How does one correctly keep the Sabbath according to SDA doctrine?

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Matthew 28:1: ……..
"Now after the Sabbath, as the first day of the week began to dawn, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to see the tomb." Matthew wrote these words, under inspiration of the Holy Spirit, several years after the New Testament church came into being.

Mis-translations, and especially when accompanied with mis-interpretations and false traditions and practices and dogmas, accompanied with false knowledge of the customs and the times and the language, accompanied with missing harmony with all Scripture and missing harmony with God's Plan and God's Purpose in Christ Jesus,
has
led many to downfall, error, and a multitude of troubles.

As written "If anyone thinks they know something, they know nothing yet"
and "Beware if you think you stand, lest you fall"....

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Some would argue that Paul was at the synagogue only because that is where he would find people to witness to...not to observe the Sabbath. But the scripture does not say that.

Jesus always went to either Temple or Synagogue on the 7th Day Sabbath,
as did His students with Him.

As did all the Righteous Jews before Him.

Did they go to find people to witness to ? No.

They obeyed ABBA YAHWEH.

Simple.

 

[mmksparbud]

NO, of course not, but that is not the point is it???

The point was that CHURCH ATTENDANCE was never the focus of the commandment!

There were no churches at creation or even after the fall---they gathered together in prayer and sacrifices at first--after the resurrection it still took a while for churches to develop--they met in groups wherever they could, homes, buildings, riverbanks. You expected God to say you shall gather in churches to honor and praise me and not work?

 

[mmksparbud]

I am always amazed at people like yourself, who when are challenged go and copy and paste these LONG productions as if a lot of words proves your point.

NO ONE ever reads stuff like you just copied and pasted.

so---remain ignorant---not my problem. I just post what is relevant. If it's truth anyone wants--it is available, it takes a little effort besides sitting in pews and being told what to believe.

 

[mmksparbud]

You are WRONG! Your question was answered previously.

Post #86...………..
Source:"Early Writings of Ellen G. White," page 33.

Arthur S. Maxwell, the editor of Signs of the Times, a leading Seventh-day Adventist journal, admits the Sabbath observance was started by a small following in the former Miller group that restudied the prophecies after the Miller group melted away.
He writes:...…
"Accepting the Sabbath truth from the Seventh-day Baptists, they became the nucleus of the Seventh-day Adventist movement....''

That does not address all those that came way before --St. Patrick was in 400 AD. And there were more way before then, from the disciples on.

 

[mmksparbud]

Matthew 28:1: ……..
"Now after the Sabbath, as the first day of the week began to dawn, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to see the tomb." Matthew wrote these words, under inspiration of the Holy Spirit, several years after the New Testament church came into being.

Yes--it says on the first day of the week Mary found out Jesus was risen--she had gone there to finish the preparation of the body---and what is your point? It doesn't say a thing about changing to Sunday worship--several years after the resurrection they still hadn't said a word about changing to Sunday worship.

 

[Major1]

There were no churches at creation or even after the fall---they gathered together in prayer and sacrifices at first--after the resurrection it still took a while for churches to develop--they met in groups wherever they could, homes, buildings, riverbanks. You expected God to say you shall gather in churches to honor and praise me and not work?

No God, NO work!

Worship should be the very first thing we do as we attend church on Sunday. We are to enter His gates with thanksgiving in our hearts and enter His courts with praise

 

[Major1]

Yes--it says on the first day of the week Mary found out Jesus was risen--she had gone there to finish the preparation of the body---and what is your point? It doesn't say a thing about changing to Sunday worship--several years after the resurrection they still hadn't said a word about changing to Sunday worship.

The 7th day sabbath was never given to anyone except the Israelites who were at Mt Sinai after being delivered from Egyptian bondage.

It was never given to Abraham, Isaac or Jacob, the ones that the Israelites looked to as their father. It was never given to the Gentiles.

It was a part of the covenant that God gave to Israel and Israel only, and it was to last only until Christ came who would give a better covenant.

