Swamp Draining Status?

[LoAmmi]

So much more to it than that.

But it's a start. Can you prove that isn't ongoing? That it has nothing to do with the Clinton Foundation?

That is not even the surface... but can you PROVE nothing is going on as you keep asserting?

Because I am presenting evidence to the contrary.

You have not presented evidence saying it has anything to do with those things. You've connected law firms to a criminal website. Giant law firms have lots of clients and if one of them is the go-to law firm for Democrats, then Democrats will be there.

So, if in 2020, none of these people have been arrested or whatever, will you admit you were wrong?

 

[LostMarbels]

So, if in 2020, none of these people have been arrested or whatever, will you admit you were wrong?

Stop worrying about how you can get me to admit Im wrong and look into the information to see if I'm wrong. You keep talking about 'evidence' when in reality you're just looking from some chink in what was presented so you can claim victory. How am I supposed to prove what you are determined to discredit?

 

[LoAmmi]

Stop worrying about how you can get me to admit Im wrong and look into the information to see if I'm wrong. You keep talking about 'evidence' when in reality you're just looking from some chink in what was presented so you can claim victory. How am I supposed to prove what you are determined to discredit?

I don't have to find a chink in your armor. You have no armor. The Emperor's New Clothes ring a bell?

These arrests and stuff should be very public, right? With major political players being arrested. I gave you a year. Not willing to take that?

 

[LostMarbels]

And you contend that because a law firm represents some criminals that all it’s other clients are criminals?

No. I am claiming there is a commonality between multiple individuals and/or organizations represented in different cases, that are implicated together in this case. The same figures keep appearing in the same lawsuits together concerning different topics. Every single one of those topics are the ones silenced or banned from social media/MSM or spun. Including Uranium One. Muller Investigation. The Steele dossier. And so on. How many commonalities do you need before you become complicit or conspiratorial in other related issues? Were talking some 20 different cases... same people/organisations over and over. But in this one, they are all present.

 

[Albion]

This is to all the Trump supporters.

One of Trump's big slogans in the campaign was "Drain the Swamp", implying an intent to remove corruption from the halls of the capital. Roughly two years on, I was hoping that some of his supporters (or non-supporters, too) could describe for me some of the progress that his administration has made in rooting out corruption that doesn't directly impact or target him - IOW, where has he tackled corruption for the sake of tackling corruption, not because that corruption was somehow making his life more difficult? (e.g. Firing Peter Strzok doesn't count.)

It's no secret that I don't like the guy, but if he's done something good on this front, then I'm more than happy to give credit where it's due.

From time to time, we get reports of significant reform having been made through the president's initiative. Unfortunately, the major news outlets (plus HuffPost, MSNBC, Vanity Fair and other such media) have little interest in publicizing this news. In part, that may be because cleaning house of corrupt bureaucrats or making policy changes are ordinarily not considered very sexy, but these things also do not fit well with the purposes for which those outfits exist.

 

[LostMarbels]

These arrests and stuff should be very public, right?

They will be. However at this point in time you cannot even discuss certain topics without facing a ban. If you do not believe the media is also trying to censor topics you are mistaken. Even here... certain topics are against the rules. Don't try to play like no one is being censored.

I gave you a year. Not willing to take that?

That means nothing to me. Nothing. In my own mind your are not in some higher position to offer lowly o'l me anything. You think I need a way out? Do I seem afraid or abashed to make the statements I do? If you find me frail, you are sadly mistaken.

I cannot, and will not, set to a date I have no factual basis for.

 

[cow451]

No. I am claiming there is a commonality between multiple individuals and/or organizations represented in different cases, that are implicated together in this case. The same figures keep appearing in the same lawsuits together concerning different topics. Every single one of those topics are the ones silenced or banned from social media/MSM or spun. Including Uranium One. Muller Investigation. The Steele dossier. And so on. How many commonalities do you need before you become complicit or conspiratorial in other related issues? Were talking some 20 different cases... same people/organisations over and over. But in this one, they are all present.

The MSM, the most useless term since “minor surgery”, has not stifled anything. Otherwise you wouldn’t find these “secret” documents. The Internet in the free world cannot be stifled that way.

