Again, the scripture was written long before the gentiles took over.
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Again, what was determined to be scripture was done by the Gentile Christians.
And if you want to build an empire built upon God you need the works that not only described religion building but also an empire to come.
You make outrageous statement with presenting any evidence. I can present evidence that the Gentile Church was very concerned about the empire to come.
...I believe in one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church.
I confess one Baptism for the forgiveness of sins
and I look forward to the resurrection of the dead
and the life of the world to come. Amen.
Nicene Creed 325 AD
And at or in connection with that judgment the following events shall come to pass, as we have learned: Elias the Tishbite shall come; the Jews shall believe; Antichrist shall persecute; Christ shall judge; the dead shall rise; the good and the wicked shall be separated;
City of God, Chapter 30 - Augustine (early 5th century AD)
When
Christ shall come to judge He will appear in the form of
glory, on account of the authority becoming a judge. Now it pertains to the dignity of judicial power to have certain signs that induce people to reverence and subjection: and consequently many signs will precede the advent of
Christ when He shall come to judgment, in order that the hearts of
men be brought to subjection to the coming judge, and be prepared for the judgment, being forewarned by those signs.
Summa Theologiae - Thomas Aquinas (written 1265–1274)
When the soul has once entered into the happy kingdom of God, “there will be nothing to molest it. God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and death shall be no more, not mourning, nor crying, nor sorrow shall be any more; for the former things are passed away... Oh! how much more beautiful the city of paradise! how splendid the appearance of these citizens, who are all clothed in royal robes; for, as St. Augustine says, they are all kings.
On Preparation for Death - Alphonsus Liguori (lived 1696–1787)
The Nicene was written after the time that you wrote that the Church became Gentile and lost the vision of the empire to come. And yet that Creed says that we should look forward to the life to come. Augustine, Aquinas, and Liguori are Doctors of the Church. They all wrote of the coming kingdom. Go into a traditional Catholic Church and you see murals of the angels and saints praising God in heaven. If there is one thing that can be said about the Church, it is very other-worldly.
Yes and that was based upon the truth from God, not the beliefs and truths (doctrines and theology) of man. Two different definitions of church. Remember the conversation Jesus had with Peter and the Apostles about that fact?
No, I do not remember Jesus talking about two definition of the church. Could you provide the reference?
Paul said 'the truth', you say 'truth'. Big difference. One refers to 'the truth' of God, yours sounds more like 'truth' of a denominational church, am I right?.
You are so wrong. You are reading far too much into what I wrote. There was no deliberate reason I wrote "truth" instead of "the truth". I just forgot to insert the definite article. I was not thinking of a truth of a denominational church.
And Paul's church was the people who lived the truth from God, His two commandments. It was not an institution that claimed leadership. Paul was right. He taught the Gospel of the Kingdom as verified in Acts. The religion broadsided Jesus' Gospel of the Kingdom/governance of God, and built it's own empire on the same foundation as the Roman Empire. It accepted what Jesus had turned down in the desert.
You are reading far too much into 1 Timothy 3:15, just as you read too much in my ommission of a definite article in writing "truth". Paul did not write "the church, which consists of people who lived the truth". He wrote "the church, which is the pillar and foundation of the truth".
Of course they did.. and they were wrong. Two wrongs don't make a right.
That is nothing but a cliche. You have been arguing that the Church lost its vision of the spiritual kingdom of God when it went from being Jewish to Gentile. But now you admit that the Jews did not have the vision of the spiritual, either. And your comeback is that two wrongs don't make a right????
No, I'm advocating pre-Gentile interference. The time and church of the Way.. the example set by Jesus. A way of life, not subordination to yet another hierarchical institution with it's rules and customs and faux human authority that even had it's own army.
I am starting to realize how radical you are. You do sound like you are advocating something that sounds like a form of the New Age Movement.
I noticed that you avoided my sex question. I wanted to see how you feel about the institution of marriage. Do you believe in free love or do you believe that we should get married by a priest or a minister before we engage in sex? Would getting married by a clergyman before having sex a subordination to a hierarchical institution with its rules and customs? Why will you not give a straight answer to this question?
Also, since you do not believe in subordinating a hierarchical institution with it's rules and customs, does that mean that you do not go to church? It sure sounds like it. It sounds like you believe that all a person needs to do is love. Please give me a straightforward answer. Do you go to church every week?