The question continuationists must answer

[SkyWriting]

Man, you are in the worst case of denial that i ever witnessed.

I'm being quite mild with my replies.

 

[W2L]

After his conversion, he still considered himself the worst of all sinners.
That's a pretty low standing.

That doesnt mean he was a sinner when he was preaching doctrine.

 

[SkyWriting]

The apostles were in agreement, not the division we see now. Yoyu are wrong. It didnt take peter and Paul a 1000 years to fix their differences! Get real.

So you haven't read the letters yet?

 

[W2L]

I'm being quite mild with my replies.

You are in denial.

 

[W2L]

So you haven't read the letters yet?

Yes i have.

 

[SkyWriting]

That doesnt mean he was a sinner when he was preaching doctrine.

He says he was the worst. I'll take that over your assessment. My opinion is that he didn't treat other people the same as he would wish to be treated himself. That's my standard for perfection.

 

[ToBeLoved]

Yes i was waiting for that to come up. The thing is that Peter and Paul eventually came to an agreement. This is not so with Catholics and Protestants. They have had hundreds of years to hammer out their differences but instead of getting that we get EO, MJ, SDA, RCC, Methodist, Lutheran, Pentecostal, Presbyterian, baptist, Anglican and so many more. Surely God didnt start this mess of theology. Surely these teachers are not called by God to divide the church up into factions.

It’s interesting when a church has a governing church structure like the RCC.

There are all these layers. Like priests, bishops, cardinals and popes.

I don’t have or am not going to comment on that because it will just lead to arguments.

I avoid those hierarchical type churches myself.

I’ll leave it there.

 

[W2L]

So far continuationists have claimed that the different members of the body of Christ are not individual people but are denominations. thats wrong of course.

Then they claimed that Paul was a sinner who preached unsound doctrine, another false belief.

Go ahead, stay in denial about teachers in the church today. Keep thinking God sent teachers to teach both Catholicism and Protestantism. It makes no sense but keep on believing it.

 

[ToBeLoved]

He says he was the worst. I'll take that over your assessment.

Paul is talking about his full life as a sinner.

Paul, formerly Saul, persecuted Christians that were put to death before his conversion.

This happening is also why Paul, even though he labored harder than any other apostle, called himself least of the apostles. It also might have something to do with the fact that he was added later.

 

[SkyWriting]

You are in denial.

As far as your conclusion, I'm happy to deny it.

 

[SkyWriting]

So far continuationists have claimed that the different members of the body of Christ are not individual people but are denominations. thats wrong of course.

Then they claimed that Paul was a sinner who preached unsound doctrine, another false belief.

Go ahead, stay in denial about teachers in the church today. Keep thinking God sent teachers to teach both Catholicism and Protestantism. It makes no sense but keep on believing it.

I deny your conclusion as valid. You still have no biblical basis for any of it.

 

[SkyWriting]

Paul is talking about his full life as a sinner.Paul, formerly Saul, persecuted Christians that were put to death before his conversion.This happening is also why Paul, even though he labored harder than any other apostle, called himself least of the apostles. It also might have something to do with the fact that he was added later.

In context, he says Jesus came into his life, and he still remains the worst of all sinners.
verses 14, then 15.

 

[W2L]

He says he was the worst. I'll take that over your assessment. My opinion is that he didn't treat other people the same as he would wish to be treated himself. That's my standard for perfection.

He was the worst sinner because of his previous sins of persecuting the church, before he was converted. Paul became all thing to all people because he cared about them. He loved everyone. You are wrong. You are propagating yet another continuationist error

 

[W2L]

I deny your conclusion as valid. You still have no biblical basis for any of it.

Yes i do and i cited scripture. This isnt about scripture though. Its about making a logical observation about the church today.

 

[W2L]

In context, he says Jesus came into his life, and he still remains the worst of all sinners.
verses 14, then 15.

He was the worst of sinners why? Because he persecuted the church, before he was converted, not because he was a sinning apostle.

 

[SkyWriting]

He was the worst of sinners why? Because he persecuted the church, before he was converted, not because he was a sinning apostle.

Not according to him.

 

[SkyWriting]

Yes i do and i cited scripture. This isnt about scripture though. Its about making a logical observation about the church today.

Human logic is chock clear full of bologny. Check scripture on that.

 

[W2L]

Not according to him.

Wrong. See here, he was the worst sinner because he persecuted the church. Did paul continue to persecute the church after he became an apostle? No. You are propagating unsound doctrine by twisting the scriptures out of context.

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1 Timothy 1:13 Even though I was once a blasphemer and a persecutor and a violent man, I was shown mercy because I acted in ignorance and unbelief. 14 The grace of our Lord was poured out on me abundantly, along with the faith and love that are in Christ Jesus.

15 Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners—of whom I am the worst. 16 But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his immense patience as an example for those who would believe in him and receive eternal life.

 

[W2L]

Human logic is chock clear full of bologny. Check scripture on that.

Whats your point? So far your argument has accused the apostle paul of being a sinner while he was an apostle. You are perverting scripture with your assertion.. .

 

[SkyWriting]

16 But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his immense patience as an example for those who would believe in him and receive eternal life.

Super! "I was shown mercy because I acted in ignorance and unbelief."

For this reason, the churches are also forgiven their imperfections.
Thanks for covering it for me. I need not add anything more.