Was King David Saved While He Committed His Sins of Adultery and Murder?

[DeeR.]

You said:

“Try to hear what people are actually saying and be less quick to label everybody and their beliefs and you may find you are just reading into what others are saying beyond what is being said.”​

And I am telling you that what you think people are saying is not true based on my experience in discussing this topic for 7 years.

I have also specifically studied the Scriptures on the false belief of Eternal Security or Belief Alone for 7 years. It is not to boast, but it is to merely show you that I know this topic fairly well and the different kinds of people and variations of these beliefs.

Oh, and no. A person does not automatically know everything in the Bible overnight. That is simply not true. It takes years of study with God and not at a church or school where they force feed you what they want you to hear.



Are you speaking from your personal belief or from the Bible? If it is from the Bible, we need verses. Oh and if what you say is true, what do you make of the 144,000 who were without fault before the throne of God in Revelation 14:3-5?

(144,000) We are all without fault my friend, Jesus made us spotless without blemish, that does not imply that there are some who did not commit sins... there are none righteous, no not one All have turned aside; together they have become worthless;no one does good,not even one.” So it is the in line with the bible and not my own personal belief.

I never wrote anyone will know everything in the bible overnight. Again try to hear what is being said, not what is not being said. Seek peace and unity and love first in your heart and we will not need to appear as arguing so much.
Churches and schools are not the issue it is our leading and willingness to be led to the right church or place to aid us in study as well.
Stating years of experience doesn't show us to be anything or know anything. I know people who have studied for decades and have no clue. Let us leave behind our credentials and experience to prove our qualifications and let the words we speak be tested by the hearts of the hearers by the Spirit's words.... whether we are fishermen who never studied the scriptures or not
Acts 4:13
Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were unlearned and ignorant men, they marveled;
1 Corinth
26Brothers and sisters, think of what you were when you were called. Not many of you were wise by human standards; not many were influential; not many were of noble birth. 27But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong.
20Where is the wise person? Where is the teacher of the law? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? 21For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe. 22Jews demand signs and Greeks look for wisdom, 23but we preach Christ crucified:

 

[Bible Highlighter]

(144,000) We are all without fault my friend, Jesus made us spotless without blemish, that does not imply that there are some who did not commit sins...

No. Nothing is mentioned here about what you are saying.

Context says this about the 144,000:

1. They were not defiled by women (verse 4).
2. They were virgins (verse 4).
3. They follow the Lamb (Jesus) wherever He goes (verse 4).
4. In their mouth was found no guile (verse 5).

This is the context of them being without fault before the throne of God.
It was their holy living.
Do you need another example in Scripture?

Luke 1:5-6 says,
5 "...a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elisabeth.
6 And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless."

there are none righteous, no not one All have turned aside; together they have become worthless;no one does good,not even one.”

If you are claiming that Christians in their present walk with God are always in sin as per Romans 3:10, and Romans 3:23, you also have to believe they are without understanding and they do not seek after God, too (See Romans 3:11). Are you saying all Christians are without understanding and they do not seek after God?

So it is the in line with the bible and not my own personal belief.

Whether you honestly believe that or not, I know that such a belief (that you are proposing here) is not even remotely true (by a long shot).

I never wrote anyone will know everything in the bible overnight. Again try to hear what is being said, not what is not being said. Seek peace and unity and love first in your heart and we will not need to appear as arguing so much.

I am only going off what you said. You have to speak clearly if you don't want me to assume the wrong thing, friend. I don't time to decipher hidden meaning behind what a person is trying to really say. Just talk plainly please.

Churches and schools are not the issue it is our leading and willingness to be led to the right church or place to aid us in study as well.

Ever fiber in my being. Every cell in my body screams against this so badly that you cannot possibly imagine. I used to think Bible schools were okay. Man, oh man. If you knew what I knew. Churches? They are not even in the New Testament. Think. Where in the Bible is it ever shown where Christians gathered with unbelievers and invited them to worship God with them (without them being converted to Christ)? In 1 Corinthians 5, they kicked out a man who was fornicating in the church and he was a believer!!!! And you want me to believe that Christians can invite non-believers to worship God? Not a chance! Christians went out two by two to evangelize. Christians ONLY fellowshiped in each others homes.

Stating years of experience doesn't show us to be anything or know anything. I know people who have studied for decades and have no clue.

I agree. But what are they studying?
How are they studying?
What is the source of their education?
Is it in God or men or some institution?

