Do we have to keep all the New Testament commands?

[Mathetes66]

"Do we have to keep all the NT commands? I was surprised to not find any articles on google addressing this question. There is plenty on the question of whether or not the OT commands are binding but not the NT commands."

I am surprised that you would ask this question & create controversy & dissension as some of the posts show. As Jesus said to all of us, '...You know neither the Scriptures nor the power of God.'

It is not on searching the internet that one should be doing but HEARING & OBEYING what Christ commanded in the NT. If we don't know whether we are to keep these NT commandments or what they are, HOW in the world will we be able to preach the gospel & make disciples, as here is one of the key things we are to DO in accomplishing the Great Commission AS JESUS COMMANDED HIS DISCIPLES TO DO.

Matt 28:16-20 Now the 11 disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain to which Jesus had directed them. When they saw Him, they worshiped Him; but some were doubtful. And Jesus came up & spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.

19“Go therefore & make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father & the Son & the Holy Spirit, TEACHING THEM TO OBEY ALL THAT I HAVE COMMANDED YOU & lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.”

Luke 11:28 But He replied, "Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God & obey it."

The New Covenant has to do with the laws of God being written on our hearts & minds. Even spiritually born again Christians who don't have the Scriptures readily available in audio or print, especially in other or closed countries, have them written on their hearts. The difference with those under the new covenant is that they now have the indwelling Holy Spirit to bring the inspired Word of God, the Scriptures, from their heart to their minds & lives.

Eph 6:17,18 And take the helmet of salvation & THE SWORD OF THE SPIRIT, WHICH IS THE WORD OF GOD. Pray in the Spirit at all times, with every kind of prayer & petition.

2 Cor 3:2-9 You yourselves are our letter, inscribed on our hearts, known & read by everyone. It is clear that you are a letter from Christ, the result of our ministry, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts.

4Such confidence before God is ours through Christ. Not that we are competent in ourselves to claim that anything comes from us, but our competence comes from God. And He has qualified us as ministers of a NEW covenant, not of the letter but OF THE SPIRIT; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

Now if the ministry of death, which was engraved in letters on stone, came with such glory that the Israelites could not gaze at the face of Moses because of its fleeting glory, will not the MINISTRY OF THE SPIRIT be even more glorious? For if the ministry of condemnation was glorious, how much more glorious is the MINISTRY OF RIGHTEOUSNESS!

Heb 10:11-18
And every priest stands daily at his service, offering repeatedly the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. 12But when Christ had offered for all time a single sacrifice for sins, He sat down at the right hand of God, waiting from that time until His enemies should be made a footstool for His feet. For by a single offering He HAS PERFECTED FOR ALL TIME THOSE WHO ARE BEING SANCTIFIED.

15And the Holy Spirit also BEARS WITNESS to us; for after saying, “This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, declares the Lord: I will put my laws on their hearts & write them on their minds,” then He adds,
“I will remember their sins & their lawless deeds NO MORE.” Where there is forgiveness of these, there is NO LONGER ANY offering for sin.

Heb 8:10,11 For this is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the Lord. I will put My laws in their minds, and inscribe them on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they will be My people. No longer will each one teach his neighbor or his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ because they will all know Me, from the least of them to the greatest. (Jer 31:33)

Prov 7:3 Tie them to your fingers; write them on the tablet of your heart.

Psalm 40:8 I delight to do Your will, O my God; Your law is within my heart."

John 17:17 Sanctify them in THE TRUTH, Thy Word is truth.

John 16:12-15 Aramaic Bible in English “I have much to say to you, but you are not able to grasp it now. But whenever The Spirit OF THE TRUTH COMES, He will lead you INTO THE WHOLE TRUTH, for He will not speak of His own will, but He shall speak whatever He shall hear & He shall reveal the future to you.

I John 5:6 This is He who came by water and blood—Jesus Christ; not by the water only but by the water and the blood. And the Spirit is the One who TESTIFIES because THE SPIRIT IS THE TRUTH.

John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way & THE TRUTH & the life; no one comes to the Father, but through Me.

And He shall glorify Me, because He shall take that which is Mine & shall show you. Everything that my Father has is mine, therefore I said to you that He shall take that which is Mine & He shall show you.”

John 15:9-11 As the Father has loved Me, so have I loved you. Remain in My love. If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love; just as I have kept My Father’s commandments & abide in His love. I have told you these things so that My joy may be in you & your joy may be complete.

