Bold Prediction: Over-the-phone ministered healing to a specific member of this community!

[Natsumi Lam]

I saw a bumper sticker many years ago that asked:
Have you tormented the Devil yet today?

Love it!

 

[Saint Steven]

Jesus said deliverance from demonic bondage is "the children’s bread".
Who are "the children"? Are you a child of God?

Matthew 15:22-28
A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to him, crying out, “Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is demon-possessed and suffering terribly.”
23 Jesus did not answer a word. So his disciples came to him and urged him, “Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us.”
24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”
25 The woman came and knelt before him. “Lord, help me!” she said.
26 He replied, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.”
27 “Yes it is, Lord,” she said. “Even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their master’s table.”
28 Then Jesus said to her, “Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted.” And her daughter was healed at that moment.

 

[Saint Steven]

The prayer of faith makes a sick person well. Prayer for healing is powerful and effective.

James 5:14-16
Is anyone among you sick? Let them call the elders of the church to pray over them and anoint them with oil in the name of the Lord. 15 And the prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well; the Lord will raise them up. If they have sinned, they will be forgiven. 16 Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective.

 

[Saint Steven]

Don't limit God.
According to what? (the power that worketh in us)

Ephesians 3:20 KJV
Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us, ​

 

[Saint Steven]

Who parted the Red Sea? Was it God? (nope)
What did the Lord say to Moses? (see bold)
God wanted Moses to use his staff (authority) to deliver the Israelites.

Exodus 14:15-16
Then the Lord said to Moses, “Why are you crying out to me? Tell the Israelites to move on. 16 Raise your staff and stretch out your hand over the sea to divide the water so that the Israelites can go through the sea on dry ground.

 

[Saint Steven]

Do you believe that your name is written in heaven? (of course)
Then why would you not believe you have authority over evil spirits? (demons/sickness)

Luke 10:19-20
I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you. 20 However, do not rejoice that the spirits submit to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven.”

 

[NBB]

That was the only time I got told off by the Lord. He said to me, "Don't ever do that again until I tell you that you can!" That was 1970. He has never opened the door for me to have a deliverance ministry to this day, 49 years later. Even when I read every book I could on spiritual warfare and learned heaps about it - the good, bad, and the ugly, and the right and wrong ways to go about it, He still has not opened any doors of ministry in that area; in fact, although many people with medical conditions have come across my path for me to pray with them, I have never had one demon manifest in front of me for me to use what I learned about spiritual warfare.

I never 'manifested' and the pastors i knew never prayed or delivered me of any of the hundrerds of spiritual problems i had, i was quite loaded with them, until God started showing them to me and i began to drive them off, i'm still in the process of being free i say, thanks God. Maybe you need to have the discerment of spirit gift to 'see' them, i don't think i have that, i just seem to be able to discern them with the help of God only in me.

 

[Kenny'sID]

Dont you all know that everyone on this thread is correct? Therefore there is no reason to try and convince the other side that they are wrong.....because they arent. What a man thinketh so is he. If you believe God doesnt heal or doesnt heal at your request or only sometimes......you are correct! It will be unto you as you believe..... You will not be healed every time you ask....and you may or may not be healed whenever you choose to ask for it.

Those who believe God does heal every time you ask.....you are correct....be it unto you as you believe. Enjoy your health. And do not boast concerning this gift......as the Lord giveth and He can take away....

So everyone is right....Everyone is receiving what they believe and getting the desires of their heart. Who are we to tell the other that they should want or desire something other than they want and desire?

Blind men asked Jesus to give them their sight....."and Jesus saith unto them, Believe ye that I am able to do this?" The men then had to make a choice...... It just so happened that they answered.... "Yea, Lord" And only after this, did Jesus heal them.

We are all free to answer as we choose......and all should be allowed to make this choice without judgement.

No.

Some are asking for a single proof and until that happens, your comments are most certainly part of the fantasy.

 

[NBB]

No.

