WHERE DOES IT SAY GOD'S SABBATH IS ABOLSIHED AND WE ARE COMMANDED TO KEEP SUNDAY AS A HOLY DAY?

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Rubbish. The SABBATH was made in GENESIS 2:1-3 and is the SEVENTH DAY of the CREATION WEEK that GOD BLESSED and made a HOLY DAY. God's WORD defines the SEVENTH DAY of the week as the SABBATH *EXODUS 20:10.
Exegete Genesis 2:1-3 word for word for us.
 
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Hello brother Cody nice to see you here and welcome.

Your post is my prayer for you and everyone here in this forum. God however advises us to examine ourselves to see if we really are in the faith *2 CORINTHIANS 13:5. Now if JESUS says to us that all those who FOLLOW the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of GOD are not following GOD *MATTHEW 15:3-9 Where in all of God's WORD does it say that God's 4th commandment has been abolished or no longer a requirement for christians today? If there is no scripture does this not worry you?

God bless
Eph 2:15 as I quoted.
 
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There is no purpose in FOLLOWING any of God's LAWs including the SABBATH if it is NOT done through FAITH that works by LOVE because it is ONLY as GOD writes his LAW to LOVE then we can take up our beds to follow him. LOVE is the fulfilling of GOd's LAW in those who BELIEVE (Rom 13:8-10). We follow JESUS because we LOVE him not because we believe are saved by what we do because we are all sinners in need of a Saviour and we can do nothing without God's Spirit working in and through us as we BELIEVE God's WORD.

God bless
Your personal ulterior motives are Rev 22:14 and the conversion of Christians your evangelizing.
 
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Absolutly Cody, good post. For me I believe God's people are in every Church. The Christian walk is a growing experience as God teaches us his WORD. As long as we are living up to all the knowledge Gid has revealed to us then we are God's people where ever we may be. God expects us to change as he reveals the truth of his Word to us so that we can have a closer walk with him and follow him. God is a Spirit and those who worship him must worship him in Spirit and in truth. God is calling his people back to follow him according to his Word and in times of Ignorance God winks at but when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come calls all men everywhere to repent and believe his Word *ACTS 17:30-31. Thanks for sharing Cody,

God bless
And your claim is one can only worship God in spirit and truth on Saturday your amended sabbath.
 
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Yes I did brother. I told you how I keep the Sabbath by faith in God's WORD in the second half of the post according to God's word. Answer is YES! I will add it clearly back into the previous post for you.
He's interested in what preform, not your faith.
 
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I fully understand your quotes.

The 7th day our Saturday isn't the sabbath.

The sabbath isn't our Saturday.

The word Sabbath (shabbat) doesn't appear in Genesis.

You can't successfully claim Moses was ignorant in Genesis and full of knowledge in Exodus. If Moses knew the word "shabat" in Genesis, he knnew the word "shabbat." The first is a verb meaning to cease and is used about the sabbath (shabbat) in Hosea.

The shabbat is a periodic rest/pause which God didn't participate in on the 7th day of creation. God fully stopped and this is His rest He swore Israel would never enter.

The word rest in Hebrew 4:9 is sabbatismos is a type of rest and has nothing to do with the sabbath. The subject of Heb 4 is rest, more specifically God's rest. The subject isn't the sabbath nor a physical periodic rest.

Jesus offered this rest to sabbath keeping Jews in Mat 11:28-30. This rest is only obtained thru Jesus. Yes you can say sabbatismos doesn't appear in Mat 11:28-30, but neither does katapausis. So if you want we can argue about the word that does appear - anapauō.
Shabath is the rest the Lord entered into on the seventh day to sanctify it as a Holy day(Genesis 2:2-3). It is the Same rest that we enter into on the seventh day.

7673. shabath
cause to, let, make to cease, celebrate, cause make to fail

A primitive root; to repose, i.e. Desist from exertion; used in many implied relations (causative, figurative or specific) -- (cause to, let, make to) cease, celebrate, cause (make) to fail, keep (sabbath), suffer to be lacking, leave, put away (down), (make to) rest, rid, still, take away.

Hebrews 4:9(when paired with verses 3,4,6,10,11) says it is speaking of the Same rest that the Lord entered into on the seventh day when he was finished with his works from the foundation of the world. So it is indeed speaking of the same rest given in multiple places in the bible(Hebrews 4:4,5,7), a physical rest from our own work that we may devote ourselves wholly to the Lord on that day(seventh day/Sabbath).


Hebrews 4:9 rest
greek 4520 sabbatismos
rest.

