Was 1948 the Regathering of Israel in Bible Prophecy?

[keras]

So what do you make of Israel today? Are they Israel?

Those who call themselves Jews, have wrongly usurped the name of Israel for their State. They have no proof of their ancestry, in fact the historical record shows they are mostly descended from a variety of races and even the Jewish Encyclopedia says the Jews are from Edom.

Thinking that God will still redeem all of the Jews, is false teaching and conflicts with much scripture. Romans 9:27

 

[Calminian]

When a Dispensationalist is loosing the argument...

Except in this case, I was already winning.

 

[Calminian]

Define "Israel".

Bingo.

 

[Calminian]

This is more about Israel hatred then theology.

 

[jgr]

Bingo.

A dog, or a game.

 

[Calminian]

So now I'm curious how far you guys will go.

True or false: Hitler killed 6 million Jews?

 

[jgr]

So now I'm curious how far you guys will go.

True or false: Hitler killed 6 million Jew?

True. He also killed millions of non-Jews.

 

[Calminian]

True. He also killed millions of non-Jews.

Yes 6 million jews and about 4 million non-jews. But you admit the 6 million were Jews. Very smart backpedal.

 

[jgr]

Yes 6 million jews and about 4 million non-jews. But you admit the 6 million were Jews. Very smart backpedal.

Since Jewish DNA is ubiquitous, as genetics and mathematics demonstrate, everyone that Hitler killed was genetically a Jew.

 

[jgr]

This is more about Israel hatred then theology.

Israel is in everyone, but we do not all hate ourselves.

 

[Calminian]

Since Jewish DNA is ubiquitous, as genetics and mathematics demonstrate, everyone that Hitler killed was genetically a Jew.

But I thought you just said he killed a lot of non-Jews? Now you're saying they were all Jews? You want to take a breather and get your story straight?

 

[jgr]

But I thought you just said he killed a lot of non-Jews? Now you're saying they were all Jews? You want to take a breather and get your story straight?

Religioculturally, they were Jews and non-Jews.

Genetically, they were all Jews.

 

[Calminian]

Religioculturally, they were Jews and non-Jews...

This story evolves by the moment. So of the 6 million he killed, you say only a small portion were Jews?

 

[jgr]

This story evolves by the moment. So of the 6 million he killed, you say only a small portion were Jews?

Every one of the millions he killed possessed some amount of Jewish DNA.

 

[Calminian]

Every one of the millions he killed possessed some amount of Jewish DNA.

But you said he killed millions of non-Jews. Then, in a feeble attempt to save yourself, you define all humans as Jews (and non-Jews). You've defined them indistinguishable from the human race, and thus out of existence. This is tantamount to Holocaust denial.

Here's the point. Bad theology has consequences.

 

[keras]

Here's the point. Bad theology has consequences.

Right. And believing in a general Jewish Redemption is wrong, as that is never stated in the Bible.
The Israelites that God will save are those Overcomers for God, literally: the Israel of God. There are more than 20 prophesies that tell us that only a remnant of Judah will be saved. Romans 9:27 Isaiah 6:11-13, Jeremiah 12:14, +

 

[jgr]

But you said he killed millions of non-Jews. Then, in a feeble attempt to save yourself, you define all humans as Jews (and non-Jews). You've defined them indistinguishable from the human race, and thus out of existence. This is tantamount to Holocaust denial.

Here's the point. Bad theology has consequences.

If you'd take some time to understand the difference between genetics and religioculturality, you wouldn't have a problem.

Everyone Hitler exterminated was genetically a Jew, but unknown as such to him because the science of genetics did not exist.

Of those, six million qualified as Jews according to his criteria for determining Jewishness (e.g. names, religion, culture).

 

[Calminian]

If you'd take some time to understand the difference between genetics and religioculturality, you wouldn't have a problem.

Everyone Hitler exterminated was genetically a Jew, but unknown as such to him because the science of genetics did not exist.

Of those, six million qualified as Jews according to his criteria for determining Jewishness (e.g. names, religion, culture).

In other words, you deny the jewish holocaust. I get it. Jews, in your thinking, don't really exist. All the Bible authors disagree.

Bad theology has consequences.

 

[jgr]

In other words, you deny the jewish holocaust. I get it. Jews, in your thinking, don't really exist. All the Bible authors disagree.

Bad theology has consequences.

How can they not exist if every one of us is a Jew?

 

[Calminian]

Right. And believing in a general Jewish Redemption is wrong, as that is never stated in the Bible.
The Israelites that God will save are those Overcomers for God, literally: the Israel of God. There are more than 20 prophesies that tell us that only a remnant of Judah will be saved. Romans 9:27 Isaiah 6:11-13, Jeremiah 12:14, +

But surely you believe in the existence of a Jewish people? Distinguishable from Gentiles?