Luke 6:46 Why do you keep calling me 'Lord, Lord,' but don't do what I tell you?

James 1:22 Be doers of the word & not hearers only. Otherwise, you are deceiving yourselves.

There are many articles on the internet IF you ask the question in the RIGHT way. Here are a number of them.


“If you love Me, keep My commandments”

Desiring God’s Commandments: The Joy of Christian Obedience

Which Laws Apply? by R.C. Sproul

Christian, Do You Love God's Law?

72 Bible verses about Keep The Commandments

11 Bible verses about Keeping Christ's Commands

22 Best Obedience Bible Verses – Encouraging Scripture

If Anyone Loves Me, He Will Keep My Word

Confusing Man's Traditions with God's Commandments, Part 2

I John 5:1-4 Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God & everyone who loves the Father also loves the one born of Him. By this WE KNOW that we love the children of God: WHEN we love God & keep His commandments.

For this IS the love of God, that WE OBEY HIS COMMANDMENTS. And His commandments ARE NOT BURDENSOME (wearisome), because everyone born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world: our faith.

Obeying God's commands is a joy not a burden or duty because that is the very LOVE OF GOD EXPRESSED!

Gal 3:1-5
O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? Before your very eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed as crucified. I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law, or by hearing with faith?

3Are you so foolish? After STARTING IN THE SPIRIT, are you now finishing in the flesh? Have you suffered so much for nothing, if it really was for nothing? Does God lavish His Spirit on you & work miracles among you because you practice the law, or because you hear & believe?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Jesus keeps all the New Testament, and all the Old Testament , as Yahweh desires, perfectly.

Let's do as Jesus says to do.

 

[Phil W]

Amen. Where is that - it is written - those who once received grace and tasted the powers of heaven, then turn and trample ...... are not only condemned, but there "remains no more any sacrifice for their sin" , so they perish apart from Christ.

Wow, you must have been in third grade before you learned to spell that long name...ha ha .
You have quoted two different verses above.
(Heb 10:26-31) For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
And...
(Heb 6:4-6) For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

 

[bekkilyn]

So far, not what the Bible says. That is a 'good' example of 'human' love, but not of God's Love required of followers of Jesus/ His disciples-Ekklesia. In fact, that kind of human love hurts multitudes in real life around the world, and when seen on forums is a very sure sign of sin. (vain flattery, kissing up, ignoring truth, etc )

*hears a whooshing sound of something overhead*

 

[devin553344]

I was surprised to not find any articles on google addressing this question. There is plenty on the question of whether or not the Old Testament commands are binding but not the New Testament commands.

More specifically my question is this:

In light of the fact that there are something like 1000 commands/exhortations/instruction in the New Testament. Do we have to keep all of them all the time in order to live blamelessly before God as Christians today? Ie. Acts 24:16, Phil 2:15, 1 Tim 6:14.

In other words, is it possible to regularly do things(or fail to do things) that we are instructed not to do in the NT without actually sinning against God?

I realize that there are some things that are obviously of paramount importance, (Like believing the Gospel). But what about all those nitty gritty instruction on how to live, how to do church etc. Are all of those binding on us? (as in we have to do them all, all the time) If so why? Romans 13:8 says "the one who loves his neighbor has fulfilled the law." That would lead me to believe that as long as you truly are loving your neighbor as yourself there could be ten thousand ways that you could knowingly and purposefully disregard a NT command without displeasing God at all. Is this logic faulty? Where does the bible say that we have to do everything written in the NT perfectly all the time in order to keep from sinning against God?

You can try, but I doubt anyone except Jesus himself was perfect or could be.

The only way to be perfect is to be filled with the Holy Spirit for all time, Galatians 5:22-23 indicates which fruits of Gods spirit have no law against them.

It's clear biblical teaching that we are not always going to have the Holy Spirit of God to abide in us: Genesis 6:3

But you can serve God's children and witness of God and be filled with the Holy Spirit from time to time which is awesome.

There have been a few threads around here lately that focus on the Lake of fire for sinners, most are not worth reading in my opinion unless the provide the solution, which solution is the Holy Spirit of God.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

*hears a whooshing sound of something overhead*

John 3:8
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…7Do not be amazed that I said, ‘You must be born again.’ 8The wind blows where it wishes. You hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.” 9“How can this be?” Nicodemus asked.…
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[yeshuaslavejeff]

You can try, but I doubt anyone except Jesus himself was perfect or could be.