From a derivative of sabbaton; a "sabbatism", i.e. (figuratively) the repose of Christianity (as a type of heaven) -- rest.

which comes from the word
greek 4521 sabbaton
Sabbath day

Of Hebrew origin (shabbath); the Sabbath (i.e. Shabbath), or day of weekly repose from secular avocations (also the observance or institution itself); by extension, a se'nnight, i.e. The interval between two Sabbaths; likewise the plural in all the above applications -- sabbath (day), week.

which comes from
Hebrew Shabbath 7676
every Sabbath

Intensive from shabath; intermission, i.e (specifically) the Sabbath -- (+ every) sabbath.

which leads to
Hebrew 7673 Shabath
cause to, let, make to cease, celebrate, cause make to fail

A primitive root; to repose, i.e. Desist from exertion; used in many implied relations (causative, figurative or specific) -- (cause to, let, make to) cease, celebrate, cause (make) to fail, keep (sabbath), suffer to be lacking, leave, put away (down), (make to) rest, rid, still, take away.


The only thing being spoken of in Hebrews 4 up until verse 12 is the Sabbath day or seventh day rest. That those who came before us did not enter into because of unbelief(Hebrews 4:11).

Hebrews 4:1-11
Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.

2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.

3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.

4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.

5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.

6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:

7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.

8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.

9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.

10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.

11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.


Yes through/in the Lord we are refreshed and find rest. That is true, but Matt 11:28-30 does not say that he is the seventh day rest/Sabbath rest. Instead he says that in him we will find rest in our souls(Matt 11:29) a rest in our spirit that we cannot find apart from Christ. As the Lord has said there is no peace for the wicked(Isaiah 48:22).


Also remember Exodus 20:10 that the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord, as brother Bobryan pointed out already.
 
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Hello brother Kermos, thanks for posting your thoughts here. Some comments are provided below for your consideration.

Where have I ever posted that God did not give his law to Moses? If I have never said that God did not give his law to Moses why do you pretend here that I have? I have only stated to you and anyone else here that God's ETERNAL LAW (10 commandments) is the work of God alone the same as the SHADOW laws written in the BOOK of the law by was the work of MOSES guided by God's Spirit.
You believe God the Son gave Israel the law. You don't believe God the Father gave Israel (His wife) the law. So you have used sophistry in your statement by subbing in words so it appears you speak the truth. You only seek to confuse and deceive the ignorant by such.
Where have I ever posted that God's ETERNAL LAW (10 Commandments) is not referred to in the BOOK of the law of MOSES? If I have never said that God did not give his law to Moses why do you pretend here that I have? It is the BOOK of the law that states that GOD'S ETERNAL LAW (10 commandments) is not the law of MOSES but the work of GOD alone, spoken and written by God unlike the BOOK of the law which is the work of MOSES and written and spoken by Moses.
More of the same here. Your consistent claim is the famous 10 aren't part of the law of Moses. IOW you separate the famous 10 out of what you call the law of Moses.
Rubbish. God's WORD is only provided to show God's truth.
That's a misstatement. Your intent is to push the doctrine of your church. This is proved by your refusal to accept many quotes from both testaments as truth.
Only God's WORD is true and we should believe and follow it *ROMANS 3:4.
What does this passage have to do with the topic? You've posted it to me quite a bit unconnected to anything about the topic, just like here. Essentially you're calling this poster a liar with Scripture because they don't take up your view as their own. I don't know any pro grace poster engaging in this kind of behavior.
JESUS says all those who follow the teachings and traditions of men are not following God not me *MATTHEW 15:3-9.
So why are you following the amended version of the 4th commandment? Is that the Scripture or the tradition of people?
Now brother prove from the word of God alone that I have said anything here to decieve others. If you cannot then why pretend that I have?
It's been done since you started posting on CF. The record proves it.
This is only bearing false witness on your behalf as I have only provided God's WORD and have asked for God's WORD in response to the questions in this OP.
So you continue to make personal attacks on the posters.
If you have God's WORD then share it. If you do not have God's WORD then you only have your own words that argue with God's WORD. Where is the scriptures that say God's 4th commandment have been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day? 28 pages so far and not a single scripture. Does this not worry you?
You're asking a rhetorical question demanding specific words. You've been quoted Scripture even using the word abolished when it comes to the law (famous 10). Last I checked you promote the famous 10 include the sabbath you promote.
 
