Do we vote, and for whom?

[CharismaticLady]

But the republicans don't uphold Christian values. They are the party of money and greed, both distinctly un-Bibical positions. As much as Bill Maher is a nut case, he gets it right on that...

The #1 issue is abortion. Are you for or against it?

 

[CharismaticLady]

I do not have a problem with this. But... I could not vote for the Mormon, Mitt Romney.

Watch the Jim Bakker show. He has many prophets on their, including Jonathan Cahn who gets into politics.

 

[CharismaticLady]

Vote against mammom-grubbing and you then vote for liberal causes like abdication of personal responsibility and any-sex you want to be thinking.

I'm just not understanding what you are trying to say, or which party you are talking about. And especially what you stand for.

 

[Blade]

The antichrist spirit we know has been here since Christ went up TO COME AGAIN HELLO! And we know not ALL nations will be on board with Him. What is FAITH? As our Father IS.. calls those things that be not as though they were. This is not ALL leading up to some thing EVIL! But something awesome..wonderful. Ask Him He has never ever lost.

"republicans don't uphold Christian values". Guessing your talking as a whole. Over 2 thousand years ago Christ stood alone look at it .. Him now. All Satan can do is lie. This is the greatest time to be alive!

 

[Ken Rank]

That goes along with what another poster said, that there are still issues to address along the way. Abortion being one of them. But again, can we really sway the path we are on? We vote in Trump as the lesser evil over Hillary. Many seem to think he's the anointed one. BUT - his is the group that steals from the poor and middle to enrich his already rich buddies. His is the group that, when faced with pleas from the sick, buys up the companies that make medicines and jacks the prices up. The face of the conservative movement isn't Jesus, it's Martin Shkreli. Do we empower greed and selfishness just to over rule abortion?

He isn't the anointed one but he has done more good than the media will ever relay to the masses. Beyond that... the Kingdom isn't here in the physical sense, yet. So, until it is, we simply have to do the best we can under the conditions we are in.

Blessings Ricky.

 

[Ken Rank]

Do we empower greed and selfishness just to over rule abortion?

I'll take a narcissist over murder, yes. I would rather vote for a guy that has a chance to repent, then to take the life of somebody that will never know the embrace of a loving parent. But that is me, it doesn't have to be you... and on this one, I am not budging.

Blessings.
Ken

 

[renniks]

1,000 years from now would be closer to the beginning of the new heaven and new earth. Of course every end has a new beginning and every beginning follows the end of something.

I meant the end of the current version of this world, of course.

 

[Yarddog]

We were told thousands of years ago where the world would end up - in the hands of the antichrist. Each successive world leader is but a stepping stone towards that end. Seeing as there is no way to vote ourselves off this path (since the path has been set according to the Word of God), does it make sense to vote at all any more?

Yes it does. No one knows when Jesus will return so it is important to vote for the candidate which you feel best agrees with your idea of what Your country needs.

 

[carp614]

This is the way I have had to change my view of politics to make it so that voting still makes sense:

Voting for President in particular and for political office in general is about looking for and voting for the least worst candidate. One must accept from the outset that no candidate will live up to what they say, much less what we as voters actually want and that is ok because the alternatives all destroy or dramatically diminish individual liberty.

Take Trump for example. He is just...awful. But he isn't Hillary and he has appointed supreme court justices that at least appear to be conservative. So as far as I'm concerned he did what I voted him into office to do.
I don't think I will vote for him again though. But I will vote, because this is my country and voting is my right.

 

[joshua 1 9]

I meant the end of the current version of this world, of course.

We are very close to the end of the Church age. Then we will enter into the Kingdom age. Some people believe we are already in the Kingdom age. When we will rule and reign with Christ for 1,000 years.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Is voting for the lesser evil still not a vote for evil?

We are not to trust in our-self, we are to trust in the Holy Spirit of God to guide us.

 

[Ricky M]

The #1 issue is abortion. Are you for or against it?

I'm against - but you can't be a single-issue voter

The party that fights abortion is also the party that steals from the poor (and middle) and gives to the rich.

Are you for or against that?

 

[Ricky M]

I'm just not understanding what you are trying to say, or which party you are talking about. And especially what you stand for.

I'm saying that both republican and democratic agendas, though seemingly so opposite, arise from the same source and reach the same destination. And that we ought not to support either one of them.

 

[Ricky M]

"republicans don't uphold Christian values". Guessing your talking as a whole.

Yes, I'm talking about their ruling echelon. I know there are many good faithful Christians in either party's memberships who don't support the extreme agendas of the body politic.

But those extreme agendas are what rule the day.

Yes these are exciting times we live in indeed. It's time to get out, of both sides, and prepare for what is now upon us.

 

[Ricky M]

He isn't the anointed one but he has done more good than the media will ever relay to the masses. Beyond that... the Kingdom isn't here in the physical sense, yet. So, until it is, we simply have to do the best we can under the conditions we are in.

Blessings Ricky.

At some point doing the best we can means abandoning the greater AND lesser evils.

 

[Ricky M]

I'll take a narcissist over murder, yes. I would rather vote for a guy that has a chance to repent, then to take the life of somebody that will never know the embrace of a loving parent. But that is me, it doesn't have to be you... and on this one, I am not budging.

Blessings.
Ken

Nor would I ask you to

Yes I guess bringing a baby into poverty is a step above murdering the poor kid, I'll give you that.

 

[Ricky M]

Voting for President in particular and for political office in general is about looking for and voting for the least worst candidate.

No. No, no, no no no no no. That's like saying you'll support the guy who adulters with women because he's not as bad as the guy who adulters with men. They are BOTH wrong, they are BOTH against God, and the time has come to stop voting for the lesser evil.

 

[Ricky M]

We are very close to the end of the Church age. .

Oh, we're there.

 

[Ricky M]

We are not to trust in our-self, we are to trust in the Holy Spirit of God to guide us.

But if the Holy Spirit said, 'don't vote for either side' would we really hear and/or listen?

 

[Albion]

No. No, no, no no no no no. That's like saying you'll support the guy who adulters with women because he's not as bad as the guy who adulters with men. They are BOTH wrong, they are BOTH against God, and the time has come to stop voting for the lesser evil.

It really depends on the "evil" we are talking about. If, for instance, one candidate is a Socialist and the other one is a moderate, there are a host of reasons to vote for the moderate, even if some of his proposals don't find favor with you.