Some are asking for a single proof and until that happens, your comments are most certainly part of the fantasy.

Why you need proof, God heals, i think God wants to do a lot more than we see today, and the more we believe in God the better. If we want to see proof then we better start believing more with the help of God we will see something, God does great things.

 

[Strong in Him]

If you heard him prophesy and heal the sick, you would use that as more reason to say he was born again, yet the savior states that people who do these things can be unknown by Him.

There is no benefit in judging another's salvation......

I don't do so.
David Watson wrote about his conversion, how he received the Spirit, started reading the Bible and was leading others to Christ even before he went to Bible college.
He knew he was saved; I have no reason to doubt him.

 

[Kenny'sID]

Why you need proof, God heals, i think God wants to do a lot more than we see today, and the more we believe in God the better. If we want to see proof then we better start believing more with the help of God we will see something, God does great things.

Because these are men making claims, they are not God or Jesus. If you want to put your absolute faith in men then do it, I will not. Just the fact you have to ask that is amazing to me.

Of course the almighty can heal through men, but after all my asking for proof, watching their reaction, and some telling me the very shaky things they see as proof, the conveniently unanswered sensible questions towards them, it simply does not add up.

Then there is this very thread, and what it's about, where the OP should have been able to immediately come back and at least claim there was a healing because as I recall back in the day, the healing were done immediately. I've already commended to OP for stepping up to the plate and doing the right thing here, but as you can see, days later (again it should have been done immediately) nothing.

And we can make excuses for that and other things all day long, but in the end, not one iota of proof has been offered. Christ himself preformed healing in the the home town of those needing healing, where they lived for many yrs and everyone knew they had an ailment, meaning he proved his healing, so it's not like it's an unreasonable expectation/request.

There is a biblical test to prove a prophet is what he claims to be, and it's as simple as: If what he claims comes to pass, he is, and if it does not, he is not, and so far we've nothing come to pass. That also proves it's reasonable to expect to see proof.

Anyone can make a claim, but as of yet, that's all they are. Any one here that chooses to be gullible, and not take common sense/biblical reasoning to heart, will be, but I would be very careful lest you end up caught up in a delusion.

I guess I'm just a hopeless realist, and it bothers me when people go out into la la land, and believe something that they have no good reason to believe, simply because they want to. I just don't think that is healthy for the professed Christian...it can only be harmful.

That's why.

 

[NBB]

Because these are men making claims, they are not God or Jesus. If you want to put your absolute faith in men then do it, I will not. Just the fact you have to ask that is amazing to me.

Of course the almighty can heal through men, but after all my asking for proof, watching their reaction, and some telling me the very shaky things they see as proof, the conveniently unanswered sensible questions towards them, it simply does not add up.

Then there is this very thread, and what it's about, where the OP should have been able to immediately come back and at least claim there was a healing because as I recall back in the day, the healing were done immediately. I've already commended to OP for stepping up to the plate and doing the right thing here, but as you can see, days later (again it should have been done immediately) nothing.

And we can make excuses for that and other things all day long, but in the end, not one iota of proof has been offered. Christ himself preformed healing in the the home town of those needing healing, where they lived for many yrs and everyone knew they had an ailment, meaning he proved his healing, so it's not like it's an unreasonable expectation/request.

There is a biblical test to prove a prophet is what he claims to be, and it's as simple as: If what he claims comes to pass, he is, and if it does not, he is not, and so far we've nothing come to pass. That also proves it's reasonable to expect to see proof.

Anyone can make a claim, but as of yet, that's all they are. Any one here that chooses to be gullible, and not take common sense/biblical reasoning to heart, will be, but I would be very careful lest you end up caught up in a delusion.

I guess I'm just a hopeless realist, and it bothers me when people go out into la la land, and believe something that they have no good reason to believe, simply because they want to. I just don't think that is healthy for the professed Christian...it can only be harmful.

That's why.

