The Barbarian
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Well all the YEC scientists I know and read prefer creation ex-Deo!
That's not what they've been telling me.
God called forth the herbs from the ground.
Actually, He said:
Genesis 1:11
And he said: Let the earth bring forth the green herb, and such as may seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after its kind, which may have seed in itself upon the earth. And it was so done.
Point 1: the bible does declare a worldwide flood!
Nope. Go look. Doesn't say worldwide. "World" has a different meaning in the Bible, BTW. The term did not mean "entire globe."
It would be stupid for Noah to spend 120 years building an ark, when he could have packed up and moved to a different region to avoid the mess.
Here, you decided to impose what seems right to you, on the Bible.
The bible declared all mountains were covered.
Nope. Doessn't say "all."
Geology shows that the world has continent large sedimentary rock formations!
And your argument is that they could only be formed by a single worldwide flood? Show us the evidence for that.
Evolutionists say multiple floods- but the conformity of the strata across the globe denounces that thought!
Nope. In fact, there are only a few places on the Earth with all of the strata of the geological column.
Point 2 The bible writes it as history and Jesus confirms Noah.
Nope. Neither the Bible, nor Jesus said it was a historical account.
Point 3 No I have not been misled and yes I do know how radiometric dating works.
But you can't tell us how? Why is that?
I also know all the untestable assumptions required to arrive at a radiometric date
Show us those. We'll see if they stand up to inspection.
and the peer reviewed and approved publications in both YEC and secular journals that show how radio decay is not constant.
As you learned, even if the rates aren't constant, (the supposed variations are within the error margins of existing instruments), they wouldn't change billions of years into millions, much less thousands. And if they did, the increase in ionizing radiation would have killed all organisms on Earth. No way to get around it.
Point 4: Argon40/argon39 cannot date such a young event like Pompeii.
And yet it did so. Accurately.
Nailing Pompeii Roman historian Pliny the Younger noted that Mount Vesuvius blew its top and destroyed Pompeii in the early afternoon of August 24, 1,918 years ago. Now, a team of scientists, tempted by the certainty of that record, has confirmed the eruption to within 7 years. The team developed and used an improved radioactive argon-argon dating technique, which they say can reliably establish the age of rocks as old as the solar system or as recent as 1,000 years old. "We nailed the date to 5% on our first attempt, so we could probably get the error down to 1% or less," says Paul Renne, adjunct associate professor of geology and geophysics at the University of California at Berkeley and director of the private Berkeley Geochro-nology Center. "Dating things that are really young has always been the Holy Grail of potassium-argon [an earlier method] and argon-argon dating." Coauthors of the report, published in a recent issue of Science magazine, are Warren D. Sharp and Alan L. Deino of the Geochro-nology Center, and Giovanni Orsi and Lucia Civetta of the Department of Geophysics and Vulcanology at the University of Naples. Civetta also heads the Vesuvian Vulcanologi-cal Observatory.
https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1029/EO078i036p00382-02
That is less than 2,000 years old and qr/ar replaced K/Ar which supposedly measures samples in the billions of years!
Yep. But it worked. So we know the process is valid and accurate.
Point 5: when I caqn find the CERN report again I will post it. The info that I gleaned came from CERN- they applauded it as a means of dealing with nuclear waste.
That's the usual response. No one ever seems to have the data to back up the claim.
Point 6: Neutrino bombardment does affect decay about 3/10% /annum.
Show us your data for that. Checkable source.
You wrote: "Such tiny variation would do YE believers no good at all. If radioactivity increased to a level sufficient to indicate an Earth less than 10,000 years old, it would have fried all living things on Earth anyway. Rock and a hard place, for YE creationism."
Unless of course there was a global flood that washed away and so diluted radio materials as to give rocks a false appearance of age radioactively.
Nope. The soil, the water, the rocks, the air itself would be releasing huge amounts of ionizing radiation. And everything would die.
It has been repeatedly shown that flowing water alters ages because radio material is easily removed from the lattice matrix of minerals.
That's why porous rocks are not used for dating. Only rock that is impermeable to water.
So let us know if you ever find that data, hear?
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