Covington high school student files 250 million lawsuit against Washington Post

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I bet most people reading this thread don't know his name. "Whole life tarnished", phfft! He got a little notoriety which he is hoping to parlay into cash. He can probably do the right-wing talk show circuit.

His whole life has been tarnished. Or at least until now. It remains to be seen what happens in the future for him when people dredge this up on social media to try and paint him as a racist. The future is unwritten yet. But we have seen what people have done with others.
 
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I'm sure someone at some point (probably when running for office) will try to say that he joined the KKK solely because of the spiffy uniforms, or because they have a good dental plan, or because his wife insisted he get out and socialize more...

"What? They're racists? I hadn't noticed..."

Did this kid join the KKK? I was unaware.
 
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His whole life has been tarnished. Or at least until now. It remains to be seen what happens in the future for him when people dredge this up on social media to try and paint him as a racist. The future is unwritten yet. But we have seen what people have done with others.

If they can so easily dredge this up to paint him as a racist, it should be child's play to dredge up his vindication... any reason why it shouldn't be?

After all, his vindication is a matter of public record, and as his last name is not Clinton, it's not as though people would go out of their way to ignore it.
 
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Did this kid join the KKK? I was unaware.

@NotreDame was using the KKK as an analogy -- to address the legal question of whether "X is a racist" can ever be factually determined, as opposed to a matter of opinion. He said that it could -- that someone who joins the KKK could, as a matter of fact, be considered a racist. I offered a humorous alternative.

Neither I nor anyone else mentioned the kid. Pay attention... it slows down the entire discussion when we have to stop and catch people up.
 
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If they can so easily dredge this up to paint him as a racist, it should be child's play to dredge up his vindication... any reason why it shouldn't be?

After all, his vindication is a matter of public record, and as his last name is not Clinton, it's not as though people would go out of their way to ignore it.

We've already seen how people act. The problem is this kid may have to continue to defend himself for a long time. Everytime someone dredges this stuff up he'll have to being up the stuff showing his innocence. That's what I'm talking about cause that's how people are.
 
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@NotreDame was using the KKK as an analogy -- to address the legal question of whether "X is a racist" can ever be factually determined, as opposed to a matter of opinion. He said that it could -- that someone who joins the KKK could, as a matter of fact, be considered a racist. I offered a humorous alternative.

Neither I nor anyone else mentioned the kid. Pay attention... it slows down the entire discussion when we have to stop and catch people up.

Well, thanks for catching me up anyway. And by the way I agree that if someone joins the KKK they could be considered a racist.
 
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We've already seen how people act. The problem is this kid may have to continue to defend himself for a long time. Everytime someone dredges this stuff up he'll have to being up the stuff showing his innocence. That's what I'm talking about cause that's how people are.

Pretty much the same thing that happens whenever anyone is found "not guilty" in a court of law. Some folks just don't care what a stupid judge has to say.

Shall every exonerated criminal also receive a nine-figure compensation?
 
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Well, thanks for catching me up anyway. And by the way I agree that if someone joins the KKK they could be considered a racist.

So do I -- but a lawyer's creativity rises proportionally with the wealth of his client -- and the lawyer's desperation rises proportionally with the guilt of his client.

I could see a lawyer attempting such an argument in front of a jury... probably unsuccessfully, but who knows?
 
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Pretty much the same thing that happens whenever anyone is found "not guilty" in a court of law. Some folks just don't care what a stupid judge has to say.

Shall every exonerated criminal also receive a nine-figure compensation?
Apples and oranges.
 
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Bananas, crackers, and nuts. Make a point?
I know you are not unaware of the phrase and what it means. I don't want to talk down to you. But just in case, a criminal case is not the same thing as what we are talking about. Completely different circumstances .
 
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I know you are not unaware of the phrase and what it means. I don't want to talk down to you. But just in case, a criminal case is not the same thing as what we are talking about. Completely different circumstances .

