ajcarey
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I’m not convinced the prophecies that allegedly came true are set in stone and the ones that didn’t are “conditional.” Prophecies are only relevant if they are falsifiable. How could they be falsified if we just say they don’t apply anymore? I don’t see where Isaiah says these only apply if Israel meets certain conditions of righteousness. This seems like your jumping through hoops but please enlighten me if you think I misunderstood.
No I will not admit that I’m bias against the Bible lol. I have no objection to the way Christians live and think. I live and think the same way. I don’t want to sound silly but I’ve never even said one curse word or had a single drop of alcohol my whole life. I don’t even think those things are necessarily sins but I took my religion so seriously that I avoided them to be sure. Even after considering myself an atheist for the past several months I haven’t done anything that a Christian could legitimately consider a sin. In fact it would’ve been in my financial and relational interest to stay, but I just don’t find the evidence convincing.
Look at how God said in the closing verse of Malachi that He would come and smite the earth with a curse if they heeded not Elijah the Prophet whom He would send. Look at what the Messiah's purpose in the previous chapter in Malachi 3:1-6 was. "
Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the Lord of hosts. 2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap: 3 And he shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver: and he shall purify the sons of Levi, and purge them as gold and silver, that they may offer unto the Lord an offering in righteousness. 4 Then shall the offering of Judah and Jerusalem be pleasant unto the Lord, as in the days of old, and as in former years. 5 And I will come near to you to judgment; and I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers, and against the adulterers, and against false swearers, and against those that oppress the hireling in his wages, the widow, and the fatherless, and that turn aside the stranger from his right, and fear not me, saith the Lord of hosts. 6 For I am the Lord, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed."
Obviously there would be coming judgment for those who heeded not the Messiah and the messenger sent before Him. God never makes a promise to relieve people from future obedience and continued obedience. That would be essentially Satanism, though many churches teach consistent with that.
Did I not see that you said somewhere in this thread that you said you have a conflict with the morality taught in the Old Testament? (honest question, I thought I saw you say that but there's too much here to re-read the entire thread to check for myself so I'm just asking you directly). If so, the morality of the Old Testament IS the morality of Christianity since Jesus said that He came not to destroy the law, but to fulfill it; and He taught the proper application of the law and the prophets (Matthew 5:17-18, Matthew 7:12, etc). Judeo-Christian morality goes far beyond not cursing and being honest with your finances; it calls for laying down your life to uphold and stand for the judgments of the Word of God. You can be moral before men and be utterly unrighteous before God by thinking you know better than His law and/or refusing to not love your life to the death to stand for His truth.
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