How do you feel about climate change? Is it affecting our world negatively?

[timothyu]

Overall, older people tend to deny climate change and younger folk tend to accept it.

They obviously didn't get out enough or were trapped in cities for most of their lives. A lifetime out on the plains will do wonders for the observation of nature and life and the changes regardless of cause are noticeable. The expanse may also have something to do with their ability to see further than most, physically and mentally.

 

[timothyu]

Canada is probably feeling the effects of climate change more strongly than the USA, especially in northern Canada.

I read somewhere that climate change in Canada is twice the rate of other countries. So Canadians see the direct result of climate change first hand.

Yes, most of China's soot falls on us and speeds up melting.

 

[grasping the after wind]

. I’ve got a biology degree so I’m not saying this on faith nor am I relying on other scientifically illiterate opinions . I can see some of it . Direct observation! I do understand that making unverifiable claims is how some religious people get knowledge but scientists are different. When Scientists make claims they have to demonstrate it with evidence not just spout mere words . And journalists making claims in family magazines isn’t evidence.

I'm not impressed by a biology degree. When scientists make claims they are believed by the populace because the populace takes their word on faith alone not by independently examining the evidence but simply because the scientists said so. In some cases, the evidence has proven to be cherry picked to return the result the scientists in question were trying to get. One can back ones unjustified claims up with evidence as long as one carefully chooses which evidence one uses. Your direct observation is called anecdotal evidence.

 

[grasping the after wind]

They obviously didn't get out enough or were trapped in cities for most of their lives. A lifetime out on the plains will do wonders for the observation of nature and life and the changes regardless of cause are noticeable. The expanse may also have something to do with their ability to see further than most, physically and mentally.

Older people have also seen past predictions of disaster not born out in reality so they are not as likely to be fooled again. Younger people are always more gullible.

 

[Cimorene]

Canada is probably feeling the effects of climate change more strongly than the USA, especially in northern Canada.

I read somewhere that climate change in Canada is twice the rate of other countries. So Canadians see the direct result of climate change first hand.

I'm an American but my parents moved us to Canada yrs ago. I prefer it here. I don't remember ever meeting climate change deniers or ppl who were flippant about it. I remember being taught about stewardship in relation to climate change in Sunday school.

My mom's job gives us the chance to travel a lot so I got to go to an OHS so I could travel with her. Climate change denial is def. more of an issue in the US. The school I went to is run by a university in Cali. Climate change is definitely treated seriously in science classes! The teachers are also profs who have a PhD in their field. We studied it extensively. Idk that it's Americans as a whole who have this attitude about it. It seems more specific to certain demographics. I didn't know that there were more Christians that had that attitude about climate change. That's seriously discouraging. This thread is specifically in a Christians-only section. I think older ppl, like I mean retirement age older, are on here so maybe that skews things too? Idk! Maybe environmental science didn't used to be routinely taught?

 

[ilovejcsog]

perhaps I should have asked Is our world being destroyed by our abuse of resources, etc? Personally I believe that the environment is being ruined by so many things we are doing wrong and how many of the pollution's we put out are a destroying factor. Factories, cars, emissions are the culprits. Remember the ozone layer scare? Do we even have a ozone now?

 

[timothyu]

Maybe environmental science didn't used to be routinely taught?

The movement started in the 60's with rivers and atmosphere pollution. The result was regulations on industry polluters. The result of that is they moved out of country and continue to pollute but to distract from the fact pollution is now determined to be invisible.

 

[timothyu]

Personally I believe that the environment is being ruined by so many things we are doing wrong and how many of the pollution's we put out are a destroying factor.

Consider out of thousands of years, the most human environmental damage has been done in the last 100. What does that tell you?

 

[timothyu]

Older people have also seen past predictions of disaster not born out in reality so they are not as likely to be fooled again. Younger people are always more gullible.

I don't know about there but out in the real world most folks see everything coming out of the US as politically or financially or celebrity self motivated so we don't pay much attention.

 

[klutedavid]

I'm an American but my parents moved us to Canada yrs ago. I prefer it here. I don't remember ever meeting climate change deniers or ppl who were flippant about it. I remember being taught about stewardship in relation to climate change in Sunday school.