Nehemiah 9:13...….
"Then You came down on Mount Sinai, And spoke with them from heaven; You gave them just ordinances and true laws, Good statutes and commandments. So You made known to them Your holy sabbath, And laid down for them commandments, statutes and law, Through Your servant Moses."

Deut. 5:14...…………
" but the seventh day is a sabbath of the Lord your God; in it you shall not do any work, you or your son or your daughter or your male servant or your female servant or your ox or your donkey or any of your cattle or your sojourner who stays with you, so that your male servant and your female servant may rest as well as you."

The Israelites were the ones that were slaves in Egypt, no one else therefore the law of the sabbath applied only to them.

The apostles were ministers of a New Covenant:

2 Cor 3:6, who also made us adequate as servants of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

The Old Covenant had no provision for the forgiveness of sins, the New Covenant does.

Christ arose from the dead on the first day of the week, (Matt. 28:1).

The church began on the first day of the week, (Acts 2:47)

The first century church worshiped and observed the Lords' Supper on the first day of the week, (Acts 20:7).

The early church gave of their means on the first day of the week when they came together to worship. (1 Cor 16:1-2)

All history, both church history and secular history show that the early church met for worship on the first day of the week.

The sabbath was a part of the Law of God, the Law of Moses which was ended when Christ died on the cross. (Col 2:14)

The observance of the first day of the week began when the church began, on the first day of Pentecost following the resurrection of Christ. (Acts 2).

 

[Major1]

That does not address all those that came way before --St. Patrick was in 400 AD. And there were more way before then, from the disciples on.

Post YOUR sources for your opinion please.

 

[Major1]

so---remain ignorant---not my problem. I just post what is relevant. If it's truth anyone wants--it is available, it takes a little effort besides sitting in pews and being told what to believe.

No reason to get personal and call people names. No here is "ignorant". We just do not believe what you believe because it is not Biblical.

You can do whatever you choose to do but you can not then claim that it is in the Bible and that is what we have been showing to you.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Post YOUR sources for your opinion please.

No opinion needed.
LOOK IT UP. It was not real easy to find 2 years ago, and is harder now, but is still available.

The country had the best time of peace when they were all observing the Sabbath as Scripture directs, as Jesus did/does in His time on earth, and as all the Apostles and disciples in the NT and first century did.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

We just do not believe what you believe because it is not Biblical.

"Opinion"
Sorry, can't claim it one way, in error, then turn around and use it another way, in error.

 

[Major1]

There were no churches at creation or even after the fall---they gathered together in prayer and sacrifices at first--after the resurrection it still took a while for churches to develop--they met in groups wherever they could, homes, buildings, riverbanks. You expected God to say you shall gather in churches to honor and praise me and not work?

Correct! There was no such thing as "CHURCH: until Paul introduced it as a "MYSTERY".

Correct! They met wherever they could and it was on SUNDAY the 1st day of the week.

Again, you are missing the point! Sabbath does not mean required church services, although communion with other believers has always been important spiritually in Christianity. The word "Sabbath" is derived from the Hebrew word Shabath, which literally means "rest" or "cessation."


Ex. 31:16-17...…………..
“Therefore the children of Israel shall keep the Sabbath, to observe the Sabbath throughout their generations as a perpetual covenant. It is a sign between Me and the children of Israel forever; for in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day He rested and was refreshed”.

Did YOU Notice that It says; "the children of Israel????

The Letter to the Colossians in 2:16 instructed its readers that Sabbath observance was not required...……...
" Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days".

 

[Major1]

No opinion needed.
LOOK IT UP. It was not real easy to find 2 years ago, and is harder now, but is still available.

The country had the best time of peace when they were all observing the Sabbath as Scripture directs, as Jesus did/does in His time on earth, and as all the Apostles and disciples in the NT and first century did.

mmksparbud said: ↑
That does not address all those that came way before --St. Patrick was in 400 AD. And there were more way before then, from the disciples on.

I said...……..
Post YOUR sources for your opinion please.

"YOU said"......…
No opinion needed.
LOOK IT UP. It was not real easy to find 2 years ago, and is harder now, but is still available.


