• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.

What percentage of the world is saved?

renniks

Well-Known Member
Jun 2, 2008
10,682
3,449
✟156,970.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
9 After this I looked, and behold, ba great multitude that no one could number, cfrom every nation, from all tribes and peoples and languages, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dclothed in white robes, with epalm branches in their hands, f“Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb.
 
Upvote 0

Blade

Veteran
Site Supporter
Dec 29, 2002
8,175
4,001
USA
✟654,188.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Reading above and below.. I think some are reading more into what is not there. Few find Christ? Few are saved? Christ said I come to give you "live" and more abundantly. Never seen this a in "end game" thing. Yet.. it can be.

There are so many believers that don't have life in this world. Allot of believers in the wide way. We have so many versions of "Jesus". Which one is He going to hold us to? When each of us know our way is the true gospel. Your posting on a site where you do and will stay in your little group. When this "Jesus came in the flesh born by the virgin Mary. Died on the cross for the worlds sins. Was buried and rose the 3rd day PRAISE GOD GLORY TO JESUS!" <---this is not enough to keep us as one

I personally believe many are blind.. don't know the real truth. Or never heard it. So as Jesus said would have no sin. But some say they do see. So I believe its far easier to be saved than lost. One major reason is "MAN" says few will be saved. Thats the 1st red [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] for me.
 
Upvote 0

joshua 1 9

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
May 11, 2015
17,420
3,593
Northern Ohio
✟314,607.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
You are saying we need not be obedient to God in order to be saved?
I am not saying that at all. We are to listen to the HOLY Spirit of God. Not lawlessness as you suggest. We are to be holy and sanctified before God and that is indeed the narrow way.
 
Upvote 0

joshua 1 9

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
May 11, 2015
17,420
3,593
Northern Ohio
✟314,607.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
the narrow gate
The narrow gate is to be holy and sanctifed before God and to take our priesthood serious. 1Peter2:9 "But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God's special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light."
 
Upvote 0

Bruce Leiter

A sinner saved by God's astounding grace and love
Jun 16, 2018
782
551
83
West Michigan
Visit site
✟71,865.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
From Adam and Eve until the day Christ returns what percentage of people are actually saved? I know Jesus says in Matthew 7:13-14 that few people find salvation but just how few are they? Christianity has been the number one religion in the world for a long time now. True many "Christians" just write that they're Christian on a piece of paper and don't truly follow Christ. But just how much of the world exactly chose to follow God? 5%? 10%? Also many people in the world believe in Jesus and have accepted his free gift of salvation. So who among those are saved? All of them? If all of them are saved than why did Jesus make multiple statements of "very few will be saved." it just doesn't make sense.
Why do you have to have a percentage and a number? I cannot tell who is ultimately saved and who is not. That motivates me to witness or testify to everyone after building a relationship with them. Not having should increase our eagerness to share Jesus with everyone. If they're saved, it will build their faith. If they're not, we scatter a seed that we pray will grow and bear fruit.
 
Upvote 0

joshua 1 9

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
May 11, 2015
17,420
3,593
Northern Ohio
✟314,607.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Why do you have to have a percentage and a number?
What is Gematria? Every Hebrew letter has a numerical value. Science tells us that there is extreme precision in the universe. The Universe is universal, not random. We have ratio and balance to everything. Even there is balance between Mars and Venus and all the other planets in the universe. Even there is balance between the Earth and the Moon, that keeps them in their dance together.
 
Upvote 0

Gregory Thompson

Change is inevitable, feel free to spare some.
Site Supporter
Dec 20, 2009
30,404
8,610
Canada
✟904,121.00
Country
Canada
Faith
Christian Seeker
Marital Status
Married
From Adam and Eve until the day Christ returns what percentage of people are actually saved? I know Jesus says in Matthew 7:13-14 that few people find salvation but just how few are they? Christianity has been the number one religion in the world for a long time now. True many "Christians" just write that they're Christian on a piece of paper and don't truly follow Christ. But just how much of the world exactly chose to follow God? 5%? 10%? Also many people in the world believe in Jesus and have accepted his free gift of salvation. So who among those are saved? All of them? If all of them are saved than why did Jesus make multiple statements of "very few will be saved." it just doesn't make sense.
Percent, hmmm .... didn't God want all 100 of the sheep tho?

Good question.
 
Upvote 0

Maria Billingsley

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Oct 7, 2018
11,311
9,350
65
Martinez
✟1,163,028.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
From Adam and Eve until the day Christ returns what percentage of people are actually saved? I know Jesus says in Matthew 7:13-14 that few people find salvation but just how few are they? Christianity has been the number one religion in the world for a long time now. True many "Christians" just write that they're Christian on a piece of paper and don't truly follow Christ. But just how much of the world exactly chose to follow God? 5%? 10%? Also many people in the world believe in Jesus and have accepted his free gift of salvation. So who among those are saved? All of them? If all of them are saved than why did Jesus make multiple statements of "very few will be saved." it just doesn't make sense.
The Father wishes that all be saved. If His numbers are between 1-3%, the death of His Son really did not make an impact on humanity. I believe the numbers are way, way higher. Jesus spoke often in hyperbole to make a point.