Right -- in many ways, a criminal case is even worse than bad press, because it's the power of the government bearing down to deprive you of your liberty, and possibly your life. Seeing as how people are being conditioned to trust the government more than the lugenpresse, an accusation from them can really wreck your life.

And even if the courts (or similar body, say for example, a Congressional Committee) puts you though the wringer and fails to find any wrongdoing, you still have to deal with the throngs of bleating sheep chanting to lock you up! lock you up! lock you up!

OTOH, this kid is in the same situation as.... who? Can you remember the last person this happened to?
 
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I've read through a lot of your postings. You are definitely liberal leaning.

That's an issue of perspective I'm afraid. Many Conservatives think anyone who isn't a Conservative is a liberal. I'm a moderate with some small "l' liberterian leanings. Do I tend to go after Conservative nonsense posted here more than liberal nonsense? Yeah, and I chalk that up to living in Texas and being surrounded by people spouting the same nonsense and keeping my mouth shut because they're my friends and coworkers.
 
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That's an issue of perspective I'm afraid. Many Conservatives think anyone who isn't a Conservative is a liberal. I'm a moderate with some small "l' liberterian leanings. Do I tend to go after Conservative nonsense posted here more than liberal nonsense? Yeah, and I chalk that up to living in Texas and being surrounded by people spouting the same nonsense and keeping my mouth shout because they're my friends.

And that's going back to the time when "Conservative" and "Liberal" (and for that matter, "Patriot" and "enemy of America and all it stands for") were defined separately from allegiance to the ruling party -- and its current Master.
 
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Right -- in many ways, a criminal case is even worse than bad press, because it's the power of the government bearing down to deprive you of your liberty, and possibly your life. Seeing as how people are being conditioned to trust the government more than the lugenpresse, an accusation from them can really wreck your life.

And even if the courts (or similar body, say for example, a Congressional Committee) puts you though the wringer and fails to find any wrongdoing, you still have to deal with the throngs of bleating sheep chanting to lock you up! lock you up! lock you up!

OTOH, this kid is in the same situation as.... who? Can you remember the last person this happened to?

I do believe that if you can show malicious prosection you should be able to sue. We should be able to hold our government accountable.

And as far as Clinton is concerned she DID violatel the law. The Justice Dept elected to not file charges against her despite the fact. A clear case of special treatment. Something else the government failed at.

But again this is not that. The kid was clearly singled out and no one even investigated it in the media until later. He was just judged guilty.
 
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I do believe that if you can show malicious prosection you should be able to sue. We should be able to hold our government accountable.

And as far as Clinton is concerned she DID violatel the law. The Justice Dept elected to not file charges against her despite the fact. A clear case of special treatment. Something else the government failed at.

But again this is not that. The kid was clearly singled out and no one even investigated it in the media until later. He was just judged guilty.

You remember that Fox news lawsuit that was dismissed because they argued they had no requirement to be honest?
 
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That's an issue of perspective I'm afraid. Many Conservatives think anyone who isn't a Conservative is a liberal. I'm a moderate with some small "l' liberterian leanings. Do I tend to go after Conservative nonsense posted here more than liberal nonsense? Yeah, and I chalk that up to living in Texas and being surrounded by people spouting the same nonsense and keeping my mouth shut because they're my friends and coworkers.

I look at what people say before making a call. Your postings are definitely more liberal than moderate. The evidence is there when the vast majority of of the things you say lean left.
 
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I do believe that if you can show malicious prosection you should be able to sue. We should be able to hold our government accountable.

Great -- now, show malice on the part of the press before you hand out 9-figure reparation.

And as far as Clinton is concerned she DID violatel the law. The Justice Dept elected to not file charges against her despite the fact. A clear case of special treatment. Something else the government failed at.

Didn't the government have enough evidence of malice to get a conviction? No? Doesn't sound all that special to me.

But again this is not that. The kid was clearly singled out and no one even investigated it in the media until later. He was just judged guilty.

Judged by whom? The court of public opinion?
 
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