Let us leave behind our credentials and experience to prove our qualifications

I am not impressed with credentials. I said experience in studying a very specific thing under the guidance of God. Sure you have only my word to take for it. So I suppose you can only test it out for yourself. Do your own homework to see if what I say is true. Jesus says you will know a tree by it's fruit. I know OSAS has bad fruit. Not just under a basic cursory study. Over many years. Much data. Much information. The info keeps stacking up. If you investigate the darkside of OSAS, you will see what I am talking about.

For Eternal Security or OSAS (Once Saved Always Saved), the talk of holiness and conforming to Christ is an illusion because they also say you can sin on occasion and yet you are still saved. This is what the two fold message of Eternal Security is all about.

For the general message of OSAS in many cases tends to lead people into being enslaved to their sin and not being set free from it. How so? Just check out these testimonies below.

Ex OSAS Audio Testimonies:
Testimonies of former eternal security believers

Suicide & OSAS:.
A tragic story of an OSAS believer.

A Pastor's Testimony on OSAS:
A testimony about OSAS by a Pastor's wife.

Hooked on Sin & OSAS:
Out Of Darkness NO Eternal Security Christian Testimony

Suicide, Mass Murder, and OSAS:
George Sodini

More Suicide Victims and OSAS:
SUICIDE Commit Suicide Symptoms Suicidal Victims

and let the words we speak be tested by the hearts of the hearers by the Spirit's words.... whether we are fishermen who never studied the scriptures or not
Acts 4:13
Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were unlearned and ignorant men, they marveled;
1 Corinth
26Brothers and sisters, think of what you were when you were called. Not many of you were wise by human standards; not many were influential; not many were of noble birth.
27But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong.
20Where is the wise person? Where is the teacher of the law? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? 21For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe. 22Jews demand signs and Greeks look for wisdom, 23but we preach Christ crucified:

This is EXACTLY why I reject schools and churches. It is being wise by human standards. You will see that what a school teaches and what the Bible teaches are two different things sometimes. In fact, some Christians have stopped becoming Christian because of Bible school. They thought that was the way, and it was not. It was another way that the Bible does not teach. One example is that BIble schools push that you cannot know God's Word without studying the original languages. They are also charging their fellow brethren lots of money and putting them into debt for the knowledge of God's Word. Churches also expect a tithe (tithing is not even Biblical) for their services, as well. Many churches do not even know who their attendees are. They are just a crowd that they put on a show for. Great! But what about discipling? What about getting them out their on the streets and telling others about Jesus or handing out tracts? What about helping the poor together? It's a show. Every week. Sing a song. Do an altar call? But where is the loving of others out there who cannot make it? Too bad for them. They can stay safe and warm in their comfortable big building. I prefer to follow Jesus and only what we see in God's Holy written Word (the Bible).

Sorry, I get righteously angry at how things are in these last days.
I do love all people (Including my enemies).
But the way things are. I can only imagine God is very upset.
Jesus says that when He returns, will He find faith on the Earth?

Here is one thread you check out that was created by another fellow brother of mine:
The Pastor King (New)

 

[DeeR.]

No. Nothing is mentioned here about what you are saying.

Context says this about the 144,000:

1. They were not defiled by women (verse 4).
2. They were virgins (verse 4).
3. They follow the Lamb (Jesus) wherever He goes (verse 4).
4. In their mouth was found no guile (verse 5).

This is the context of them being without fault before the throne of God.
It was their holy living.
Do you need another example in Scripture?

Luke 1:5-6 says,
5 "...a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elisabeth.
6 And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless."



If you are claiming that Christians in their present walk with God are always in sin as per Romans 3:10, and Romans 3:23, you also have to believe they are without understanding and they do not seek after God, too (See Romans 3:11). Are you saying all Christians are without understanding and they do not seek after God?



Whether you honestly believe that or not, I know that such a belief (that you are proposing here) is not even remotely true (by a long shot).



I am only going off what you said. You have to speak clearly if you don't want me to assume the wrong thing, friend. I don't time to decipher hidden meaning behind what a person is trying to really say. Just talk plainly please.



Ever fiber in my being. Every cell in my body screams against this so badly that you cannot possibly imagine. I used to think Bible schools were okay. Man, oh man. If you knew what I knew. Churches? They are not even in the New Testament. Think. Where in the Bible is it ever shown where Christians gathered with unbelievers and invited them to worship God with them (without them being converted to Christ)? In 1 Corinthians 5, they kicked out a man who was fornicating in the church and he was a believer!!!! And you want me to believe that Christians can invite non-believers to worship God? Not a chance! Christians went out two by two to evangelize. Christians ONLY fellowshiped in each others homes.