You make connections that have illogical conclusions. Cain and Herman Cain aren’t connected because they are both named “Cain”, for example.

 

[LostMarbels]

The MSM, the most useless term since “minor surgery”, has not stifled anything. Otherwise you wouldn’t find these “secret” documents. The Internet in the free world cannot be stifled that way.

That is true to a point. However you can berate, intimidate, and confuse issues to a point where some cannot discern what is true. This holds true with individuals as well. You can attack some people with such ferocity that they just stop speaking, or get with the program. I'm not one of those people. I live for this.

I am an individual that believes they will be on bended knee before an all Holy God, and have to give account for what I have posted on this forum. I have not beared false witness. I have not tried to deceive. I am honestly speaking the truth to the best of my understanding and ability. Because I know I will be judged. I am not here to win points. I am here to speak the truth to any who will listen.

If I am in error then teach me my error and I will learn, but do not despise truth because it is inconvenient. If I am wrong show me, prove your point, and I will concede; having become wiser.

You make connections that have illogical conclusions. Cain and Herman Cain aren’t connected because they are both named “Cain”, for example.

I did not start any of the investigations in question. Not a one. I have not indicted a single individual, or preside over them in court. I did not make the connections you are pointing out. I only presented what is being done to drain the 'perceived' swamp in relation to the conversation at hand.

 

[LoAmmi]

They will be. However at this point in time you cannot even discuss certain topics without facing a ban. If you do not believe the media is also trying to censor topics you are mistaken. Even here... certain topics are against the rules. Don't try to play like no one is being censored.



That means nothing to me. Nothing. In my own mind your are not in some higher position to offer lowly o'l me anything. You think I need a way out? Do I seem afraid or abashed to make the statements I do? If you find me frail, you are sadly mistaken.

I cannot, and will not, set to a date I have no factual basis for.

As they say where I live...


Bless your heart.

 

[LostMarbels]

As they say where I live...


Bless your heart.

And that has nothing at all to do with the conversation. Do you not have a single shred of anything to support your assertions? You're looking so forward to seeing me fail, and admit to being wrong. Based on what? Show me where I am wrong. Present you argument.

 

[LoAmmi]

And that has nothing at all to do with the conversation. Do you not have a single shred of anything to support your assertions? You're looking so forward to seeing me fail, and admit to being wrong. Based on what? Show me where I am wrong. Present you argument.

I cannot prove a negative. impossible.

But because I'm omniscient, I can confirm that you are wrong.

 

[LostMarbels]

I cannot prove a negative. impossible.

Welcome to the club.

I'm not asking you to prove a negative. I would like to know what facts you base your assertions on at least. You are so eager to see me fail. What is that based on?

 

[super animator]

The “evidence” would be from sources whose citation is a violation of TOS.

Which is my major pet peeve with this site. It ridiculous that we are being treated like children, even in the context of a debate.

 

[whatbogsends]

The MSM, the most useless term since “minor surgery”, has not stifled anything. Otherwise you wouldn’t find these “secret” documents. The Internet in the free world cannot be stifled that way.

You make connections that have illogical conclusions. Cain and Herman Cain aren’t connected because they are both named “Cain”, for example.

Moreover, outlets like FoxNews would be all over them if they were even passably legitimate. Hannity would be screaming this from the rooftops if there were an ounce of truth to it.

But somehow, the contention is that it's all being silenced by the Mean Stream Media and Deeeeeep State.

 

[cow451]

Which is my major pet peeve with this site. It ridiculous that we are being treated like children, even in the context of a debate.

Dems da rules. I don’t agree with all of them but anyone that has been on a debate team will tell you there are rules there.

 

[cow451]

That is true to a point. However you can berate, intimidate, and confuse issues to a point where some cannot discern what is true. This holds true with individuals as well. You can attack some people with such ferocity that they just stop speaking, or get with the program. I'm not one of those people. I live for this.

I am an individual that believes they will be on bended knee before an all Holy God, and have to give account for what I have posted on this forum. I have not beared false witness. I have not tried to deceive. I am honestly speaking the truth to the best of my understanding and ability. Because I know I will be judged. I am not here to win points. I am here to speak the truth to any who will listen.

If I am in error then teach me my error and I will learn, but do not despise truth because it is inconvenient. If I am wrong show me, prove your point, and I will concede; having become wiser.