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You believe God the Son gave Israel the law. You don't believe God the Father gave Israel (His wife) the law. So you have used sophistry in your statement by subbing in words so it appears you speak the truth. You only seek to confuse and deceive the ignorant by such.More of the same here. Your consistent claim is the famous 10 aren't part of the law of Moses. IOW you separate the famous 10 out of what you call the law of Moses.That's a misstatement. Your intent is to push the doctrine of your church. This is proved by your refusal to accept many quotes from both testaments as truth.What does this passage have to do with the topic? You've posted it to me quite a bit unconnected to anything about the topic, just like here. Essentially you're calling this poster a liar with Scripture because they don't take up your view as their own. I don't know any pro grace poster engaging in this kind of behavior.So why are you following the amended version of the 4th commandment? Is that the Scripture or the tradition of people? It's been done since you started posting on CF. The record proves it. So you continue to make personal attacks on the posters. You're asking a rhetorical question demanding specific words. You've been quoted Scripture even using the word abolished when it comes to the law (famous 10). Last I checked you promote the famous 10 include the sabbath you promote.

Hmm all I see is your words arguing with God's. Did you have and scriptures to share brother?
 
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Exegete Genesis 2:1-3 word for word for us.

What would you like to know about it? Just reading the scriptures is clear enough. God finished his work of creation in six days and rested the SEVENTH DAY of the creation week and BLESSED the SEVENTH DAY of the WEEK and made the SEVENTH DAY of the week a HOLY DAY *GENESIS 2:1-3. God's WORD defines the SABBATH as the SEVENTH DAY of the week *EXODUS 20:10. Read the scriptures.
 
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Your personal ulterior motives are Rev 22:14 and the conversion of Christians your evangelizing.

My motives. For me, he must increase and I must decrease. I only point all to the Word of God because it is there we find the one who loves us that we may love him. I know him and am known by him. All that he shows me I see and must show to all because I am blind. He tells me it is those that see that do not see. These are they that have once known him or do not know him. Who am I that he should choose me out of the world? I am no one but he is all. If I did not believe him I would not know him. What can I do without him? He is love and now I love. I follow him now because I love him who first loved me. You say that I have not answered you, but I indeed answered you with His Word but you do not hear him because you have chosen not to hear his Word to you. I do not judge you but His Word will judge us because they are there for all to see. All are welcome to see and hear God's Word, however many are called but few are chosen. Do you know these scriptures brother?
 
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Do not commit adultery. Yes! In the Spirit of God, lovingly live fidelity just as Christ with His Bride.
(Deuteronomy 5:18, Luke 18:20, Ephesians 5:25)

Do not murder. Yes! In the Spirit of God, lovingly proclaim Life to the perishing.
(Deuteronomy 5:17, Luke 18:20, Luke 10:9)

Do not steal. Yes! In the Spirit of God, lovingly give, give, give.
(Deuteronomy 5:19, Luke 18:20, Luke 16:19-31, Luke 18:22)

Do not bear false witness. Yes! In the Spirit of God, lovingly tell the truth about the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, even if it leads to persecution from the listener.
(Deuteronomy 5:20, Luke 18:20, Matthew 5:9-12)

Honor your father and mother. Yes! In the Spirit of God, lovingly honor your biological mother and father; moreover, honor your Father who is in heaven and your mother, the Bride of Christ, who heralded to you the Truth of the Good News of the Lord Jesus Christ, love one another such that the Assembly of God's love be a witness of Jesus Christ visible to the world, so it will go well with you in the Promise.
(Deuteronomy 5:16, Luke 18:20, Matthew 23:9, John 13:34-35 1 Timothy 3:15)

Do not have any other God's before the One True God. Yes! In the Spirit of God, love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.
(Deuteronomy 5:7, Deuteronomy 6:4, Matthew 22:37).

His Law is Love, and His Gospel is Peace.
 
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Let's follow the teaching of Jesus.