It is not for no reason that
God in His Word says His people MUST BE HOLY, for HE IS HOLY,
and
of the disciples "you must be perfect, because your heavenly Father is perfect"...

The problem with understanding this is tradition fouls it up --- not a problem at all

with God's meaning , but because men corrupted the meaning and continue to do so.

 

[devin553344]

It is not for no reason that
God in His Word says His people MUST BE HOLY, for HE IS HOLY,
and
of the disciples "you must be perfect, because your heavenly Father is perfect"...

The problem with understanding this is tradition fouls it up --- not a problem at all

with God's meaning , but because men corrupted the meaning and continue to do so.

Not sure what you're saying. Be perfect and holy. God is perfect and holy. But man often stumbles, if not into dictated sin, then by sin of thought or speech.

 

[Kaon]

If "we have the grace", why commit sin?

The grace is the luxury to not die this day for our iniquity. Moreover, the grace is the luxury to come to repentance and evade the sting of death itself - the consequence for breaking the Law of the Most High God.

Don't you have the grace to reject sin too?

No, should have the conscience and conviction to reject sin. The grace is afforded to us to come to repentance without being scared of condemnation. In other words: we have no reason not to follow the Law. We can delight in the Law even if we transgress - because we have been given the grace to repent.

If you aren't "condemned" why repent?

Only the Father can condemn us to hell, death or otherwise. We repent because we aren't condemned to die yet.

If you won't be condemned the second time or the twentieth time either, why turn from sin...according to your doctrine.

You will be judged based on your actions. The Most High God is not lax like we think of laxness, but He is slow to anger, patiently waiting for all of us to come to repentance. He can't be made into a fool; you can feign repentance, but you will only fool yourself when you get to Judgment Day.

We repent because we love our Father, and we want to please Him. All children should obey their parents, and all children should repent/show remorse after doing something wrong with the intent to stop. The Most High God gave us a living model of the relationship we should have with Him.

Fact is, God gave us everything we need to remain non-sinners after our rebirth.
Stay in the light!

Yes, the Law (Word of God), and His Son (Word of God). Man can't live by bread alone, but by the Word of God (a Living Entity).

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Not sure what you're saying. Be perfect and holy. God is perfect and holy. But man often stumbles, if not into dictated sin, then by sin of thought or speech.

Does God say to "raise a child in the way he should go ?"

 

[devin553344]

Does God say to "raise a child in the way he should go ?"

I'm not really sure what your saying now. Do you say that you can be perfect and holy? Is that what you proclaim?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

I'm not really sure what your saying now. Do you say that you are perfect and holy? And that others can be also? Is that what you proclaim?

It is a simple question. Does God say to "raise a child in the way he should go ? "

Perhaps also, if so,

do you know anyone who was raised in the way he should go ? (i.e. raised right according to God)

 

[devin553344]

It is a simple question. Does God say to "raise a child in the way he should go ? "

Perhaps also, if so,

do you know anyone who was raised in the way he should go ? (i.e. raised right according to God)

I'm not sure what God says in that regard. Perhaps you can quote scripture. Which is what I'm here for, to study scripture with other people of "different" faiths.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

I'm not sure what God says in that regard. Perhaps you can quote scripture.

I believe that God did say "raise a son in the way he should go, and when he is older he will not depart far from it"....
THis is in perfect harmony with all Scripture also.
Also, I have met FEW, almost none, who were raised right (according to God's Word).
Thus, there are few if any examples for some people to see what a righteous life looks like.
It is visible when people live right, as noted mostly in China, and noted rarely in the untied states.
The number of Scriptures concerning all this is many and varied, all through the Bible.

There are a few places online to see them. They cannot be posted openly, or they get overwhelmed. (and often censored/ disappear).

 

[devin553344]

I believe that God did say "raise a son in the way he should go, and when he is older he will not depart far from it"....
THis is in perfect harmony with all Scripture also.
Also, I have met FEW, almost none, who were raised right (according to God's Word).
Thus, there are few if any examples for some people to see what a righteous life looks like.
It is visible when people live right, as noted mostly in China, and noted rarely in the untied states.
The number of Scriptures concerning all this is many and varied, all through the Bible.

