I have a question

[Emmylouwho]

I would say no as long as you do it very respectfully. For instance at one employee meeting we were surprised (or ambushed depending on how you look at it) with a lecture on how to handle gay people and since I disagreed I politely left the first half of the meeting. My boss called me in to her office and I explained my objection and the fact that our job is to tutor and nothing more which she agreed with but I still needed to go to the training (she literally told me that physically I had to be there, but not mentally). God intervened, the person kept rescheduling the training and one day canceled it all together and I never had to go.

I stood up for what I believed even though it caused me huge anxiety and could of cost me my job but God saw me through it and I still have my job. If you (general you, not specific you) stands up for something like belief than you must be willing to endure the consequences like in my example I had to confront the fact I could have been fired.

How does your company want you to “handle” gay people? Did they want you to treat them differently from straight folk?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

"A person must to true to the integrity of his own mind." -Frank Lloyd Wright.

 

[AlexDTX]

I know the bible says "Honor and your father and mother" and basically to submit to higher authority (Boss at work, a teacher at school) But is it wrong to question something they say, stand up for yourself, if you know its wrong?

What does the Hebrew word mean?

Exo 20:12 Honour H3513 (H853) thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.

According to Strong's 3513:

kâbad kâbêd
kaw-bad, kaw-bade'
A primitive root; to be heavy, that is, in a bad sense (burdensome, severe, dull) or in a good sense (numerous, rich, honorable);
causatively to make weighty (in the same two senses): -

It seems, from this definition, it mean to take seriously. Think about what they say and do. But that does not mean obedience, per se. If after serious consideration you realize they are wrong, you do not have to obey them in that matter.

 

[JacksBratt]

I know the bible says "Honor and your father and mother" and basically to submit to higher authority (Boss at work, a teacher at school) But is it wrong to question something they say, stand up for yourself, if you know its wrong?

You don't ever have to obey or submit or be subordinate to anyone that tells you to sin.

 

[JacksBratt]

"A person must to true to the integrity of his own mind." -Frank Lloyd Wright.

This sounds good.. until you unpack it... What if a pedophile descides, in their own mind, that it's OK?

No, I disagree... A person must be true to the biblical moral standards.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

This sounds good.. until you unpack it... What if a pedophile descides, in their own mind, that it's OK?

I think that would be a breakdown of integrity.

 

[JacksBratt]

I think that would be a breakdown of integrity.

It would be a breakdown of integrity of the collective morals of society and biblical views.

However, the quote of Frank Lloyd Wright states "integrity of his own mind".

Start going down that path and it's a very slippery slope.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

It would be a breakdown of integrity of the collective morals of society and biblical views.

However, the quote of Frank Lloyd Wright states "integrity of his own mind".

Start going down that path and it's a very slippery slope.

It's just another way of saying 'be true to yourself'; act on behalf of your own welfare.

 

[Ahermit]

A. You seem to have missed the point.

B. You need to lighten up or you may end up in the untrue category.

C. You may want to reread what you wrote here a few times:

The point is to stand up for what is true instead of standing up for yourself. The self will always fall down in face of truth.
It is a question of reference point. Is one referencing life from Jesus Christ or from one's own ego-self. There is a difference between 'self' and 'Self'; the first is not true, the Self is true, for it abides with the Spirit of Truth.

 

[JacksBratt]

It's just another way of saying 'be true to yourself'; act on behalf of your own welfare.

I guess you could put it that way. However, I still don't think that this mantra.. is biblical.
Being true to myself... is like "look out for number one".... I don't hold to that.
Acting on the behalf of my own welfare, again, seems to put me first.. I don't believe that is what Christ taught.

 

[topher694]

The point is to stand up for what is true instead of standing up for yourself. The self will always fall down in face of truth.
It is a question of reference point. Is one referencing life from Jesus Christ or from one's own ego-self. There is a difference between 'self' and 'Self'; the first is not true, the Self is true, for it abides with the Spirit of Truth.

I meant you missed the point I was trying to make. Unless you think you know what I meant better than I do, in which case you might have a problem of 'self'.

 

[charsan]

How does your company want you to “handle” gay people? Did they want you to treat them differently from straight folk?

Yes that's what was being promoted as if they were more special, it's a college so they are already predisposed to being liberal.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

I know the bible says "Honor and your father and mother" and basically to submit to higher authority (Boss at work, a teacher at school) But is it wrong to question something they say, stand up for yourself, if you know its wrong?

Most of the time, yes.

 

[Emmylouwho]

Yes that's what was being promoted as if they were more special, it's a college so they are already predisposed to being liberal.

What sort of preferential treatment do they get?

 

[charsan]

What sort of preferential treatment do they get?

Right now none except the college is having pride week this week. yuck.

 

[Ahermit]

Stand up for yourself, yes...

If you stand for your-self, than you don't stand for Self. See Matthew 10:39

And if you stand for what is true in a manner that is untrue what was once true becomes untrue and dishonor will ensue.

If you stand for what is true, then how can you be untrue. See Matthew 6:24

A. You seem to have missed the point.
B. You need to lighten up or you may end up in the untrue category.
C. You may want to reread what you wrote here a few times:

I meant you missed the point I was trying to make. Unless you think you know what I meant better than I do, in which case you might have a problem of 'self'.

Word of God (Truth) goes deeper than anyone can know. See Hebrews 4:12
I did not miss your point, I just went deeper.

 

[topher694]

If you stand for your-self, than you don't stand for Self. See Matthew 10:39

If you stand for what is true, then how can you be untrue. See Matthew 6:24


Word of God (Truth) goes deeper than anyone can know. See Hebrews 4:12
I did not miss your point, I just went deeper.

You've got no idea what your talking about. You didn't go deeper you went to what is untrue. I'll leave it at that since this is an advice forum and not a debate forum and this has already probably gone further than it should.

 

[FutureAndAHope]

I know the bible says "Honor and your father and mother" and basically to submit to higher authority (Boss at work, a teacher at school) But is it wrong to question something they say, stand up for yourself, if you know its wrong?

It is the way that it is said that matters. The bible says "If we have a disagreement with some one, we are to speak to them privately", this means that we should not be confrontational, but rather humble in our attitude when correcting. The bible also tells us when correcting false teaching, but you could apply this to any situation, to do it "in a spirit of gentleness". If we can't gently correct some one then we should just let it slide. There was one example of public correction in the bible, but this was due to the fact that it involved the whole church, every one needed to be made aware. Generally however correction should be private, gentle, or ignored.

 

[Emmylouwho]

Right now none except the college is having pride week this week. yuck.

So you had to attend a meeting whereby you were instructed to give them preferential treatment, but the they don't get any special treatment anyway?

 

[charsan]

So you had to attend a meeting whereby you were instructed to give them preferential treatment, but the they don't get any special treatment anyway?

That's about the size of it