I agree. But what are they studying?
How are they studying?
What is the source of their education?
Is it in God or men or some institution?



I am not impressed with credentials. I said experience in studying a very specific thing under the guidance of God. Sure you have only my word to take for it. So I suppose you can only test it out for yourself. Do your own homework to see if what I say is true. Jesus says you will know a tree by it's fruit. I know OSAS has bad fruit. Not just under a basic cursory study. Over many years. Much data. Much information. The info keeps stacking up. If you investigate the darkside of OSAS, you will see what I am talking about.

For Eternal Security or OSAS (Once Saved Always Saved), the talk of holiness and conforming to Christ is an illusion because they also say you can sin on occasion and yet you are still saved. This is what the two fold message of Eternal Security is all about.

For the general message of OSAS in many cases tends to lead people into being enslaved to their sin and not being set free from it. How so? Just check out these testimonies below.

Ex OSAS Audio Testimonies:
Testimonies of former eternal security believers

Suicide & OSAS:.
A tragic story of an OSAS believer.

A Pastor's Testimony on OSAS:
A testimony about OSAS by a Pastor's wife.

Hooked on Sin & OSAS:
Out Of Darkness NO Eternal Security Christian Testimony

Suicide, Mass Murder, and OSAS:
George Sodini

More Suicide Victims and OSAS:
SUICIDE Commit Suicide Symptoms Suicidal Victims



This is EXACTLY why I reject schools and churches. It is being wise by human standards. You will see that what a school teaches and what the Bible teaches are two different things sometimes. In fact, some Christians have stopped becoming Christian because of Bible school. They thought that was the way, and it was not. It was another way that the Bible does not teach. One example is that BIble schools push that you cannot know God's Word without studying the original languages. They are also charging their fellow brethren lots of money and putting them into debt for the knowledge of God's Word. Churches also expect a tithe (tithing is not even Biblical) for their services, as well. Many churches do not even know who their attendees are. They are just a crowd that they put on a show for. Great! But what about discipling? What about getting them out their on the streets and telling others about Jesus or handing out tracts? What about helping the poor together? It's a show. Every week. Sing a song. Do an altar call? But where is the loving of others out there who cannot make it? Too bad for them. They can stay safe and warm in their comfortable big building. I prefer to follow Jesus and only what we see in God's Holy written Word (the Bible).

Sorry, I get righteously angry at how things are in these last days.
I do love all people (Including my enemies).
But the way things are. I cannot imagine God is very upset.
Jesus says that when He returns, will He find faith on the Earth?

Here is one thread you check out that was created by another fellow brother of mine:
The Pastor King (New)

Dear Lord, please be humble and not so intent on arguing. All scripture and God's will and nature apply to all scripture and His will and none violates another. If you think God's word about all are defiled and none are without sin does not apply to the scripture you are mentioning, I can not offer you any more than that.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Dear Lord, please be humble and not so intent on arguing. All scripture and God's will and nature apply to all scripture and His will and none violates another. If you think God's word about all are defiled and none are without sin does not apply to the scripture you are mentioning, I can not offer you any more than that.

Please address my points (when you have time).
No pressures.
If you only knew what I knew.
That is all I am saying.
Do not take my word for it (all on it's own); But check out the source links for yourself.
If you knew just 5% of what I knew about OSAS, it would make your stomach turn.
Well, that is if you have a standard of morality (like me).
I will let you decide for yourself.
Just check out the links.

 

[DeeR.]

Dear Lord, please be humble and not so intent on arguing. All scripture and God's will and nature apply to all scripture and His will and none violates another. If you think God's word about all are defiled and none are without sin does not apply to the scripture you are mentioning, I can not offer you any more than that.

I also can not address every possible meaning every possible person who would ever read this will assume by what I say. I am sorry butthat is as plain as I can make it. It is on you to not assume but ask your questions you come up with in your own mind before thinking you know.

 

[DeeR.]

Please address my points (when you have time).
No pressures.
If you only knew what I knew.
That is all I am saying.
Do not take my word for it (all on it's own); But check out the source links for yourself.
If you knew just 5% of what I knew about OSAS, it would make your stomach turn.
Well, that is if you have a standard of morality (like me).
I will let you decide for yourself.
Just check out the links.