I did not start any of the investigations in question. Not a one. I have not indicted a single individual, or preside over them in court. I did not make the connections you are pointing out. I only presented what is being done to drain the 'perceived' swamp in relation to the conversation at hand.

You seem to be making assertions that the investigations aren’t even making. Correct me if I misunderstand but how is Mueller connected with Page Six? You seem to think all these people are part of some cabal.

I’ve got no beef with any legit investigation and would be quite pleased if Hillary and Donald got to wear the same orange jumpsuits.

 

[LostMarbels]

You seem to be making assertions that the investigations aren’t even making.

And you base this understanding on what evidentiary facts from your own view concerning this lawsuit? What brings you to that conclusion?

Correct me if I misunderstand but how is Mueller connected with Page Six?

Not following you here. There are only 4 pages in the document, and the post is on page 7... so what is page six? Honest question.

You seem to think all these people are part of some cabal.

Muller, Hillary, The DNC, The Clinton Foundation, Steele Dossier, Uranium one, FISA warrants on then candidate Trump, Fusion GPS, Anthony Weiner's laptop, Podesta emails, Rigging Bernie Sanders election, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Huma Abedin, Benghazi, and The email servers, are all consisting of the same individuals or actors, and in every one of them, Perkins Coie Played a role.

Some sort of cabal? All the same people, with the same representation involved in different illegal activities currently under investigation... and you think it is some 'sort' of cabal? Sort of... maybe..

If the same individuals were related by association concerning some 20 bank robberies, and they all used the same representation to get off... you think that is unrelated? Even tho every one of them are implicated in each others cases?

So here we have around 20 cases that have the same exact actors implicated in each others cases... and we are to believe they are not in cahoots? And low and behold... the same law firm that gets massive kickbacks and donations has represented them thru it all.

I’ve got no beef with any legit investigation and would be quite pleased if Hillary and Donald got to wear the same orange jumpsuits.

I sincerely believe you are hoping for a result that will never happen. President Trump has been cleared already. We have moved past the point of facts and have entered a manic state of hatred. People honestly just want him to be guilty. Facts aren't needed. Just hang him and they would be happy. His supporters too. That is the truth.

 

[cow451]

And you base this understanding on what evidentiary facts from your own view concerning this lawsuit? What brings you to that conclusion?



Not following you here. There are only 4 pages in the document, and the post is on page 7... so what is page six? Honest question.



Muller, Hillary, The DNC, The Clinton Foundation, Steele Dossier, Uranium one, FISA warrants on then candidate Trump, Fusion GPS, Anthony Weiner's laptop, Podesta emails, Rigging Bernie Sanders election, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Huma Abedin, Benghazi, and The email servers, are all consisting of the same individuals or actors, and in every one of them, Perkins Coie Played a role.

Some sort of cabal? All the same people, with the same representation involved in different illegal activities currently under investigation... and you think it is some 'sort' of cabal? Sort of... maybe..

If the same individuals were related by association concerning some 20 bank robberies, and they all used the same representation to get off... you think that is unrelated? Even tho every one of them are implicated in each others cases?

So here we have around 20 cases that have the same exact actors implicated in each others cases... and we are to believe they are not in cahoots? And low and behold... the same law firm that gets massive kickbacks and donations has represented them thru it all.



I sincerely believe you are hoping for a result that will never happen. President Trump has been cleared already. We have moved past the point of facts and have entered a manic state of hatred. People honestly just want him to be guilty. Facts aren't needed. Just hang him and they would be happy. His supporters too. That is the truth.

My bad. I meant Back Page. So what does Mueller have to do with Back Page?

You’ve decided all of Trumps enemies are doing every evil imaginable. And all of the indictments and pleas by Trump-connected criminals don’t count. OK. We’ll wait and see how it all plays out.

 

[LostMarbels]

I'm watching the president on Fox who supposedly removed his rallies from all platforms... I will get back to you when the rally is over. I'm also watching that other guy Whatshisname.

 

[Pommer]

Ooo!
Is this here one of them
“Complete lack of evidence just shows how far this [EVIL THING HERE] and the conspiracy to cover up [ETH] GOES!” threads?!