In Mark 7:6-13 Jesus begins with "in vain do they worship Me" -- what was his complaint about them?
Well Yes ..It was very much the same in Isiah's day and in Amos' time ..solemn assemblies or they invented instruments of music like unto David ...doing lot's of things which they took to be worship but truth was far from them and their heart was cold both toward God and each other . It seems not much has changed . We can not love God unless we know Him . And we can not know Him unless we spend time with Him . We may build buildings on every street corner and call them by His name but God dwelleth not in a house built with hands ...it is ( or may be ) vanity or vain . Unless the Lord build the house , they who labor , labor in vain . I believe that Faith is God wrought thus a man must be born again ..not by the will of man but by the will of God . Only that which is from God is worthy of God. But we hold this treasure in earthen vessels .
We call gathering worship but is it ? Traditions are like comfort food . Familiar . But the cross of Christ is unfamiliar . Abram left all that was familiar to go to a promised land which he had never seen. Of course my opinion does not matter unless it is contrary to God's will . I do believe that Christ came so that we can be reconciled to the Father ...that we can worship and make every day holy verses keeping one day holy. To pursue the world and keep a Saturday Sabbath verses pursuing the world and observing a Sunday worship is not considerably different I would not suppose ..It just gives us something to disagree about . I no longer give myself to novels but I remember in the Hobbit the scene where the trolls argued about the best way to cook a hobbitt until the sun rose and they were turned to stone . I wonder if we shall be discussing these things when Christ shall return suddenly . Obviously some think to observe the right day is paramount to loving God and critical to our salvation and others esteem each day alike . ( Romans 14:5 )
 
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Indeed, but the Priests are held guiltless the scripture says because they are doing God's WORK and not doing their own work. God's WORK is not doing our own work brother. Of course it is ok to do Good on the Sabbath. This is the teachings of JESUS *MATTHEW 12:1-12. No one has rest while KNOWINGLY breaking any one of Gods Commandments.

God bless.
Well yes ...we are slaves ( Praise God ! ) to a worthy master ,who bought us by His unspeakable gift .. called to be saints . Part of the royal priesthood . We are no longer slaves to the world of storing up earthly treasures ( the dust and ashes of a future day ) but dying that He may live . Haven given up the deceitful and time consuming career aspirations , we make ourselves of no reputation ...working with our hands that which is good so that we may have to give to those who have need .
Yes , our temporal work , is only in support of the Kingdom of God . I think of the parable I call the "Burn Barrel " regarding the man who went out the first hour of the day looking for laborers ... I am not opposed to gathering together for instruction, edification and prayer but I do not consider this worship per se ..maybe it is only my calling but I am concerned with all of the oxen stuck in the mire of the world. May the Lord Jesus bless you as well .
 
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What ever you do , do all in the name of the Lord . The priest profane the sabbath by working on the sabbath . is it not ok to do well on the sabbath ? Brother , there are so many lost people and so little time left ( I believe ) I work every day unto the Lord . ...there are soooo many in the ditch . I will have my rest when Jesus returns .

Let's follow the teaching of Jesus.

In Mark 7:6-13 Jesus begins with "in vain do they worship Me" -- what was his complaint about them?

Well Yes ..It was very much the same in Isiah's day and in Amos' time ..solemn assemblies or they invented instruments of music like unto David ...doing lot's of things which they took to be worship but truth was far from them and their heart was cold both toward God and each other . It seems not much has changed . We can not love God unless we know Him . And we can not know Him unless we spend time with Him .

Certainly a lot of true statements there - but in the actual Mark 7:6-13 statement of Christ - He is very specific.

Mark 7
6 And He said to them, “Rightly did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written:

‘This people honors Me with their lips,
But their heart is far away from Me.
7 ‘But in vain do they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the precepts of men.’
8 Neglecting the commandment of God, you hold to the tradition of men.”
9 He was also saying to them, “You are experts at setting aside the commandment of God in order to keep your tradition. 10 For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘He who speaks evil of father or mother, is to be put to death’; 11 but you say, ‘If a man says to his father or his mother, whatever I have that would help you is Corban (that is to say, given to God),’ 12 you no longer permit him to do anything for his father or his mother; 13 thus invalidating the word of God by your tradition which you have handed down; and you do many things such as that.”

we can worship and make every day holy verses keeping one day holy.

The Bible says "God made it holy" Ex 20:11 Gen 2:3 ... it does not say "man made it holy".

When can choose to keep holy - (that is to comply with and honor) that which God has made holy ... or not.

But we cannot make something holy -- only God can.

"The 7th day is the Sabbath of the LORD (yhwh) " Ex 20:10

To pursue the world and keep a Saturday Sabbath verses pursuing the world and observing a Sunday worship is not considerably different I would not suppose

If man is the author of scripture, the author of the commandments - the author of the Sabbath -- and man makes it holy... then you are right.

Jesus addresses that idea of commandments of men vs commandments of God in Mark 7.
 
