval Europe, and later, the Reformation and other significant movements took place.

How is Christianity today? I live in Singapore, and consistently hear from native Europeans that most people in Europe do not believe or go to church. Why has it come to this?
We learn from our Savior and Teacher in Matthew 7:24-27 who's faith will endure, and why, and who's faith will collapse, and why. Gradually as you get older, you start to realize these words are for real. It really works as Christ says. It's not just a bonus virtue (to do as He commands), but actually Life or Death.
 
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Much of the decline is in the Anglican and Catholic denominations. Recent surveys show that protestant churches are staying fairly stable. Having been forced to attend an Anglican church for 3 years, I can understand why people are deserting it. Another force is immigration. Many if not most, migrants are not Christians. I went back to England 3 years ago. There are mosques everywhere. I'd never seen one in England when my family emigrated in 1964.

I do know some Brits at bible study group. The founder of Alpha, a Christian workshop which has been attended by millions worldwide, is Nick Gumbey from UK.

What about people from other parts of Europe? How is the state of the churches in other countries?
 
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We learn from our Savior and Teacher in Matthew 7:24-27 who's faith will endure, and why, and who's faith will collapse, and why. Gradually as you get older, you start to realize these words are for real. It really works as Christ says. It's not just a bonus virtue (to do as He commands), but actually Life or Death.

It is almost like familiarity breed contempt - - or boredom. After almost 2000 years of Christianity, people become indiferent.
 
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I do know some Brits at bible study group. The founder of Alpha, a Christian workshop which has been attended by millions worldwide, is Nick Gumbey from UK.

What about people from other parts of Europe? How is the state of the churches in other countries?
Bayless Conley is an evangelist, pastor of Cottonwood Church Ca. He's done a lot of preaching in Europe. The reason is simple. The local church is dead.

Millions have attended alpha courses, read the books, completed the program. It means little if they do not get born again. Billy Graham said that he would be delighted if 5% of those who came forward were in reality born again.The parable of the sower is 100% applicable today.
 
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Why has it come to this?

Faith is a personal relationship with God through Jesus. It can be taught, but has to be accepted by each person themselves.

There is a long history of Christianity florishing and dying in England and in europe.
Currently we are in a period of decline caused by the fall out from two horrific world wars and the acceptance of God dening ideas like evolution.

What is to be done?

Well candles shine brighter in the dark.

Christians need to start living there faith and accepting the consquences of doing so.
 
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How is Christianity in Europe today? I live in Singapore, and consistently hear from native European expats that most people in Europe do not believe or go to church. Why has it come to this?

Hello Roman. IN my experience only a tiny % of people are born again believers. Perhaps it ties in with what we are to expect in these End Times just before the return of the Lord. A great apostacy and the rise of a re-born, pagan Roman Empire. It certainly looks plausible now.

I heard two speakers on this subject of UK church decline and they made two made interesting speculations:

The first, Ken Ham from Answers in Genesis blamed compromise on evolution for the downward trajectory of the church, saying that as soon as the church accepted evolution in some shape or form, theistic evolution, old earth creation, even trying to have no stance on it at all, as soon as the church moved from the biblical foundation it was on a four generation staged decline. The first generation to compromise would experience some sort of superficial relief, but the knocking away of the biblical foundations would cause decline obvious in generation 2. Eventually the youth would fall away because they could see that their elders didn't really believe it. 'It doesn't matter what the bible says, trust Jesus anyway and you'll feel better', to paraphrase what he said. Jesus quoted from Genesis but 'the church' would look on it as an Aesop's fable.

The second who's name currently escapes me blamed World War 1. Much of the church were beating the drum for this war, even on war memorials today it says 'For the Glory of God'. Every family lost at least one person, the carnage was hideous, many families turned away from the church at this point. In addition spiritualism and the occult rapidly became more popular as grieving parents tried to contact their boys. Whatever the 'spirits' told grieving parents it certainly wasn't the gospel of Jesus Christ.

I don't know if these two scenarios are true, they could be.

God Bless :)
 
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I am from Scandinavia. A long journey with God, but really came to him when I was living in Denmark. Believing and following, gifted with prophetic gifts, healing and a strong faith with joy and love. I was naive I thought I would find at least SOME in the churches that were like that and born again. I only found a few. A lot of dead no life, no spirit. A lot of bad treatment. Alone for the most part. I met only few that seemed on the same page. Always seemed to me that there were more born again christians among the american populations and elsewhere in the world. Coming to Uk so far same story. It is very dissapointing.
 
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Orthodox Christianity in Britain is growing.


Same in Ireland!

 
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Orthodox Christianity in Britain is growing.

Same in Ireland!
Praise God!

I was in Protestant churches for a while, but am so grateful the Spirit lead me to Orthodoxy.
 