Revelation
After this I looked, and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands.
 
  • Optimistic
Reactions: zoidar
Upvote 0

DamianWarS

Follower of Isa Al Masih
Site Supporter
May 15, 2008
10,189
3,447
✟1,009,279.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
One of the leaders of the congregation that Bishop Joseph Garlington (from Promise Keepers) grew up in said that only about 7 or 8 people from all of time and eternity would make it to heaven.
so Christ died for 7 or 8 people? There are more disciples than this and we're still forgetting Noah, Moses, Elijah, Samuel, David, etc..., surely they made it.... this only exposes a merit-based system. grace is more powerful than the sins of 7 or 8 people.
 
Upvote 0

Kenny'sID

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Feb 28, 2016
18,194
6,997
71
USA
✟585,424.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
I am not saying that at all. We are to listen to the HOLY Spirit of God. Not lawlessness as you suggest. We are to be holy and sanctified before God and that is indeed the narrow way.

Thank you for the reply, Josh.

I wasn't sure about what you meant by:

Salvation is not work based though.

Can you please say what you mean by that, along with some examle of someone doing that? And do you know anyone personally, or any denomination who does that?

[QUOTE="joshua 1 9, post: 74189742, member: 376633", so we do not have to serve God in order to be saved.[/QUOTE]

Also, what do you mean exactly by we don't have to serve God? Along with the explanation, an example of what we don't have to do would be helpful.

Thanks again for your help understanding the comments.
 
Upvote 0

Dave-W

Welcoming grandchild #7, Arturus Waggoner!
Site Supporter
Jun 18, 2014
30,522
16,853
Maryland - just north of D.C.
Visit site
✟772,040.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Messianic
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
so Christ died for 7 or 8 people?... this only exposes a merit-based system. grace is more powerful than the sins of 7 or 8 people.
I totally agree. And so does Bishop Garlington. But that was what he was taught as a kid.

There are more disciples than this and we're still forgetting Noah, Moses, Elijah, Samuel, David, etc..., surely they made it.
My church taught that Moses, Elijah et al could not possibly be saved since they did not know to call on the name of Jesus. (no other name)
 
Upvote 0

Dave-W

Welcoming grandchild #7, Arturus Waggoner!
Site Supporter
Jun 18, 2014
30,522
16,853
Maryland - just north of D.C.
Visit site
✟772,040.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Messianic
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
You are saying we need not be obedient to God in order to be saved?
If you have a child, does that little boy or girl cease to be your child if they are disobedient?
 
Upvote 0

Laureate

whatisthebaytreeknown4? What's debate reknown for?
Jan 18, 2012
1,558
425
63
The big island of hawaii 19.5 in the ring of fire
✟76,113.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Messianic
Marital Status
Single
From Adam and Eve until the day Christ returns what percentage of people are actually saved? I know Jesus says in Matthew 7:13-14 that few people find salvation but just how few are they? Christianity has been the number one religion in the world for a long time now. True many "Christians" just write that they're Christian on a piece of paper and don't truly follow Christ. But just how much of the world exactly chose to follow God? 5%? 10%? Also many people in the world believe in Jesus and have accepted his free gift of salvation. So who among those are saved? All of them? If all of them are saved than why did Jesus make multiple statements of "very few will be saved." it just doesn't make sense.

It is sad when you see someone think their world is the actual world, when the world itself disagrees with them, Christianity is not the worlds largest religion, the Muslim faith is, try a Google search outside of Nebraska.

As for the sentiment of your post, the great and dreadful day is as the flood of Noah, which resulted in Noah and his sons ushering those who died back into the kingdom, but this time as descendants of Seth (whom Noah descended from), from the flood on Seth became the Only begotten Son of Adam (Son of Man), for all of Adam's other children died in the flood.

Likewise, in the next day of global judgement, relatively few shall survive, notwithstanding many who shall die will be re-ushered back into the kingdom by the surviving remnant.
 
Upvote 0

zoidar

loves Jesus the Christ! ✝️
Site Supporter
Sep 18, 2010
7,538
2,693
✟1,055,122.00
Country
Sweden
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
If you have a child, does that little boy or girl cease to be your child if they are disobedient?

Do you think Jesus have the same standards for a child to be saved as for an adult?

You know Jesus calls us children, friends, but also servants.
 
Last edited:
Upvote 0

GOD Shines Forth!

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Jan 6, 2019
2,615
2,061
United States
✟377,797.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Single
This topic falls squarely under the umbrella of:

"O LORD, my heart is not lifted up;
my eyes are not raised too high;
I do not occupy myself with things
too great and too marvelous for me.

But I have calmed and quieted my soul,
like a weaned child with its mother;
like a weaned child is my soul within me."

—Psalm 121
 
  • Like
Reactions: zoidar
Upvote 0