You have confused me. Your comment does not speak to the question posed to mmksparbud.What/who are you talking to???​

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

mmksparbud said: ↑
That does not address all those that came way before --St. Patrick was in 400 AD. And there were more way before then, from the disciples on.

I said...……..
Post YOUR sources for your opinion please.

"YOU said"......…
No opinion needed.
LOOK IT UP. It was not real easy to find 2 years ago, and is harder now, but is still available.


You have confused me. Your comment does not speak to the question posed to mmksparbud.What/who are you talking to???​

It may or may not be findable online resources TODAY. Patricks sabbath keeping and the whole country (he was in) sabbath keeping WAS ONCE WELL KNOWN.

Like many other things, history has been largely both forgotten AND re-written.

"LOOK IT UP" , i.e. AS JESUS SAYS - seek for the truth, AND KEEP SEEKING.

do not rely on men, anywhere.

 

[mmksparbud]

No God, NO work!

Worship should be the very first thing we do as we attend church on Sunday. We are to enter His gates with thanksgiving in our hearts and enter His courts with praise

Then give me the bible verse that says that!! Very simple. What you mean by no God no work---I do not know.

 

[mmksparbud]

The 7th day sabbath was never given to anyone except the Israelites who were at Mt Sinai after being delivered from Egyptian bondage.

It was never given to Abraham, Isaac or Jacob, the ones that the Israelites looked to as their father. It was never given to the Gentiles.

It was a part of the covenant that God gave to Israel and Israel only, and it was to last only until Christ came who would give a better covenant.

Nehemiah 9:13...….
"Then You came down on Mount Sinai, And spoke with them from heaven; You gave them just ordinances and true laws, Good statutes and commandments. So You made known to them Your holy sabbath, And laid down for them commandments, statutes and law, Through Your servant Moses."

Deut. 5:14...…………
" but the seventh day is a sabbath of the Lord your God; in it you shall not do any work, you or your son or your daughter or your male servant or your female servant or your ox or your donkey or any of your cattle or your sojourner who stays with you, so that your male servant and your female servant may rest as well as you."

The Israelites were the ones that were slaves in Egypt, no one else therefore the law of the sabbath applied only to them.

The apostles were ministers of a New Covenant:

2 Cor 3:6, who also made us adequate as servants of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

The Old Covenant had no provision for the forgiveness of sins, the New Covenant does.

Christ arose from the dead on the first day of the week, (Matt. 28:1).

The church began on the first day of the week, (Acts 2:47)

The first century church worshiped and observed the Lords' Supper on the first day of the week, (Acts 20:7).

The early church gave of their means on the first day of the week when they came together to worship. (1 Cor 16:1-2)

All history, both church history and secular history show that the early church met for worship on the first day of the week.

The sabbath was a part of the Law of God, the Law of Moses which was ended when Christ died on the cross. (Col 2:14)

The observance of the first day of the week began when the church began, on the first day of Pentecost following the resurrection of Christ. (Acts 2).

There is no such verse that dictates Sunday worship--it is pure conjecture and you are quite simply following what the Catholics introduced into the church since Constantine. You are free to worship any day you want, but it is not biblical in any way. None of the 10 were given to only the Jews--0is to bot murder only for the Jews? How about stealing--lonely for the Jew? is adultery applicable only to the Jew? The laws nailed to the cross, which even plain common sense should tell you---are the sacrificial laws pointing to Jesus as the Sacrificial Lamb as He is now both Lamb and High Priest and a reading of Hebrews should tell you that. That was the old covenant, no need of priestly sacrifices any more. That Christ arose on the first day of the week does in now way blot out any commandment! If Jesus had wanted that day changed He would have said so!! After all, it is He that declared the 7th day exalted at creation and no man has the right to change what God has written with His own hand on stone.

 

[mmksparbud]

Correct! There was no such thing as "CHURCH: until Paul introduced it as a "MYSTERY".

Correct! They met wherever they could and it was on SUNDAY the 1st day of the week.