I am not saying you have not experienced or have experiences or knowledge on a subject but rather that knowledge puffs up but Love builds up. Labeling groups and people and assuming you know all of each persons beliefs in a group or throwing them in a group that you profess turns your stomach is not edifying or gentle or loving or kind. Most who believe that they are saved & will be held by Jesus till the end are sincere Christians with sound doctrine & the Spirit. Be kind they are God's children.

 

[ToBeLoved]

No. Nothing is mentioned here about what you are saying.

Context says this about the 144,000:

1. They were not defiled by women (verse 4).
2. They were virgins (verse 4).
3. They follow the Lamb (Jesus) wherever He goes (verse 4).
4. In their mouth was found no guile (verse 5).

This is the context of them being without fault before the throne of God.
It was their holy living.
Do you need another example in Scripture?

Luke 1:5-6 says,
5 "...a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elisabeth.
6 And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless."



If you are claiming that Christians in their present walk with God are always in sin as per Romans 3:10, and Romans 3:23, you also have to believe they are without understanding and they do not seek after God, too (See Romans 3:11). Are you saying all Christians are without understanding and they do not seek after God?



Whether you honestly believe that or not, I know that such a belief (that you are proposing here) is not even remotely true (by a long shot).



I am only going off what you said. You have to speak clearly if you don't want me to assume the wrong thing, friend. I don't time to decipher hidden meaning behind what a person is trying to really say. Just talk plainly please.



Ever fiber in my being. Every cell in my body screams against this so badly that you cannot possibly imagine. I used to think Bible schools were okay. Man, oh man. If you knew what I knew. Churches? They are not even in the New Testament. Think. Where in the Bible is it ever shown where Christians gathered with unbelievers and invited them to worship God with them (without them being converted to Christ)? In 1 Corinthians 5, they kicked out a man who was fornicating in the church and he was a believer!!!! And you want me to believe that Christians can invite non-believers to worship God? Not a chance! Christians went out two by two to evangelize. Christians ONLY fellowshiped in each others homes.



I agree. But what are they studying?
How are they studying?
What is the source of their education?
Is it in God or men or some institution?



I am not impressed with credentials. I said experience in studying a very specific thing under the guidance of God. Sure you have only my word to take for it. So I suppose you can only test it out for yourself. Do your own homework to see if what I say is true. Jesus says you will know a tree by it's fruit. I know OSAS has bad fruit. Not just under a basic cursory study. Over many years. Much data. Much information. The info keeps stacking up. If you investigate the darkside of OSAS, you will see what I am talking about.

For Eternal Security or OSAS (Once Saved Always Saved), the talk of holiness and conforming to Christ is an illusion because they also say you can sin on occasion and yet you are still saved. This is what the two fold message of Eternal Security is all about.

For the general message of OSAS in many cases tends to lead people into being enslaved to their sin and not being set free from it. How so? Just check out these testimonies below.

Ex OSAS Audio Testimonies:
Testimonies of former eternal security believers

Suicide & OSAS:.
A tragic story of an OSAS believer.

A Pastor's Testimony on OSAS:
A testimony about OSAS by a Pastor's wife.

Hooked on Sin & OSAS:
Out Of Darkness NO Eternal Security Christian Testimony

Suicide, Mass Murder, and OSAS:
George Sodini

More Suicide Victims and OSAS:
SUICIDE Commit Suicide Symptoms Suicidal Victims



This is EXACTLY why I reject schools and churches. It is being wise by human standards. You will see that what a school teaches and what the Bible teaches are two different things sometimes. In fact, some Christians have stopped becoming Christian because of Bible school. They thought that was the way, and it was not. It was another way that the Bible does not teach. One example is that BIble schools push that you cannot know God's Word without studying the original languages. They are also charging their fellow brethren lots of money and putting them into debt for the knowledge of God's Word. Churches also expect a tithe (tithing is not even Biblical) for their services, as well. Many churches do not even know who their attendees are. They are just a crowd that they put on a show for. Great! But what about discipling? What about getting them out their on the streets and telling others about Jesus or handing out tracts? What about helping the poor together? It's a show. Every week. Sing a song. Do an altar call? But where is the loving of others out there who cannot make it? Too bad for them. They can stay safe and warm in their comfortable big building. I prefer to follow Jesus and only what we see in God's Holy written Word (the Bible).

Sorry, I get righteously angry at how things are in these last days.
I do love all people (Including my enemies).
But the way things are. I can only imagine God is very upset.
Jesus says that when He returns, will He find faith on the Earth?