God can heal and i believe still heals today is all i say, i don't know if this person johnny was talking about is going to be healed, i just don't say he won't. I hope he can be healed, we are not trying to work against this kind of thing do we.

 

[RaymondG]

No.

Some are asking for a single proof and until that happens, your comments are most certainly part of the fantasy.

And as I state in my post.. You are correct....to you it is fantasy and not true....... For those who believe ....it is real.

Proof is for those who serve a different god.....it shows that one exist and the other doesnt...... It would be pointless to try and prove whether or not the limitless one has limitation......and what would be the motives behind such a test?

Is there anything impossible for God? If you've found some things.....why not keep it to yourself?

 

[Kenny'sID]

If we want to see proof then we better start believing more with the help of God we will see something,

You mean see something that isn't there like you all? No, God has nothing to do with that mess, it's his opposite that is responsible for making people see things.

Your meaning there is it's the lack of my belief that is the problem, an extremely common, and low down trick designed to blame those that rightfully insist upon proof.

However, God has helped me, he's helped me "see something"...the truth.

 

[NBB]

You mean see something that isn't there like you all? No, God has nothing to do with that mess, it's his opposite that is responsible for making people see things.

Your meaning there is it's the lack of my belief that is the problem, an extremely common, and low down trick designed to blame those that rightfully insist upon proof.

However, God has helped me, he's helped me "see something"...the truth.

I don't accuse you of unbelief, we all lack faith in some area. Don't get offended please.

What i believe is God can do a lot more in our lifes, and we should desire to see more, this kind of christian life that doesn't want to see anything from God is not good, i'm not talking of healings only but of everything.

 

[Kenny'sID]

God can heal and i believe still heals today is all i say,

No, that is not all you say, see your post I originally replied to.

And as I state in my post.. You are correct....to you it is fantasy and not true....... For those who believe ....it is real.

Ain't that the truth. We can make anything seem real if we try hard enough.

Proof is for those who serve a different god

Show me were that is biblical, please, because I think you're making things up now. Or will the request for proof that is biblical end up one of those conveniently unanswered questions?

Look up "proving the prophets" if you don't believe me.

 

[Kenny'sID]

I don't accuse you of unbelief, we all lack faith in some area. Don't get offended please.

No offense take at all, though you did say that, I've no doubt about it.

What i believe is God can do a lot more in our lifes, and we should desire to see more, this kind of christian life that doesn't want to see anything from God is not good, i'm not talking of healings only but of everything.

What? I'd love to see it, where did you get the idea I do not?? And if you are not taking about healing you are confusing the issue because that's what this is about...are they healing or are thy not, nothing more.

 

[NBB]

You mean see something that isn't there like you all? No, God has nothing to do with that mess, it's his opposite that is responsible for making people see things.

Your meaning there is it's the lack of my belief that is the problem, an extremely common, and low down trick designed to blame those that rightfully insist upon proof.

However, God has helped me, he's helped me "see something"...the truth.

You believe there is no one that prayed and someone else got healed today? i think this is not so rare to have happened, in this case a person wants to pray to God to heal someone, and he sets some weird condition or whatever, but basically he believes the person would be healed, this kind of thing happens today, if not instant then after some time, one proof is that God have not changed his mind about healing, why he would have?

And i'm not saying he will get healed, like if i know he will or something.

 

[NBB]

No offense take at all, though you did say that, I've no doubt about it.



What? I'd love to see it, where did you get the idea I do not?? And if you are not taking about healing you are confusing the issue because that's what this is about...are they healing or are thy not, nothing more.

Ok, so i don't think i understood very well, so why you want proof exactly? you believe this things happen today? if you want proof to believe a prayer can heal then is obvious God teaches that he can answer our prayers, more when we have a need.

 

[Saint Steven]

God can heal and i believe still heals today is all i say, i don't know if this person johnny was talking about is going to be healed, i just don't say he won't. I hope he can be healed, we are not trying to work against this kind of thing do we.

The healing is already paid for. We are just waiting for the manifestation to arrive.