My mom's job gives us the chance to travel a lot so I got to go to an OHS so I could travel with her. Climate change denial is def. more of an issue in the US. The school I went to is run by a university in Cali. Climate change is definitely treated seriously in science classes! The teachers are also profs who have a PhD in their field. We studied it extensively. Idk that it's Americans as a whole who have this attitude about it. It seems more specific to certain demographics. I didn't know that there were more Christians that had that attitude about climate change. That's seriously discouraging. This thread is specifically in a Christians-only section. I think older ppl, like I mean retirement age older, are on here so maybe that skews things too? Idk! Maybe environmental science didn't used to be routinely taught?

I think the percentage of Christians that deny climate change is higher than the general population. My minister has a degree and denies climate change and he is not alone.

Over time this opposition to the reality of climate change is decreasing though.

I am deeply skeptical that mankind can reverse climate change. The developing economies around the world such as India, China, in fact include all of Asia, will further drive climate change. Climate change is unstoppable.

 

[Cimorene]

Older people have also seen past predictions of disaster not born out in reality so they are not as likely to be fooled again. Younger people are always more gullible.

Actually no, older people are oftentimes more gullible than younger people. Ppl over 65 are much more susceptible to believing & sharing fake news, including about climate change. Older people in this thread have talked about past predictions of disaster but then were apparently uninformed of the past efforts to take those predictions seriously & implement meaningful changes.

 

[timothyu]

Climate change is unstoppable.

Stop the humans... stop the change. Nature will take care of herself.

 

[Cimorene]

I think the percentage of Christians that deny climate change is higher than the general population. My minister has a degree and denies climate change and he is not alone.

Over time this opposition to the reality of climate change is decreasing though.

I am deeply skeptical that mankind can reverse climate change. The developing economies around the world such as India, China, in fact include all of Asia, will further drive climate change. Climate change is unstoppable.

You're probably right & that's what's embarrassing and distressing to me. I already have to explain to ppl that no, not all Christians think the Earth is flat - as has been claimed on here.

How old is your minister & what was his degree in?

Climate change is unstoppable but what can be stopped is the extent of the damage. Measures can def. be taken to help stop the exacerbation of climate change.

 

[klutedavid]

Stop the humans... stop the change. Nature will take care of herself.

I think we overrode nature and we are directly controlling the environment now. Unfortunately we are not fully aware yet of the extent of that climate change, and the longer term climate change that we have generated.

The next IPCC report will be one that no one will want to read.

 

[klutedavid]

You're probably right & that's what's embarrassing and distressing to me. I already have to explain to ppl that no, not all Christians think the Earth is flat - as has been claimed on here.

How old is your minister & what was his degree in?

Climate change is unstoppable but what can be stopped is the extent of the damage. Measures can def. be taken to help stop the exacerbation of climate change.

He is in his sixties and has a degree in Geology.
But I have not spoken to him for more than five years now, so I don't know whether he may have changed his mind.

The recent data we are receiving about climate change is alarming and seems to be getting far worse. The scientific studies on climate change by governments around the world are increasing every year.

Climate change cannot be denied but the deeper long term impact will be devastating. It is this longer term impact that we have grossly under estimated in previous years.

 

[timothyu]

I think we overrode nature and we are directly controlling the environment now. Unfortunately we are not fully aware yet of the extent of that climate change, and the longer term climate change that we have generated.

Same mistake man made when he put his will before God's. Doing the same with nature.

 

[timothyu]

He is in his sixties and has a degree in Geology.

So his mind is set in stone?

 

[Cimorene]

I'm reading this atm about teen climate change activists. It's making me feel better after being kinda blue from reading what older ppl have written, lol:
Greta Thunberg Has Already Changed the United States for the Better

 

[ilovejcsog]

Actually no, older people are oftentimes more gullible than younger people. Ppl over 65 are much more susceptible to believing & sharing fake news, including about climate change. Older people in this thread have talked about past predictions of disaster but then were apparently uninformed of the past efforts to take those predictions seriously & implement meaningful changes.

I am an elder and I disagree with you

 

[timothyu]

Although God plans our demise to insure change and so that no one person will dictate for long, I highly doubt the demise of the older will make it easier for the younger to create change. It is not about the people but about a way of self serving life as old as mankind. It the upheaval of the 60's which was revolutionary could fizzle out to the beat of disco music and never revive (why did those peoole sell out), then I doubt there will ever be a change. But I encourage youthful rebellion just to remind us of the contrast in ideals that the establishment would like us to forget.