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Evolution and Genesis account of creation

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As you can see, their knowledge of the world was quite confusing. And they wrote Genesis.

We know better today and therefore we should not extract some kind of science from Genesis.
Jesus forgot to point out Moses was confused when he appeared to Him on the mountain with the apostles. He forgot to tell Moses that when He gave him the ten commandments and delivered the Hebrews from Egypt. Sorry, it is not Moses that was confused here.
As for your claim we know better...sorry. No.
 
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I told you they said everything was created by God. But you don't want to accept the way He did it.

Sorry, can't help with those delusions.
The way He did it is the way He says He did it in Scripture.
 
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Jesus forgot to point out Moses was confused when he appeared to Him on the mountain with the apostles. He forgot to tell Moses that when He gave him the ten commandments and delivered the Hebrews from Egypt. Sorry, it is not Moses that was confused here.
As for your claim we know better...sorry. No.
The goal of Jesus was not to tell us how the universe work, what is space time, what are atoms, to teach us astronomy and to tell the crowds about Schrodinger's cat or about double slit experiment.

Therefore He had no need to point out that Genesis is not to be taken scientifically. Neither Jesus, nor Moses nor Bible is there to teach us science. Science is a modern style of thinking, it originates in 16th/17th century.

Bible/Christianity is about our salvation and about our journey to God.
 
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Jesus forgot to point out Moses was confused when he appeared to Him on the mountain with the apostles.

He wasn't teaching a science lesson. So He didn't even bring it up. He had some other things He was concerned about, and that's what went on there.
 
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The goal of Jesus was not to tell us how the universe work, what is space time, what are atoms, to teach us astronomy and to tell the crowds about Schrodinger's cat or about double slit experiment.
Or about Aesop's fables. The slit experiment has no value for the future or past, or the distant universe. How would you know what photons will act like in heaven or the future?? Why would any book of value obsess over the present world laws and temporary realities??
Therefore He had no need to point out that Genesis is not to be taken scientifically.
Science doesn't cover it so why would anyone need to tell us it was supposed to be limited to science??
Neither Jesus, nor Moses nor Bible is there to teach us science. Science is a modern style of thinking, it originates in 16th/17th century.
A temporary and severely limited way of thinking.
Bible/Christianity is about our salvation and about our journey to God.
It is about how Jesus created things and the future in large part.
 
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Yes, and you don't accept it.
Not if you think accepting Scripture means putting false science first, and twisting God's word accordingly. Only when He is first will we understand and believe.
 
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He wasn't teaching a science lesson. So He didn't even bring it up. He had some other things He was concerned about, and that's what went on there.
Why would the Almighty waste time on foolish limited demonically twisted false science? In no way does this lessen Moses or how Jesus respected Scripture.
 
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Why would the Almighty waste time on foolish limited demonically twisted false science?

As I pointed out to you, He wasn't teaching anything about the way He did creation; His intent was on something else entirely.

God didn't discuss physics, biology, or planetary science in Genesis. In no way does this lessen Moses or how Jesus respected Scripture. It does explain why YE creationists disrespect scripture.
 
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Not if you think accepting Scripture means putting false science first, and twisting God's word accordingly.

That is what YE creationists do. If you put God first, there's no need for the modern revisions of YE.

Only when He is first will we understand and believe.
 
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As I pointed out to you, He wasn't teaching anything about the way He did creation; His intent was on something else entirely.

God didn't discuss physics, biology, or planetary science in Genesis. In no way does this lessen Moses or how Jesus respected Scripture. It does explain why YE creationists disrespect scripture.
Well, as I pointed out Genesis tells us how things were made and the rest of the bible echoes it. Science is way out in fishbowl left field.
 
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That is what YE creationists do. If you put God first, there's no need for the modern revisions of YE.

Only when He is first will we understand and believe.
So much vague beating around the bush to cover disbelief in a real creation as per Scripture. We will have to disagree.
 
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So much vague beating around the bush to cover disbelief in a real creation as per Scripture.

Why not just accept it as it is? The ancient Christians had no problem with that? Why is it so hard for you. Let God be God and do it His way.

We will have to disagree.

I suppose so.
 
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Why not just accept it as it is? The ancient Christians had no problem with that? Why is it so hard for you. Let God be God and do it His way.



I suppose so.
Ancient Christians did not believe that the world was a result of a pepper sized hot soup growing real fast, or that man was comet scuz deposits.
 
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Ancient Christians did not believe that the world was a result of a pepper sized hot soup growing real fast, or that man was comet scuz deposits.

They did, however, realize that the creation story in Genesis is not literal history, and that the "days" therein were not periods of time. The idea that they were, is a modern revision of scripture.
 
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They did, however, realize that the creation story in Genesis is not literal history, and that the "days" therein were not periods of time. The idea that they were, is a modern revision of scripture.
Show us where the apostles and Jesus did not think Adam was real?
 
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Barbarian observes:
They did, however, realize that the creation story in Genesis is not literal history, and that the "days" therein were not periods of time. The idea that they were, is a modern revision of scripture.

Show us where the apostles and Jesus did not think Adam was real?

So your confusion is in supposing that God can't give an allegory about real people. What is your evidence for that?
 
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Barbarian observes:
They did, however, realize that the creation story in Genesis is not literal history, and that the "days" therein were not periods of time. The idea that they were, is a modern revision of scripture.
The sabbath was a day for rest on a certain day of the week. Like God rested after 6 days so was His people to rest from their labors in the old testament. I don't recall Jesus saying He would be dead and rise again after millions of years? You seem to think He didn't so much as know what a day was. By the way, how many millions or billions of years do you think a morning are? An evening? Ha.

So your confusion is in supposing that God can't give an allegory about real people. What is your evidence for that?

In other words your insinuation/belief is that what was said about Adam was not real in any way. How about Eve, how many millions of years did it take for God to get Eve from Adam's bone? Ha.

I don't mind people not yet being able to believe when they admit it. I do mind masking unbelief as something else.
 
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The sabbath was a day for rest on a certain day of the week. Like God rested after 6 days so was His people to rest from their labors in the old testament. I don't recall Jesus saying He would be dead and rise again after millions of years?

The day of rest, and Jesus rising from the dead on the 7th day are parables for the different aspects of God's creation. You seem to think He didn't so much as know what a day was.

By the way, how many millions or billions of years do you think a morning are?

As Augustine pointed out, over 1500 years ago, the "days" of Genesis weren't about time at all. You just aren't willing to let God do it His way.


In other words your modern revisionary/ YE belief is that what was said about Adam was not real in any way.

I don't mind people not yet being able to believe when they admit it. I do mind masking YE creationism as scripture.
 
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The day of rest, and Jesus rising from the dead on the 7th day are parables for the different aspects of God's creation. You seem to think He didn't so much as know what a day was.
I think you mean rising o the third day? That was no parable.

As Augustine pointed out, over 1500 years ago, the "days" of Genesis weren't about time at all. You just aren't willing to let God do it His way.
Did he point out mornings were not really about mornings or evenings about evenings also? More importantly who really cares what he thought?
In other words your modern revisionary/ YE belief is that what was said about Adam was not real in any way.
Eve was not real and really taken from a bone of Adam?
 
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