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Why evolution isn't scientific

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Speedwell

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its a problem for evolution since evolution need small steps.
Not a problem. The parts of the system evolve in small steps in parallel, subject to selection pressure from each other.
 
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But that's not an explanation as to why evolution can't evolve the parts!

Because he says so, duh. After all, xianghua is clearly the foremost authority on biology in these forums. Who are we to question his wisdom?
 
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Not a problem. The parts of the system evolve in small steps in parallel, subject to selection pressure from each other.

Pfffffft, "small steps", "parallel", "evolution".

Using your fancy made-up words isn't going to save you from the watertight logic that says, "Nuh-uh!".

Take that evolutionists!
 
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Pfffffft, "small steps", "parallel", "evolution".

Using your fancy made-up words isn't going to save you from the watertight logic that says, "Nuh-uh!".

Take that evolutionists!
Curses! Foiled again.
 
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actually it can be tets. if you will remove a part of a tipical complex biological system it will not work. so it cant evolve unless all the parts are in place.
The way you come back with PRATT after PRATT after PRATT pretending you have something unexplainable is priceless. You are the poster boy for Creationism.
 
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what about motion system? can you as designer make a motion system that made from a signle part or you will need at least several parts?

Care to define a "motion system"?

I mean, I could talk about a "rotation system", but that could describe anything from an internal combustion engine to a windmill.
 
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realy? can you show why its not the same?

People have been trying to show you why for ages now. If you really wanted an answer, you would pay attention to what people say instead of ignoring them.

And I say you are ignoring them because you keep spouting the same nonsense after it has been debunked.
 
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actually it can be tets. if you will remove a part of a tipical complex biological system it will not work. so it cant evolve unless all the parts are in place.

Once again, you don't understand how evolution works.

By your logic, I can say that an arch must be carved from a single piece of stone, since the removal of any single block results in the whole thing collapsing.
 
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the explanation is that there is no stepwise. so evolution is in a problem.

No, that's not an explanation. That's just a claim you keep making but have no evidence for.
 
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Not a problem. The parts of the system evolve in small steps in parallel, subject to selection pressure from each other.
but there is no selection pressure in something that doesnt work (a single part of the whole system).
 
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Care to define a "motion system"?

I mean, I could talk about a "rotation system", but that could describe anything from an internal combustion engine to a windmill.
i mean something that can make your hand to move.
 
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again: if you will remove some parts the system will not work. this is the evidence.

But that has been shown to be a HORRIBLE example against evolution. It just doesn't work like that.
 
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because if we remove some parts we dont get a functional system.

But how do you know the single part doesn't work?

After all, those same parts could be part of other systems. Or have been part of precursor systems. Or still be functional in their own right. Etc, etc.
 
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but there is no selection pressure in something that doesnt work (a single part of the whole system).
Of course there is. There is selection pressure from other components of the system.
 
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Asking me to provide evidence for my position is NOT what I asked for. You must provide evidence supporting YOURS. Now get to it. Provide a valid scientific argument for your position.

@VirOptimus said to me "The ToE just is."

What do you think of this valid scientific arguement?
 
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