There are a few places online to see them. They cannot be posted openly, or they get overwhelmed. (and often censored/ disappear).

Actually what your saying is something I was taught in the Mormon church. I don't recall seeing it in the bible. If you can't quote then I'll disregard it. I have to require quotes from the bible only, as we are all of different faiths and beliefs and I require viewing of scripture to decide what I believe for myself.

But for the most part Jesus the Christ raised me in my heart. Man fell short.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Actually what your saying is something I was taught in the Mormon church.

According to Yahuweh's TORAH,
It is not possible to be taught the right way to live in the mormon church.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

I don't recall seeing it in the bible. If you can't quote then I'll disregard it.

I guess it is a different bible.

If you want to know the truth, you can google the location in the BIBLE at Blue Letter Bilble.... using key words < raise child way should go> ....

This is not required, of course..... just if you want to know.

 

[devin553344]

According to Yahuweh's TORAH,
It is not possible to be taught the right way to live in the mormon church.

Yes for the many years (10+) I was Mormon I pretty much ignored most of it. Polygamy, Praising Joseph Smith instead of Jesus, etc.

 

[GospelS]

I was surprised to not find any articles on google addressing this question. There is plenty on the question of whether or not the Old Testament commands are binding but not the New Testament commands.

More specifically my question is this:

In light of the fact that there are something like 1000 commands/exhortations/instruction in the New Testament. Do we have to keep all of them all the time in order to live blamelessly before God as Christians today? Ie. Acts 24:16, Phil 2:15, 1 Tim 6:14.

In other words, is it possible to regularly do things(or fail to do things) that we are instructed not to do in the NT without actually sinning against God?

I realize that there are some things that are obviously of paramount importance, (Like believing the Gospel). But what about all those nitty gritty instruction on how to live, how to do church etc. Are all of those binding on us? (as in we have to do them all, all the time) If so why? Romans 13:8 says "the one who loves his neighbor has fulfilled the law." That would lead me to believe that as long as you truly are loving your neighbor as yourself there could be ten thousand ways that you could knowingly and purposefully disregard a NT command without displeasing God at all. Is this logic faulty? Where does the bible say that we have to do everything written in the NT perfectly all the time in order to keep from sinning against God?

Hi. Can i reply with my thread here This Is How We Can Keep The Law :)

 

[GenemZ]

I was surprised to not find any articles on google addressing this question. There is plenty on the question of whether or not the Old Testament commands are binding but not the New Testament commands.

More specifically my question is this:

In light of the fact that there are something like 1000 commands/exhortations/instruction in the New Testament. Do we have to keep all of them all the time in order to live blamelessly before God as Christians today? Ie. Acts 24:16, Phil 2:15, 1 Tim 6:14.

In other words, is it possible to regularly do things(or fail to do things) that we are instructed not to do in the NT without actually sinning against God?

I realize that there are some things that are obviously of paramount importance, (Like believing the Gospel). But what about all those nitty gritty instruction on how to live, how to do church etc. Are all of those binding on us? (as in we have to do them all, all the time) If so why? Romans 13:8 says "the one who loves his neighbor has fulfilled the law." That would lead me to believe that as long as you truly are loving your neighbor as yourself there could be ten thousand ways that you could knowingly and purposefully disregard a NT command without displeasing God at all. Is this logic faulty? Where does the bible say that we have to do everything written in the NT perfectly all the time in order to keep from sinning against God?

Some commands were given in its infancy and trying to decide how Gentile believers were to behave. The Jerusalem Council was filled with old Jewish inclinations and certain commands were given in regards the Noahide laws.

Later as the Church age thinking grew and matured, certain ways of thinking were shed and a better grasp on the New Creation in Christ was recognized and understood.

The greatest commands in the NT which would lead a believer to discovering all they need to know in Christ was the command to not grieve the Spirit and to remain filled with the Spirit. Eph 5:18b.

A command that leads to maintaining that needed filling is to be found in 1 John 1:9.

If the believer is genuine in his following 1 John 1:9? God will take care of the rest..

"If we confess/acknowledge our sins, he is faithful and just and will
forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness." 1 jn 1:9
​

That command if not followed, nullifies all other commands one may think they wish to follow. If 1 John 1:9 is not followed? All works become works done in the energy of our flesh, not the Spirit.

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