Here is one thread you check out that was created by another fellow brother of mine:
The Pastor King (New)

I can understand you saying you are upset because of OSAS beliefs.

But saying that God must also be upset is a real lack of humility and respect for doctrine and Bible theology that you so happen to disagree with.

Dont state God is upset about His Own Word and the people who put their complete faith in Christ’s blood as permenant atonement.

I don’t think any of us should profess to know what God is thinking or that God is upset by His Children when they study His Word.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

I am not saying you have not experienced or have experiences or knowledge on a subject but rather that knowledge puffs up but Love builds up. Labeling groups and people and assuming you know all of each persons beliefs in a group or throwing them in a group that you profess turns your stomach is not edifying or gentle or loving or kind. Most who believe that they are saved & will be held by Jesus till the end are sincere Christians with sound doctrine & the Spirit. Be kind they are God's children.

Wrong knowledge puffs up. The knowledge of God and His truth does not, dear sir. The Scriptures say, God’s people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

I can understand you saying you are upset because of OSAS beliefs.

But saying that God must also be upset is a real lack of humility and respect for doctrine and Bible theology that you so happen to disagree with.

Dont state God is upset about His Own Word and the people who put their complete faith in Christ’s blood as permenant atonement.

I don’t think any of us should profess to know what God is thinking or that God is upset by His Children when they study His Word.

The thing is that there is no such thing as putting faith in His blood alone without it also including doing works of faith as a part of this faith in his blood, too. 1 John 1:7 says we also need to walk in the light in order for the blood to cleanse us, too. Also see Hebrews 5:9.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

I am not saying you have not experienced or have experiences or knowledge on a subject but rather that knowledge puffs up but Love builds up. Labeling groups and people and assuming you know all of each persons beliefs in a group or throwing them in a group that you profess turns your stomach is not edifying or gentle or loving or kind. Most who believe that they are saved & will be held by Jesus till the end are sincere Christians with sound doctrine & the Spirit. Be kind they are God's children.

Just check out the links.
Let the truth set you free.

 

[mark kennedy]

Wrong knowledge puffs up. The knowledge of God and His truth does not, dear sir. The Scriptures say, God’s people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.

I can agree with that if nothing else you say.

 

[mark kennedy]

Ex OSAS Audio Testimonies:
Testimonies of former eternal security believers

Suicide & OSAS:.
A tragic story of an OSAS believer.

A Pastor's Testimony on OSAS:
A testimony about OSAS by a Pastor's wife.

Hooked on Sin & OSAS:
Out Of Darkness NO Eternal Security Christian Testimony

Suicide, Mass Murder, and OSAS:
George Sodini

More Suicide Victims and OSAS:
SUICIDE Commit Suicide Symptoms Suicidal Victims

Well I read them and in the first one the links didn't work. Not a doctrinal discussion in any of them which tells me why you liked them. I'm still wondering what the Pastor King link has to do with anything. Talk about going off topic, you have your nerve.

 

[DeeR.]

Just check out the links.
Let the truth set you free.

I have already been set free by the Truth, but thank you my friend

 

[Llewelyn Stevenson]

Where is the verse that says God forgives indiscrepancies? Do you see that you changed the word from "sin" which is clearly wrong behaviour into a mere slip? You have downgraded sin.

Only in your interpretation Dorothy, not by intention. Sometimes our sins seem to be a mere slip to us and we find it easy to forgive ourselves and not others. That is the point I was making. I, personally, do not classify some sins as awful and others as insignificant as I have seen elsewhere in these posts, but I find we inadvertently subconsciously find we will excuse ourselves without repentance while condemning others. But whether you may on may not have is something you will need to judge for yourself. I am merely encouraging self-examination.

 

[Neogaia777]

Do you believe King David was saved while he committed his sins of adultery and murder?

Yes, or no?

My answer (as I have tried to state already) is not only do we (none of us, including you @Jason0047) not only can "none of us know" (that), but that it is sin to think we can (know) (that) either way... Only God knows... That is only within his realm of knowledge and knowing alone... And unless he divinely tells us, we will never know...?

Do you claim to know from truly divine revelation...? And, if you do can you show us that...? Cause if not, this subject is dead subject basically, really...

God Bless!

 

[Neogaia777]

Do you believe King David was saved while he committed his sins of adultery and murder?

Yes, or no?