Again, you are missing the point! Sabbath does not mean required church services, although communion with other believers has always been important spiritually in Christianity. The word "Sabbath" is derived from the Hebrew word Shabath, which literally means "rest" or "cessation."


Ex. 31:16-17...…………..
“Therefore the children of Israel shall keep the Sabbath, to observe the Sabbath throughout their generations as a perpetual covenant. It is a sign between Me and the children of Israel forever; for in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day He rested and was refreshed”.

Did YOU Notice that It says; "the children of Israel????

The Letter to the Colossians in 2:16 instructed its readers that Sabbath observance was not required...……...
" Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days".

They met on the 7th day as stated all over the bible-but then I forgot---you do not read posts more than 30 words so you remain uninformed.
Yes--I see the children of Israel--they had a great mixed multitude with them and anyone that wanted to be one of them was to keep it -- "thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:"

 

[mmksparbud]

Post YOUR sources for your opinion please.

Seventh Day Baptists have long been aware of the facts concerning Patrick. The book, Seventh Day Baptists in Europe and America (1910), reports that the Christian Church in Ireland was founded soon after the death of Christ by disciples of the Asian Churches. Columba's establishment of a Sabbath-keeping community in the island of Iona was the result of Patrick's teaching. Celtic Ireland was unattached to Rome until at least 1155. Some Irish Sabbath-keepers remained until the nineteenth century.

Here is a another good source---it is longer than you can handle. Only posting a short paragraph--hope it's not too long for you.

"The monks sent to England [in 596 A.D.] by Pope Gregory the Great soon came to see that the Celtic Church differed from theirs in many respects…Augustine himself [a Benedictine abbot]…held several conferences with the Christian Celts in order to accomplish the difficult task of their subjugation [submission] to Roman authority…The Celts permitted their priests to marry, the Romans forbade it. The Celts used a different mode of baptism [i.e., true baptism: immersion] from that of the Romans…The Celts held their own councils and enacted their own laws, independent of Rome. The Celts used a Latin Bible [i.e., the Itala] unlike the [Roman Catholic's Latin] Vulgate, and kept Saturday as a day of rest.” (A.C. Flick, The Rise of Medieval Church, p.236-327)
"Saint Patrick" and the Early Celtic Church: Sunday-Keeping Catholics or Sabbath-observant Christians?

 

[Major1]

There is no such verse that dictates Sunday worship--it is pure conjecture and you are quite simply following what the Catholics introduced into the church since Constantine. You are free to worship any day you want, but it is not biblical in any way. None of the 10 were given to only the Jews--0is to bot murder only for the Jews? How about stealing--lonely for the Jew? is adultery applicable only to the Jew? The laws nailed to the cross, which even plain common sense should tell you---are the sacrificial laws pointing to Jesus as the Sacrificial Lamb as He is now both Lamb and High Priest and a reading of Hebrews should tell you that. That was the old covenant, no need of priestly sacrifices any more. That Christ arose on the first day of the week does in now way blot out any commandment! If Jesus had wanted that day changed He would have said so!! After all, it is He that declared the 7th day exalted at creation and no man has the right to change what God has written with His own hand on stone.

SEMATICS!

YOU as a Seventh-day Adventist have a theological position that leads YOU to conclude that “the Lord’s day’ refers to the Sabbath. However, there is nothing in the first two centuries of church history to support this view. First there is no other example from the second century church fathers where ‘the Lord’s day’ was ever used to refer to the Sabbath.

In addition to that, the Seventh-day Adventist theological position leads them to conclude that “the Lord’s day’ refers to the Sabbath, there is nothing in the first two centuries of church history to support this view---NOTHING!. There is no other example from the second century church fathers where ‘the Lord’s day’ was ever used to refer to the Sabbath. THAT IS REAL HISTORY.

Now please think! Under the LAW which you are trying to mix with grace to say that we MUST attend worship services on Saturday, in the Old Test. LAW if one even went out to gather sticks on the Sabbath in order to kindle a fire in Numbers 15:32-36, he was to be put to death.

That is what you are supporting. So then, how do you explain the act of driving your car to church to worship???? That world be breaking the Sabbath law.