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Christianity germinated in Israel, and the apostle Paul travelled west to Ephesus, Corinth and Rome to plant the early churches. Gradually Christianity spread to rest of medieval Europe, and later, the Reformation and other significant movements took place.

How is Christianity in Europe today? I live in Singapore, and consistently hear from native European expats that most people in Europe do not believe or go to church. Why has it come to this?

Ironically, Europe is doing the work of Jesus more than the rest of the world even if they seem to have abandoned the faith.

Their nations serve the poor and consequently in some member nations, poverty is absent among citizens.

In many other nations, they serve the rich at the cost of the poor and poverty and corruption is endemic.

If you read Matthew 25:31-46, it would appear that Europe might be in good standing with the Lord than nations who may appear very devout in the Christian religion but showing little care to the poor and even supporting the very corrupt systems oppressing the poor.
 
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Orthodox Christianity in Britain is growing.


Same in Ireland!

thanks to the great work all the exorcists do and laymen to evangelise and explain things. we owe all of you a lot
 
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I like that you mention exorcism. Too many Christians shy away from the Spiritual battle at hand, it's one thing to sow seeds, but they need to land on fertile soil.

I'm hearing youtube mentioned a lot. And the likes of Oleksandr Usyk and Novak Djokovic.
 
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I like that you mention exorcism. Too many Christians shy away from the Spiritual battle at hand, it's one thing to sow seeds, but they need to land on fertile soil.

I'm hearing youtube mentioned a lot. And the likes of Oleksandr Usyk and Novak Djokovic.
Thank you. Never heard about them are they in english?
I mean, it is clear, the bible talk about it half the bible is about it and Jesus said to us to do it. There really is no problem the only problem is if we have opened doors or worse. we are in the battle no matter if we want to or not, and many things might be about that when we could ask God for help about it and not knowing we think it is just life.
but.. God say the evil goes around like a lion....
The exorcists say there are many like billions of demons out there. A third (as of the fall) approx the amount of size of Texas. That is a lot. And there comes more and more attacks and we live in a pagan society. They are doing the same things. And the church.. we have to come back from laodieka. especially in the west. People think no demons or so forth. well the exorcists have about 2500 cases a year and it increases. They say mainly because of the occult, and sexual sins are no 2. Then drugs. For some, it only takes one time and they get issues. Others, God is gracious. but, it is a door. And evil just wait on the door an invitation.
 
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Oleksandr Usyk is a Ukrainian boxer, Novak Djokovic is a Serbian tennis player - both highly successful sportsmen, and great witnesses of their faith. Praise God.

With my own journey back to Christ, I was very interested in Deliverance mission for a while. I agree with all you say about that, though didn’t know some of the numbers you quote, so thanks for that :)

It was very frustrating at the time that the entire lens I saw my new-found Christian faith through was something that my minister wouldn't even acknowledge, trying to guide me onto "safer" subjects. I wanted just to shake the Church and ask it to wake up. Then one day I found a church that shook me, in a good way.

I pray you'll find your church that shakes you also. God bless.
 
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Oleksandr Usyk is a Ukrainian boxer, Novak Djokovic is a Serbian tennis player - both highly successful sportsmen, and great witnesses of their faith. Praise God.

With my own journey back to Christ, I was very interested in Deliverance mission for a while. I agree with all you say about that, though didn’t know some of the numbers you quote, so thanks for that :)

It was very frustrating at the time that the entire lens I saw my new-found Christian faith through was something that my minister wouldn't even acknowledge, trying to guide me onto "safer" subjects. I wanted just to shake the Church and ask it to wake up. Then one day I found a church that shook me, in a good way.

I pray you'll find your church that shakes you also. God bless.
I like the baltic people they are very good people. real friends. ride or die people.
and not afraid to stand up either.
yeah I thought the same about church, I was like, but I acted on what the bible say, and it happened! I hope to find the same. I can`t start my own or something as we have to respect the order. Otherwise I would have. safer objects [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] do they not realise if they don`t start to do it they will not be safe anyway. the bible calls us to take the armour up. it is clear talk. we are in the battle wether we want to or not. do we want the power of God or not. you do, when you live a holy life and have a relationship. we are called to serve and minister. people are suffering. they need us. we cannot afford to be asleep.
 
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It reminds of this idea, which appears in many ways, that if the enemy leaves us alone it's because we aren't a threat to him. Which means we are comfortable in, and part of, his world.
May we not be counted among those who say "Lord, Lord", but He doesn't know us.
 
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It reminds of this idea, which appears in many ways, that if the enemy leaves us alone it's because we aren't a threat to him. Which means we are comfortable in, and part of, his world.
May we not be counted among those who say "Lord, Lord", but He doesn't know us.
That's very true. If we are living holy lives close to God though easier to get rid of him. But then we have situation like job, where God uses evil for higher purpose
 
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