I guess there won't be a wall after all.

[Desk trauma]

They need to pass a law that says ALL employers MUST use e-verify.

I agree and would love to see that. However as with abortion its simply not in their interests to make effective legislation as then they can no longer get any milage out of the issue.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

One can only hope. Or perhaps he will build a fence instead. You can build a pretty long fence with a billion dollars. And it would be recyclable.

Or...perhaps Trump and his cronies can put in the research into the issue of illegal immigration, and realize that the majority are visa overstays (meaning, a wall would be rather pointless).

Being that visa overstays are people who are entering legally, but just failing to go back on the agreed upon date...not sure what building the wall is going to do (is he trying to keep them in????)

 

[Belk]

What planet have you been living on?

I live just a couple miles from the border and the wall has been going up for over a year. They have completed a couple miles of it on either side of the port of entry.

$1.6 billion had already been funded by the House.

New Wall -

The planet where there was never going to be a wall that stretched the southern border. That there have been updates to already existing impediments is not what was promised.

 

[Hank77]

Knowing Donald, he'll probably claim to have already built the wall, and his followers will believe him...

We've already seen the claim that they started building the Wall along CA's border. I don't think this is the Wall Trump had in mind. The cost is much lower than Trump's Wall prototypes.
https://nypost.com/2018/06/02/trumps-border-wall-breaks-ground-in-san-diego/

 

[Hank77]

What planet have you been living on?

I live just a couple miles from the border and the wall has been going up for over a year. They have completed a couple miles of it on either side of the port of entry.

$1.6 billion had already been funded by the House.

New Wall -

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Old wall -

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Oh, you mean more of the type of fencing that already existed during previous administrations?
Although they are building it higher and putting 3 or 4 ft. of solid metal sheets along the top. Have you seen the photos of men climbing over it?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Or...perhaps Trump and his cronies can put in the research into the issue of illegal immigration, and realize that the majority are visa overstays (meaning, a wall would be rather pointless).

Being that visa overstays are people who are entering legally, but just failing to go back on the agreed upon date...not sure what building the wall is going to do (is he trying to keep them in????)

I think we might be dealing with two classes of people; those with needed skills, and those who can only offer unskilled labor. It is the 'desperate' (read 'losers') that sneak in. One must have a needed skill to get a work visa. They also go through a background check. None of this applies to border crashers.

 

[TCassidy]

Oh, you mean more of the type of fencing that already existed during previous administrations?

You did look at the two pictures, didn't you?

 

[TCassidy]

Or...perhaps Trump and his cronies can put in the research into the issue of illegal immigration, and realize that the majority are visa overstays (meaning, a wall would be rather pointless).

ICE/CBP caught 50,000+ illegally cross our borders every month for the last 3 months. And they admit they only catch about 10-15% of those crossing our borders every month.

 

[durangodawood]

What planet have you been living on?

I live just a couple miles from the border and the wall has been going up for over a year. They have completed a couple miles of it on either side of the port of entry.

$1.6 billion had already been funded by the House.

New Wall -

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Old wall -

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So the emperor IS wearing clothes.... but its just one sock.

 

[Ignatius the Kiwi]

Maybe the democrats could try to compromise. Let Trump have his wall and they get their illegals legalised. I suspect democrats don't want to give an inch on making the border more secure.

 

[TCassidy]

How much private property do you want the feds to take?

Most of the property is already owned by the government. Much of it is protected bird sanctuaries and wetlands, which create another problem for the right-of-way.

 

[The Barbarian]

Well, since the House has the power of the purse, as it were, Donald could theoretically get his wall... if he can actually get Mexico to pay for it.

But then, he'd be keeping a promise. And you know, he never keeps his promises. He'll renege on this one, just like the rest.

 

[The Barbarian]

Most of the property is already owned by the government.

Nope. Very little federal land in Texas, and the land that is federal, as you suggest, is mostly areas that can't legally be damaged.

Unlike federal lands in most of the west, which were purchased by our tax dollars, Texas land was purchased by the blood of Texans.

 

[TCassidy]

So the emperor IS wearing clothes.... but its just one sock.

I would try to respond to that if it made any sense at all, but . . .

 

[The Barbarian]

Mexico might pay for a wall...on their own southern border.

We could always tell them it would keep white surpremacists out...

 

[TCassidy]

Nope.

Yep.

Very little federal land in Texas,

I didn't say "federal." Most of the wetlands and bird sanctuaries are state owned.

 

[durangodawood]

I would try to respond to that if it made any sense at all, but . . .

The Red Hot Chilli Peppers used to wear just one sock - over their "special" parts. And Chilli's are sort of a Mexican food group. So it all comes full circle.

Make sense now?

 

[Hank77]

You did look at the two pictures, didn't you?

Yes. The one across the desert is a fence. The one they put up to replace the chain link fence is the same kind of a fence.
https://www.christianforums.com/dat...1/295678_7b8741405aa1a3b782ca6eb1a6897da3.jpg

What do you think I'm not seeing?

 

[cow451]

I think we might be dealing with two classes of people; those with needed skills, and those who can only offer unskilled labor. It is the 'desperate' (read 'losers') that sneak in. One must have a needed skill to get a work visa. They also go through a background check. None of this applies to border crashers.

Glad you appreciate the skills of the people that pick the fruit and vegetables you buy at your local market.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

ICE/CBP caught 50,000+ illegally cross our borders every month for the last 3 months. And they admit they only catch about 10-15% of those crossing our borders every month.

...it's on a downward trend.

...and, as I noted before, the majority of the issue is from visa overstays. So a wall is just an overpriced virtue signal to pander to a certain crowd.

Taking half the money allotted for the wall, and putting up structures, only in key areas, and hiring additional border agents would be a smarter usage of funds.

I'm not sure why "the wall" appeals to so many other than it being some sort of brazen "in your face" republican symbolism.