You really really need to read your bible and stop making up stuff you prefer to believe.
Romans 10:9-10 King James Version (KJV)
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Forgiveness has nothing to do with it.
Paul wrote this in Greek. Let’s examine the definition of the Greek word pisteuo which is inaccurately translated to the English word believe. Notice the first 3 definitions all have a number 1 in front of them. This means that the primary definition includes all three of these qualities.
believe
G4100
Lemma:
πιστεύω
Transliteration:
pisteúō
Pronounce:
pist-yoo'-o
Part of Speech:
Verb
Language:
greek
Description:
1) to think to be true, to be persuaded of, to credit, place confidence in a) of the thing believed
1) to credit, have confidence b) in a moral or religious reference
1) used in the NT of the conviction and trust to which a man is impelled by a certain inner and higher prerogative and law of soul
2) to trust in Jesus or God as able to aid either in obtaining or in doing something: saving faith
3) mere acknowledgment of some fact or event: intellectual faith
2) to entrust a thing to one, i.e. his fidelity a) to be intrusted with a thing
Now let’s go ahead and look at the definitions of the Greek words pistis and pistos which are also inaccurately translated to the English words faith and believer.
faith
G4102
Lemma:
πίστις
Transliteration:
pístis
Pronounce:
pis'-tis
Part of Speech:
Noun Feminine
Language:
greek
Description:
1) conviction of the truth of anything, belief; in the NT of a conviction or belief respecting man's relationship to God and divine things, generally with the included idea of trust and holy fervour born of faith and joined with it a) relating to God
1) the conviction that God exists and is the creator and ruler of all things, the provider and bestower of eternal salvation through Christ b) relating to Christ
1) a strong and welcome conviction or belief that Jesus is the Messiah, through whom we obtain eternal salvation in the kingdom of God c) the religious beliefs of Christians d) belief with the predominate idea of trust (or confidence) whether in God or in Christ, springing from faith in the same
2) fidelity, faithfulness a) the character of one who can be relied on
believer
G4103
Lemma:
πιστός
Transliteration:
pistós
Pronounce:
pis-tos'
Part of Speech:
Adjective
Language:
greek
Description:
1) trusty, faithful a) of persons who show themselves faithful in the transaction of business, the execution of commands, or the discharge of official duties b) one who kept his plighted faith, worthy of trust c) that can be relied on
2) easily persuaded a) believing, confiding, trusting b) in the NT one who trusts in God's promises
1) one who is convinced that Jesus has been raised from the dead
2) one who has become convinced that Jesus is the Messiah and author of salvation
Now combine these definitions with what Jesus and the apostles taught us about obedience and bearing fruit and you can arrive at the same teachings the church has taught since the very beginning of Christianity. Unless of course you believe that the apostles failed to complete the task of building Jesus’ church and spreading the gospel that Jesus had assigned them or that all the very churches established by the apostles failed to keep the message intact which would imply that evil had prevailed over His church which Jesus said would not happen.
Yeah I do read my Bible, and study the Greek language it was written in, along with the earliest writings of the church, and the church history to have a more comprehensive understanding of the message the authors were trying to convey. My beliefs are backed by the earliest church writings dating all the way back to 180AD. Your’s began over 1500 years later.
