Is it normal for Christians to have opposing views?

[JohnB445]

Here I will give a scenario.

Christian A, and Christian B.

Christian A, and Christian B both agree with Jesus divinity, how to be saved, and the Trinity.

But Christian A and Christian B disagree on certain doctrines.

Is this a case whether or not Christian A or Christian B has the Holy Spirit living inside of them?

Why would the Holy Spirit lead Christians into contradictory views?

 

[salt-n-light]

Here I will give a scenario.

Christian A, and Christian B.

Christian A, and Christian B both agree with Jesus divinity, how to be saved, and the Trinity.

But Christian A and Christian B disagree on certain doctrines.

Is this a case whether or not Christian A or Christian B has the Holy Spirit living inside of them?

Why would the Holy Spirit lead Christians into contradictory views?

I'm guessing what you meant by doctrine is more of how one should structure and express their christian life. Yes there is more or less a template in the basic of what a christian should believe in to be an actual christian, such as how to be saved, trinity, etc.

But then in terms of how one should express that will naturally be more individual, and if a bunch of individuals have the same vision of how the assembly should be, doctrine is form. The fact that there are different ways people structure their walk is totally fine, that is the freedom we have. Some may want to give sabbath importance, some want to order it by rituals, some through missionary work, etc. I think where the clash is is when we put more emphasis and importance over how we want to express it over what and why we are expressing it in the first place. I think that's where alot of contradiction comes into play.

For me, I have no problem with whichever day of worship, but for some its really important. We don't have to clash at all.But its different if I judge them for making one day too important, and the same if they shame me for not picking a particular day. Now if they are going against the Word, then thats not a matter of expressing it, but matter of what their basic understanding of the faith is.

The Holy Spirit will only point back to the basics of the faith, and not to forget it. But its up to us to examine ourselves if such basics are in the forefront of thought when we are expressing and structuring our christian walk.

So yes it is normal, is it something that I celebrate on? No. But its a reality

 

[Not David]

The Church is infallible not individual interpretations.

 

[Just_a_Christian]

Here I will give a scenario.

Christian A, and Christian B.

Christian A, and Christian B both agree with Jesus divinity, how to be saved, and the Trinity.

But Christian A and Christian B disagree on certain doctrines.

Is this a case whether or not Christian A or Christian B has the Holy Spirit living inside of them?

Why would the Holy Spirit lead Christians into contradictory views?

The Holy Spirit led the inspired writers while they penned the New Testament. Jesus speaks to us today through the New Testament. Doctrine is anything that can effect salvation. Seperate from the "all knowing man" and sinful pride, there would be no contention regarding doctrine. The Bible teaches we have liberty to decide for ourselves regarding any topic that outside of doctrine but we're not at liberty to try to bind our opinions on others. Simple enough, right?

 

[Just_a_Christian]

The Church is infallible not individual interpretations.

I would have to disagree with you, not because I want, but because that is unbiblical. God's word is infallible, the church unfortunately is because it is comprised of humans. Doctrinal issues are not up for interpretation/opinions. If everyone could see this fact, there would be no divisions.
In Him

 

[Not David]

I would have to disagree with you, not because I want, but because that is unbiblical. God's word is infallible, the church unfortunately is because it is comprised of humans. Doctrinal issues are not up for interpretation/opinions. If everyone could see this fact, there would be no divisions.
In Him

Paul called the Church "the foundation and pillar of truth"

 

[Just_a_Christian]

Paul called the Church "the foundation and pillar of truth"

Paul is only talking about "the" church which is not teaching any false doctrine. Difficult to find these days, unfortunately.
In Him

 

[Not David]

Paul is only talking about "the" church which is not teaching any false doctrine. Difficult to find these days, unfortunately.
In Him

That would imply the "gates of hell" prevailed even though Jesus said they wouldn't do that.

 

[Just_a_Christian]

That would imply the "gates of hell" prevailed even though Jesus said they wouldn't do that.

Prevail over would mean to triumph over. If there is just one church, with just three members, existing any where on Earth, hell did not prevail. Wherever there are 2 or 3 gathered together in His name He promises to be in the midst there of.
In Him

 

[Not David]

Prevail over would mean to triumph over. If there is just one church, with just three members, existing any where on Earth, hell did not prevail. Wherever there are 2 or 3 gathered together in His name He promises to be in the midst there of.
In Him

Can you tell me the story of the "True Church" after Christ died?

