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Flat Earth - It's NOT Ridiculous

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Flat earthers believe that the world looks like this. The route from London to New York is not the main problem. It's Southern Hemisphere routes that are the problem. Sydney to Santiago, for example.

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Why do flat earth people say that the two white spots are really cold?
 
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Why do flat earth people say that the two white spots are really cold?

They have this strange "the sun is a spotlight" theory. It kind of works for the northern hemisphere. It doesn't work for the southern hemisphere at all.

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When the record distance microwave transmission was completed at a distance impossible on the globe due to line of sight, it's not unreasonable to assume there is no curve.

Looks like this one is another case of YouTube scholarship and thanks to Metabrunk for doing this one as well. The claim that the transmission was impossible on the actual earth is based solely on a claim made by a YouTube narrator.
Claim: 146 Mile Microwave Transmission Proves Flat Earth
This product is a line-of-sight microwave link which is basically a straight line over water (The Mediterranean Sea) to a receiver on the other end, 150 miles away. There should be three miles of curvature but this LINE-OF-SIGHT connection is mounted at less than fifty feet on both ends. I spoke to them today to confirm this and didn’t bring up the reason why. I told them I was just impressed with their accomplishment and wanted to learn about the equipment and the installation. It is as advertised, a straight line over 235km of water, point to point, no repeaters. Again, skip to the last paragraph unless you’re technical and interested."​

The problem is there's no evidence that the transmitters were mounted at less than fifty feet. The transmission was across the Leventine sea from Lebanon to Cyprus. As the folks on Metabunk show, there are locations on both sides that are 900m, well above what would be needed to compensate for he curvature of the earth. Also the guy is full of it when he mentions calling them.
 
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He had to get out when he couldn’t present any evidence and couldn’t explain common sense.
A very convenient holiday. He vanished suddenly the last time I pointed out that his posting history doesn't match his posting claims.
 
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Very pc and appropriate title. Seriously, who uses that word anymore? Especially in genuine conversation...
Saying something is "retarded" is so gay.
 
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OK. So, how do flat earthers account for the journey from Sydney to Santiago? (I won't be looking at any more daft video-lectures.)

They deny that any direct flights actually exist, and claim such flight listings are part of the globe earth conspiracy.

Like all conspiracy nutters all evidence contrary to their views must always be dismissed as being part of the conspiracy.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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I wonder why they don't just take a direct flight themselves and find out. You know, they get on a plane in Atlanta and then end up in China and they never got out of the plane, so how would they explain they arrived in China other than that it was a direct flight to there?
 
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I wonder why they don't just take a direct flight themselves and find out. You know, they get on a plane in Atlanta and then end up in China and they never got out of the plane, so how would they explain they arrived in China other than that it was a direct flight to there?

Some direct flights exist. But others don't exist. They deny direct flights between Sydney and Santiago, at least those who believe the azimuthal equidistant projection is an accurate depiction of the flat earth, because their argument is that multi-stop flights only make sense on a flat earth because if you draw a line on an azimuthal equidistant projection map some of those stops look like flat lines; such doesn't happen with direct flights from Sydney to Santiago. Conclusion: No direct flights exist between Sydney and Santiago, and all flight listings are fake.

At the end of the day it's important to understand that the use of any kind of reason here isn't going to work. Those who have walked well down the rabbit hole have forfeited any semblance of reason, and won't believe evidence even with their own eyes.

I am convinced that you could take such a person up on a rocket to the ISS and they could do a space walk, see the earth's curvature with their own two eyes, and they would still argue that they never visited the space station, were never in space, and that the earth still has no curve. And any manner of objections will be raised, no matter how ridiculous, outlandish, or plain stupid they are. "I didn't go up in a rocket to space and see the earth, I was given top secret hallucinogenic drugs by NASA and they fed faked images and memories into my brain." I made that idea right up on the spot, but that's the point, any explanation other than the bona fide objective truth of observable reality will be clung to in order to maintain the delusion.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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What are you trying to imply to me?

Nvm I don't care, it's not important.

A joke intended to highlight the inappropriateness of the thread's title as your own post had pointed out originally. This was done by using another inappropriate (at least in the context it was made) term.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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OK. So, how do flat earthers account for the journey from Sydney to Santiago?

They simply claim that QF 27 and QF 28 do not exist, and that every single person that has taken those flights is part of the conspiracy.

Qantas QF28 from Santiago (SCL) to Sydney (SYD) - Flightera

But I've taken the other flight that "doesn't exist" (Sydney to Johannesburg, past Antarctica), so obviously I'm part of the conspiracy too. And, btw, here's someone else's video of THAT flight:

 
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I am convinced that you could take such a person up on a rocket to the ISS and they could do a space walk, see the earth's curvature with their own two eyes, and they would still argue that they never visited the space station, were never in space, and that the earth still has no curve. And any manner of objections will be raised, no matter how ridiculous, outlandish, or plain stupid they are. "I didn't go up in a rocket to space and see the earth, I was given top secret hallucinogenic drugs by NASA and they fed faked images and memories into my brain."

Probably. Flat-earthism is a serious, and increasingly common, mental illness.
 
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Some direct flights exist. But others don't exist.

Speaking as an Australian, once the Perth-London flight is up and running, we'll have direct commercial flights to every continent except Antarctica (and there are chartered sightseeing flights over Antarctica too).

But flights are based on demand as well as on distance; obviously not every pair of cities has a direct flight.

their argument is that multi-stop flights only make sense on a flat earth because if you draw a line on an azimuthal equidistant projection map some of those stops look like flat lines; such doesn't happen with direct flights from Sydney to Santiago

The three problems with Sydney to Santiago and Sydney to Johannesburg flights on a flat earth are (1) that they are even possible, (2) the time they take, and (3) the fact that they fly close to Antarctica on the way.
 
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