“...be in subjection to the governing authorities” Romans 13

[SkyWriting]

The big picture is that Christians don't belong to this world, with all the governing power inside it. We belong to the Kingdom of God. Just let the dead bury the dead.

No governing power stands without God's permission. More often a power stands simply because "the people are so". It's very much unusual for the godly people to have a bad government. Even when this situation exists it occupies only an extremely short period of time in history. More often, the behavior of the people in total will decide (maybe intangibly though) what government will stand. So just let secular people form their own secular governments. Christians are all for the Kingdom of God.

Titus 3
Remind them to be submissive to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for every good work,

1 Peter 2
13 Be subject for the Lord's sake to every human institution, whether it be to the emperor as supreme, or to governors as sent by him to punish those who do evil and to praise those who do good.

 

[Ignatius the Kiwi]

When was this?

Proverbs 8
15 By me kings reign, and rulers decree what is just;

Romans 13
2 Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.

What benefit is there in engaging a fool like you seriously?

 

[SkyWriting]

What benefit is there in engaging a fool like you seriously?

Ya won't know until you try.

1 Peter 2:13-17
Titus 3
1 Timothy 2
Psalms 22:28
Daniel 2:20-21
Romans 13:7
Deuteronomy 16:18-20
Revelation 1
Romans 13:4
Proverbs 21
John 19:11
Mark 3:24
Proverbs 29
Proverbs 8:15
Psalms 94:20
Deuteronomy 28
Daniel 2:21
John 19:10-11
Colossians 1:15-17
Acts 8:32
Matthew 10:38

 

[Ignatius the Kiwi]

You won't know until you try.

Already tried. You've proven incapable. As in I don't think you're capable of rational thought.

 

[ilovejcsog]

Sort of like being in submission to your parents.

 

[W2L]

"Unwise" is a useless term.

Romans 13
Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, 4 for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience.

The bible calls it foolishness but I thought the word unwise was more friendly. Are you saying that the bible uses useless terms?

 

[W2L]

1 Peter 2:13-14
Be subject for the Lord's sake to every human institution, whether it be to the emperor as supreme, or to governors as sent by him to punish those who do evil and to praise those who do good.

Yes, but the bible also says to obey the apostles commands too,, and you just quoted one of those commands! You are however cherry picking what commands you obey! you obey mans commands because the apostles instructed us to, but you don't obey the rest of the the apostles commands? That's cherry picking.

 

[W2L]

Psalm 22:28
For kingship belongs to the Lord, and he rules over the nations.

Proverbs 21
The king's heart is a stream of water in the hand of the Lord; he turns it wherever he will.

Daniel 2
20 Daniel answered and said: “Blessed be the name of God forever and ever, to whom belong wisdom and might. He changes times and seasons; he removes kings and sets up kings; he gives wisdom to the wise and knowledge to those who have understanding;

Deuteronomy 16
18 “You shall appoint judges and officers in all your towns that the Lord your God is giving you, according to your tribes, and they shall judge the people with righteous judgment. You shall not pervert justice. You shall not show partiality, and you shall not accept a bribe, for a bribe blinds the eyes of the wise and subverts the cause of the righteous. Justice, and only justice, you shall follow, that you may live and inherit the land that the Lord your God is giving you.

and your point?

 

[Cimorene]

 

[SkyWriting]

and your point?

Scripture rules!

 

[SkyWriting]

Yes, but the bible also says to obey the apostles commands too,, and you just quoted one of those commands! You are however cherry picking what commands you obey! you obey mans commands because the apostles instructed us to, but you don't obey the rest of the the apostles commands? That's cherry picking.

Where does it say that?
I was researching "Government" and these were the results.
"Government" is pretty generic. Hardly cherry picking such a broad topic.

90 Bible Verses about Role Of Government - OpenBible.info

 

[SkyWriting]

The bible calls it foolishness but I thought the word unwise was more friendly. Are you saying that the bible uses useless terms?

Which passage are you referring to?

 

[W2L]

Where does it say that?
I was researching "Government" and these were the results.
"Government" is pretty generic. Hardly cherry picking such a broad topic.

90 Bible Verses about Role Of Government - OpenBible.info

You do this on purpose I think.

 

[W2L]

Which passage are you referring to?

The apostle paul says not to be unwise and to understand Gods will. (Ephesians 5). Also,Jesus said whoever obeys his commands is considered wise but those who don't are foolish. (Matthew 7)

 

[W2L]

Scripture rules!

You cherry pick, and I think this is a game to you, and im tired of playing so if you wish to disagree and ignore scripture please don't respond again.

 

[SkyWriting]

You cherry pick...

Here ya go, no picking: (Work on your criticism more)

90 Bible Verses about Role Of Government - OpenBible.info

 

[SkyWriting]

You cherry pick, and I think this is a game to you, and im tired of playing so if you wish to disagree and ignore scripture please don't respond again.

Consider that Jesus complied with local law at His crucifiction.

 

[SkyWriting]

Some would argue we are to obey government and its laws even if they are in opposition to God’s laws and His Righteousness.

Only me so far. And scripture:

1 Peter 2:13-17
Titus 3
1 Timothy 2
Psalms 22:28
Daniel 2:20-21
Romans 13:7
Deuteronomy 16:18-20
Revelation 1
Romans 13:4
Proverbs 21
John 19:11
Mark 3:24
Proverbs 29
Proverbs 8:15
Psalms 94:20
Deuteronomy 28
Daniel 2:21
John 19:10-11
Colossians 1:15-17
Acts 8:32
Matthew 10:38

 

[redleghunter]

Only me so far. And scripture:

1 Peter 2:13-17
Titus 3
1 Timothy 2
Psalms 22:28
Daniel 2:20-21
Romans 13:7
Deuteronomy 16:18-20
Revelation 1
Romans 13:4
Proverbs 21
John 19:11
Mark 3:24
Proverbs 29
Proverbs 8:15
Psalms 94:20
Deuteronomy 28
Daniel 2:21
John 19:10-11
Colossians 1:15-17
Acts 8:32
Matthew 10:38

You may want to revisit the OP.

 

[W2L]

Consider that Jesus complied with local law at His crucifiction.

And your point? He fulfilled the law. (John 15:13)