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Do not commit adultery. Yes! In the Spirit of God, lovingly live fidelity just as Christ with His Bride.
(Deuteronomy 5:18, Luke 18:20, Ephesians 5:25)

Do not murder. Yes! In the Spirit of God, lovingly proclaim Life to the perishing.
(Deuteronomy 5:17, Luke 18:20, Luke 10:9)

Do not steal. Yes! In the Spirit of God, lovingly give, give, give.
(Deuteronomy 5:19, Luke 18:20, Luke 16:19-31, Luke 18:22)

Do not bear false witness. Yes! In the Spirit of God, lovingly tell the truth about the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, even if it leads to persecution from the listener.
(Deuteronomy 5:20, Luke 18:20, Matthew 5:9-12)

Honor your father and mother. Yes! In the Spirit of God, lovingly honor your biological mother and father; moreover, honor your Father who is in heaven and your mother, the Bride of Christ, who heralded to you the Truth of the Good News of the Lord Jesus Christ, love one another such that the Assembly of God's love be a witness of Jesus Christ visible to the world, so it will go well with you in the Promise.
(Deuteronomy 5:16, Luke 18:20, Matthew 23:9, John 13:34-35 1 Timothy 3:15)

Do not have any other God's before the One True God. Yes! In the Spirit of God, love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.
(Deuteronomy 5:7, Deuteronomy 6:4, Matthew 22:37).

His Law is Love, and His Gospel is Peace.

Hello brother nice to see you again.

You cannot separate God's ETERNAL LAW (10 commandments) from LOVE because OBEDIENCE to GOD's LAW through FAITH is how God's LOVE is expressed.

ROMANS 13:8-10
[8], Owe no man anything, but to love one another: for he that loves another has fulfilled the law. [9], For this, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not kill, You shall not steal, You shall not bear false witness, You shall not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is summed up in this saying, namely, You shall love your neighbor as yourself. [10], Love works no ill to his neighbor: therefore, love is the fulfilling [DOING] of the law.

The practical application here can be seen in these examples.

LOVE GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART MIND AND SOUL (Deuteronomy 6:5)

* If you love God will you have other gods before him? (Exodus 20:3)
* If you love God will you make yourself idols and worship them? (Exodus 20:4-5)
* If you love God will you take his name in vain (Exodus 20:7)
* If you love God will you forget his Sabbath memorial of creation? (Exodus 20:8-11)

LOVE YOUR NEIGHBORE AS YOURSELF (Leviticus 19:18)

* If you love your neighbor will you dishonor your parents? (Exodus 20:12)
* If you love your neighbor will you kill him? (Exodus 20:13)
* If you love your neighbor will you commit adultery with their spouse? (Exodus 20:14)
* If you love your neighbor will you steal from them? (Exodus 20:15)
* If you love your neighbor will you lie to them? (Exodus 20:16)
* If you love your neighbor will you covet or be jealous of them? (Exodus 20:17).

OBEDIENCE to God's LAW is not how we are saved it is the FRUIT of God's work in us as we BELIEVE and FOLLOW his WORD. If our faith has no fruit it is dead *JAMES 2:18-20; 26 and our tree will be cast down and thrown into the fire *MATTHEW 3:10; 7:19-20; 13:49-50. We are saved by GRACE through faith and not of ourselves it is a gift of God *EPHESIANS 2:8. We are all sick with sin and need a Physician *MATTHEW 9:12-13 and need to be BORN AGAIN and changed from the INSIDE OUT.

What does Jesus say when he talks about the commandments and love? Jesus is quoting from Old testament scriptures of Deuteronomy 6:5 and Leviticus 19:18.
in MATTHEW let's have a look...

MATTHEW 22:36-40
[36], Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
[37], Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
[38], This is the first and great commandment.
[39], And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.
[40], ON THESE TWO COMMANDMENTS HANG ALL THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS.

JESUS does not separate LOVE to GOD and man from God's 10 commandments. He says on these two great commandments of LOVE hang all the law and the prophets. Let's get clearer...

MATTHEW 19:16-21
[16], And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
[17], And he said unto him, Why call thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: BUT IF YOU WILL ENTER INTO LIFE KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS.
[18], He saith unto him, WHICH? JESUS SAID, THOU SHALT NOT MURDER, THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, THOU SHALT NOT STEAL, THOU SHALT NOT LIE, HONOR YOU MOTHER AND FATHER AND THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF
[20], The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?

[21], Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. <Jesus showed him that he may have fulfilled His duty of love to his neighbor but not to God breaking commandment 1 and 2 loving riches more than God>

Well Jesus makes it very clear that what he is talking about it is the 10 commandments of God's Law.

What about James...