 

[Albion]

Paul called the Church "the foundation and pillar of truth"

Nothing there about infallibility. Indeed, the reference is not even to the institutional church organization but rather to the people of God, "the church" in the most basic sense of the word.

 

[hedrick]

It's normal in the sense that it's always been true. In the NT we have disagreements between Christians, e.g. between Paul and James. Paul's letters also report disagreements on eating of meat from pagan markets, as well as over the Sabbath. Paul counsels people on both sides to accept each other.

The evidence doesn't suggest that being led by the Holy Spirit includes being inerrant on doctrine and ethics.

 

[Albion]

Prevail over would mean to triumph over. If there is just one church, with just three members, existing any where on Earth, hell did not prevail. Wherever there are 2 or 3 gathered together in His name He promises to be in the midst there of.
In Him

That is to speak of "triumphing over" as extinguishing the truth. But it can also refer to the success or failure of Christianity in the world that Christ sent his disciples out to convert. So how is that going? Internal disagreements over some doctrines aside, Christianity is the largest religion on Earth, has been the most influential, and it is the most widespread. Satan has obviously not hushed up the Good News.

 

[Just_a_Christian]

That is to speak of "triumphing over" as extinguishing the truth. But it can also refer to the success or failure of Christianity in the world that Christ sent his disciples out to convert. So how is that going? Internal disagreements over some doctrines aside, Christianity is the largest religion on Earth, has been the most influential, and it is the most widespread. Satan has obviously not hushed up the Good News.

It could, but that makes absolutely zero sense. If that is what God had in mind, then everyone who claims to be Christians will go to Heaven which is contradictory to His written word. The Bible says, what the Bible says, doctrinal issues are not up for interpretation, per God's word. That being the case, There are 3 options. 1) You can be right. 2) I can be correct. 3) We can both be wrong. We can't all be correct. Else there would be no need to tell us to study to show thyself approved. Or that there's a way that seems right to man but the end there of is death.
In Him

 

[Albion]

It could, but that makes absolutely zero sense. If that is what God had in mind, then everyone who claims to be Christians will go to Heaven which is contradictory to His written word.

Wait a minute. You are reducing the promise that the gates of Hell will not prevail against the church to a promise that Christians will never make a mistake in doctrine or religious practice. That isn't what it means. It isn't a foolproof guarantee of every detail.

It means that Hell will not PREVAIL, i.e. win out, triumph over, conquer. It hasn't. Christianity remains the greatest religious success story in history and continues to win souls to Christ every day.

 

[Just_a_Christian]

Can you tell me the story of the "True Church" after Christ died?

The church experienced rapid growth after the Saviors death and Paul foretold of a falling away before the Lord returns. Paul further tells us that the process had already began when the epistle was written. Maybe you believe the falling away has yet to happen but God's word tells me otherwise. If you would like to rationally discuss this further via private conversation I'll be glad to.
In Him

 

[Albion]

The church experienced rapid growth after the Saviors death and Paul foretold of a falling away before the Lord returns. Paul further tells us that the process had already began when the epistle was written. Maybe you believe the falling away has yet to happen but God's word tells me otherwise. If you would like to rationally discuss this further via private conversation I'll be glad to.
In Him

Which denomination's teaching are you referring to there?

 

[Just_a_Christian]

Wait a minute. You are reducing the promise that the gates of Hell will not prevail against the church to a promise that Christians will never make a mistake in doctrine or religious practice. That isn't what it means. It isn't a foolproof guarantee of every detail.

It means that Hell will not PREVAIL, i.e. win out, triumph over, conquer. It hasn't. Christianity remains the greatest religious success story in history and continues to win souls to Christ every day.

I'm not reducing anything. Mistakes can be made but must be repented of. Maybe you should read my post #9

 

[Just_a_Christian]

Which denomination's teaching are you referring to there?

Every one that is false docttine. EVERY ONE!!

 

[bekkilyn]

Every one that is false docttine. EVERY ONE!!

Would you be able to give us a list of all of the perfect and infallible denominations so that we all know who we are referencing in this discussion when it comes to true Christians?