This is a common occurrence ....if they have trouble filling the position, and you do well in it, you may wind up with the position eventually.
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This is a common occurrence ....if they have trouble filling the position, and you do well in it, you may wind up with the position eventually.
It sounds like he's just filling in on occasion. Having full responsibility for the position would be a different thing.Since August, 2018? If so, now is the time to put it squarely to the higher-ups why you aren't qualified after doing the job they might have thought you were not up to.
That's how I see it, although it does suppose that if you are snubbed and also expected to continue doing the job without being paid for it, you might have to resign.
If you aren't prepared to do that, prepare to do the job without title or the salary that is supposed to come with it. They may in fact be counting on just this scenario.
Hmm. I didn't understand it quite that way, but whatever I advised was predicated upon him having done most of the work that is normal for that position and over a significant period of time. If, as you suspect, it is just a few tasks now and then, his bargaining position would be poor.It sounds like he's just filling in on occasion. Having full responsibility for the position would be a different thing.
I would advise to take on the work, and do your best. Even if you do not always hit personal numbers, if they have trouble filling the position, and you do well in it, you may wind up with the position eventually.
If he is asked to do the management job he should be in on what is going on with management.My advice would be don't react in anger or in haste, you don't know what is going on with the management. Bear it for now.
With all due respect, you're acting like someone who will never move up because you're unwilling to do what's asked of you. At the end of the day, as Christians it is our job to submit to our employers lawful authority and do the best job we can for Christ's sake. Complaining about job titles and responsibilities isn't going to get you anywhere with your employer and it does a disservice to Jesus.So I'm an assistant manager with a wireless carrier, we have not had an actual store manager for 6 weeks (august 1). My district manager has known since mid-june they needed a replacement. I applied for the position but because I'm not a "yes" man and my numbers are somewhat low I didn't get it. Which I am actually ok with, but that's not the issue.
My leadership is constantly asking me to do tasks and take on responsibilities that are found only on the store manager's responsibility list, as found in the company's HR site. Now, after having some fill ins come out here to the store, which is an hour away from the nearest location, apparently they are out of fillins so next Tuesday they have told me I'm doing it.
Thus my dilemma. I am strictly about getting paid to do a job. I have filled in plenty of times before with no fuss, because I was trying to show I could do the job. Now that I applied for the job and was turned down, its a different story. How do you expect me to do a job that you said I wasn't able to do by denying my application?
I've really drawn a line in the sand here, now I have a week to change my mind, but really should I? I have applied to all sorts of jobs. I am SICK of sales! Have some experience doing office work, but no takers thus far. I know I can't afford to get fired or lose the position, but what recourse do I have?
Why can't these upper managers just hire someone to take the position? I truly am ok not having the spot, I would love to have been promoted but it didn't happen, ok. But don't then ask me to do the job just not pay me for it. Such disrespect. Am I just being extreme?
Hmm. I didn't understand it quite that way, but whatever I advised was predicated upon him having done most of the work that is normal for that position and over a significant period of time. If, as you suspect, it is just a few tasks now and then, his bargaining position would be poor.
Seems like filling in as store manager when necessary ... is a requirement for the job you have now. You need to think about whether you want to keep that job.
OTOH, you yourself are aware of your shortcomings regarding the store manager position. Seems that your management doesn't feel like you'd be the best fit for the position long-term.
You could change that, I guess, to show that you're more of a team player.
Management is sort of like, being on the team. Someone who is not with the program ... could very well be a problem.
The other solution ... is to find another job ...
It sounds like he's just filling in on occasion. Having full responsibility for the position would be a different thing.
And another way to look at the situation, ... is that he's apparently not yet demonstrated to his management that he's a good choice for the permanent position.
If he wants the job, I think he needs to step it up ...
With all due respect, you're acting like someone who will never move up because you're unwilling to do what's asked of you. At the end of the day, as Christians it is our job to submit to our employers lawful authority and do the best job we can for Christ's sake. Complaining about job titles and responsibilities isn't going to get you anywhere with your employer and it does a disservice to Jesus.
Beyond that, view the job as an extended interview. Perhaps if you wow them they'll reconsider.
Fair compensation is what you agree to work for. If you don't like your pay ask for a raise. Otherwise, you're paid what you bargained for.Did you even read what I submitted? I stated I don't even care about the promotion anymore, which I don't. What I care about is being asked to do a job that I'm not going to get paid for. Is it unethical or un-Christian like to ask to receive fair compensation for a job done?
Just my opinion, but I don't think that's a sacrifice to the Lord. It sounds good when put that way, but it's not a good work or a denial of self so that someone else can benefit or anything like that. It's grinning and bearing, which is better than pouting or getting furious, etc. but that's all we can say from a Christian perspective.As someone suggested already, I can do the job as a sacrifice of sorts to the Lord.
That sounds like the thinking of those Christians seeking power in DC while supporting the powerful.At the end of the day, as Christians it is our job to submit to our employers lawful authority and do the best job we can for Christ's sake.
This is basic Westminster Larger Catechism teaching. In the Larger Catechism, questions 126-132 deal with the duties of superiors and inferiors.That sounds like the thinking of those Christians seeking power in DC while supporting the powerful.
Which would explain why you are not getting promoted. They expect you to do above and beyond. We always get back what we put into life. No on ever gets cheated out of anything. Some people can not see past the nose on their face to see where the future is going to take them. I think even the women in China working in a factory for less then $100 a month. Sometime in their life they will receive compensation for the work they do. What we do will find us, be it good or evil. As we get older we get promoted. Sometimes it takes a bit longer then we would like but they are just making sure that we are ready to do the job. Good you can do your job without a supervisor. My son did a whole internship once and he never had a supervisor. They just assigned him things to do and they expected him to do it on his own and find the help he needed.Thus my dilemma. I am strictly about getting paid to do a job.
So I'm an assistant manager with a wireless carrier, we have not had an actual store manager for 6 weeks (august 1). My district manager has known since mid-june they needed a replacement. I applied for the position but because I'm not a "yes" man and my numbers are somewhat low I didn't get it. Which I am actually ok with, but that's not the issue.
My leadership is constantly asking me to do tasks and take on responsibilities that are found only on the store manager's responsibility list, as found in the company's HR site. Now, after having some fill ins come out here to the store, which is an hour away from the nearest location, apparently they are out of fillins so next Tuesday they have told me I'm doing it.
Thus my dilemma. I am strictly about getting paid to do a job. I have filled in plenty of times before with no fuss, because I was trying to show I could do the job. Now that I applied for the job and was turned down, its a different story. How do you expect me to do a job that you said I wasn't able to do by denying my application?
I've really drawn a line in the sand here, now I have a week to change my mind, but really should I? I have applied to all sorts of jobs. I am SICK of sales! Have some experience doing office work, but no takers thus far. I know I can't afford to get fired or lose the position, but what recourse do I have?
Why can't these upper managers just hire someone to take the position? I truly am ok not having the spot, I would love to have been promoted but it didn't happen, ok. But don't then ask me to do the job just not pay me for it. Such disrespect. Am I just being extreme?