Hey Steven,
I noticed that you failed to address the scriptures that show the great multitude in heaven....that return to the earth. As to your question...........No we disagree who the remnant Israel is. You think its the church, but it is the physical nation of Israel that flee when the abomination of desolation is set up 1290 days after the sacrifice is taken away.
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The whole Jerusalem/Temple Discourses and Revelation concern Israel.....
Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21 harmonized
They shall be killing each other
Matthew 10:21
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Now brother will deliver up brother to death, and a father his child; and children will rise up against parents and cause them to be put to death]
Mark 13:12
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brother shall deliver up brother to death, and father child, and children shall rise up against parents, and shall put them to death,
Luke 21:16
'And ye shall be delivered up also
by parents, and brothers, and kindred, and friends, and they shall put of you to death;
Ezekiel 38:21
Then will I call against him every terror, declareth My Lord Yahweh.
The sword of every man against his brother shall be;
Revelation 6:4
and there went forth another horse — red, and to him who is sitting upon it, there was given to him to take the peace from the land,
and that one another they may be slaying,
and there was given to him a great sword.
The Destruction of Jerusalem - George Peter Holford, 1805AD
While Jerusalem was a prey to these ferocious and devouring factions, every part of Judea was scourged and laid waste by bands of robbers and murderers, who plundered the towns; and, in case of resistance, slew the inhabitants, not sparing either women or children. S
imon, son of Gioras, the commander of one of these bands, at the head of forty thousand banditti, having with some difficulty entered Jerusalem, gave birth to a third faction, and the flame of civil discord blazed out again, with still more destructive fury. The three factions, rendered frantic by drunkenness, rage, and desperation, trampling on heaps of slain,
fought against each other with brutal savageness and madness.
Even such as brou't sacrifices to the temple were murdered. The dead bodies of priests and worshippers, both natives and foreigners were heaped together, and a lake of blood stagnated in the sacred courts. John of Gischala, who headed one of the factions, burnt storehouses full of provisions............
Thus they cut the very sinews of their own strength.
At this critical and alarming conjuncture,
intelligence arrived that the Roman army was approaching the City.
The Jews were petrified with astonishment and fear ;..............
Revelation 6:6
And I hear a voice in midst of the four living-ones saying:
"choinex of grain/wheat<4621> a denarius and three choinex of barleys a denarius,
and the oil and the wine no you should be injuring".
Matthew 3:12
whose fan is in his hand, and he will thoroughly cleanse his floor,
and will gather his grain/wheat<4621> to the storehouse, but the chaff he will burn with fire unquenchable.'
Luke 3:17
whose winnowing shovel is in his hand, and he will thoroughly cleanse his floor,
and will gather the grain/wheat<4621> to his storehouse, and the chaff he will burn with fire unquenchable.'
Matthew 13:30
suffer both to grow together till the harvest, and in the time of the harvest I will say to the reapers,
Gather up first the darnel, and bind it in bundles, to burn it,
and the grain/wheat<4621> gather up into my storehouse.'
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