JAMES 2:8-12
[8], If ye fulfill the royal law according to the scripture, THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF, ye do well:
[9], But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
[10], FOR WHOSOEVER SHALL KEEP THE WHOLE LAW AND YET OFFEND IN ONE POINT, HE SHALL BE GUILTY OF ALL.
[11], FOR HE THAT SAID, DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY SAID ALSO DO NOT KILL. NOW IF YOU DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY AND YOU KILL, YOU HAVE BECOME A TRANSGRESSOR OF GOD'S LAW
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[12], So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

Well James makes it very clear what he is talking about when he talks about the Royal Law of love. He is talking about the 10 commandments. So Jesus and James both agree that they are talking about God's 10 commandments which also include the 4th commandment which is one of the ten.

What your missing here and not seeing is the NEW COVENANT promise of LOVE written in the heart is expressed through God's LAW not apart from it.

HEBREWS 8:10-12
[10], For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, said the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
[11], And they shall not teach every man his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
[12], For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

We need to be BORN again to LOVE brother in order to receive the NEW COVENANT promise walk in God's LAW which is the very expression of what LOVE is. This is why JESUS says...

JOHN 3:3-8
[3], Jesus answered and said to him, Truly, truly, I say to you, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
[4], Nicodemus said to him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
[5], Jesus answered, Truly, truly, I say to you, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
[6], That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

NOTE: what PAUL says that ties in nicely with what JESUS is teaching here about why we will not see the kingdom of Heaven if we live in the flesh (carnal mind; sinful human nature) in ROMANS 8:13 For if you live after the flesh, you shall die: but if you through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, you shall live.

[7], Marvel not that I said to you, You must be born again.
[8], The wind blows where it wants, and you hear the sound thereof, but can not tell from where it comes, and where it goes: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

Now brother the question is why do we need to be Born again in the Spirit? As partly answered in ROMANS 8:13 above, if we live in the flesh (carnal mind; sinful human nature) we will die because the wages of sin is death to all those who reject the gift of God's dear son *ROMANS 6:23.

Let's look at what it means to be Born again and to walk in God's Spirit and the difference between the children of God and the children of the devil...

1 JOHN 3:3-10
[3], And every man that has this hope in him purifies himself, even as he is pure.
[4], Whoever commits sin transgresses also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
[5], And you know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
[6], Whoever abides in him sins not: whoever sins has not seen him, neither known him.

NOTE: how v6 ties in with 1 JOHN 2:1-4.

[7], Little children, let no man deceive you: he that does righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
[8], He that commits sin is of the devil; for the devil sins from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

NOTE: What is JESUS coming to destroy? The works of the devil which is sin v8

[9], Whoever is born of God does not commit sin; for his seed remains in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

NOTE: If we are BORN of GOD we are not practicing sin. WHY? because God's seed remains in us through faith. This is abiding in him and not sinning (known sin). What is the seed that needs to abide in us so we do not sin? *LUKE 8:11 Now this is the parable the seed is the Word of God.

[10], In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil (Not sinning and committing sin): whoever does not righteousness is not of God (PSALMS 119:172 All my commandments are righteousness), neither he that loves not his brother.

Can you see brother you cannot separate LOVE from God's LAW?

God's 10 commandments are the very expression of what God's LOVE is. We are not saved by keeping God's LAW we are saved by faith in God's WORD as LOVE is expressed through us *EPHESIANS 2:8. Walking in the Spirit brings the fruit of faith which is LOVE and OBEDIENCE to God's LAW *GALATIONS 5:16; ROMANS 8:1-4; ROMANS 3:31; ROMANS 13:8-10.

RIGHTESOUSNESS comes from LOVE because LOVE is the fulfilling of God's LAW and the very expression of what LOVE is *ROMANS 13:8-10. He that does not LOVE does not KNOW GOD for GOD IS LOVE * 1 JOHN 4:8. All those who are BORN AGAIN have a NEW HEART TO LOVE and FOLLOW GOD *1 JOHN 4:7. This is the NEW COVENANT promise *HEBREWS 8:10-12. Those who are BORN AGAIN do not practice SIN (breaking God's Commandments) *1 JOHN 3:4-9. This is why JOHN finishes on this subject by saying; For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous *1 JOHN 5:3 and is why JESUS says IF you LOVE me KEEP my commandments *JOHN 14:15. UNLESS we are BORN AGAIN under the NEW COVENANT to LOVE we will not enter the KINGDOM of HEAVEN *JOHN 3:3-7. We need to be changed from the INSIDE OUT.

Hope this helps.
 
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