I challenge any one of you who think you can answer that/this in any way, about anyone, at any time, to do so... and show us how you (can) do so, or do, or judge that, or make that/your determination on that, without it it being in error, or a lie, or a self-righteous assumption/determination on your part that is not of God, or, in short "sin".... For I would also question your motives in such a pursuit, especially if it for or about others, and not yourself first...

I think it is something we are meant to have in question, and that mainly about ourselves, for now...

God Bless!

 

[Neogaia777]

I cannot and will not ever tell anyone, ever, if they are still in, or ever were, or "whatever", or are, or are not, in a "saved state" while they are in, or are right in the very act of, even of committing or doing a certain sin, or kind of sin, a sin they full well know is sin... I will not tell them they are "not in saved state" (still or ever), or that God has left them (or was never with them, will not remain with them, ect, whatever) or that God is not with them, even in the very act(s) of doing sin(s)...

I refuse to tell them that, cause I do think I know or can judge in that or those matters...

However David was "saved" and always saved, cause God knew he would be, or end up, or wind up "saved", in the end...

But, as me, I cannot say or have no right in these matters, this is why we must be comforters, an gentle counselors in and with other people who are overtaken in a sin, or are in a great state of mourning (over) it at the time and we are with them...

It's called "Love", free from dealing out death and judgement, or shame, guilt and condemnation... For that (the latter) will not further the Kingdom of God or Christ in any way, and will actually work against it... And you will actually be enemies of God...

God Bless!

 

[Neogaia777]

If how good we are doesn't get us in, or is not what gets us in, then how bad we are, or who another is, we cannot ever be sure will keep us or anyone else out, or we or they won't get in either...

And who are we to say "Good" or else, "Bad" anyway...?

God Bless!

 

[Neogaia777]

If how good we are doesn't get us in, or is not what gets us in, then how bad we are, or who another is, we cannot ever be sure will keep us or anyone else out, or we or they won't get in either...

And who are we to say "Good" or else, "Bad" anyway...?

God Bless!

God has, "is" reminding me that I have been judging a lot of things good and or especially bad an/or evil lately, to where way too many things are seen as bad and/or evil... (even some things that might be good)...

When He told me, when that, they may not just not be "for me" (whatever they/it is or are/is/or will be) (good or bad)... But that that doesn't make that/them/all/it all evil, (and/or good or bad) in and of its/themselves, like I have been thinking a lot lately... When some things, whether good or bad, may not just be "for me/you (He said) " cause He has called me to something where those things just might not be for me... But/and He added, that's no reason to hate them, or the people in them doing them, or having things that are not a part of your life, as a part of their lives...

And that if I would/could stop doing that, stop judging everything (and everyone) and be giving myself over to anger and hatred (if only in my heart for me), I wouldn't have near as many problems and/or issues all of the time... He told me to try my best to leave that (up to) Him...

I then asked Him to help me with this...

And I think and already know I will... (get help with this)...

God Bless!

 

[Neogaia777]

God has, "is" reminding me that I have been judging a lot of things good and or especially bad an/or evil lately, to where way too many things are seen as bad and/or evil... (even some things that might be good)...

When He told me, when that, they may not just not be "for me" (whatever they/it is or are/is/or will be) (good or bad)... But that that doesn't make that/them/all/it all evil, (and/or good or bad) in and of its/themselves, like I have been thinking a lot lately... When some things, whether good or bad, may not just be "for me/you (He said) " cause He has called me to something where those things just might not be for me... But/and He added, that's no reason to hate them, or the people in them doing them, or having things that are not a part of your life, as a part of their lives...

And that if I would/could stop doing that, stop judging everything (and everyone) and be giving myself over to anger and hatred (if only in my heart for me), I wouldn't have near as many problems and/or issues all of the time... He told me to try my best to leave that (up to) Him...

I then asked Him to help me with this...

And I think and already know I will... (get help with this)...

God Bless!

I know you know what I am talking about here @Jason0047, for we have this "in common", No...?

I did say to the Lord (just now) "I still don't see the point and have no interest in/of having fellowship with them (socializing, being around them or a part of them), their stuff still annoys me sometimes"... Nor be interested in the things they are interested in, and/or or even "say" most of the time, it all just seems so, pointless, uninteresting, basically nothing most of time, and empty and meaningless to me most of the time...

He basically said, "well, let's/we'll work on that, K...?" And He reminded me it's not just supposed to solely and/or primarily "about me"... And want's me to remember that...

God Bless!