Evolution?

[JackRT]

Evolution is still alive because many scientists have poor mathematical training

I find your comment quite humorous. I am a Christian, I am a scientist and I am a mathematician. It is actually almost impossible to be a scientist without a thorough mathematical background.

 

[Job 33:6]

It means DNA forms from atoms by random collision , by Chance

I must have missed this part of Darwin's proposal.

What are you talking about?

 

[johnnywong]

I find your comment quite humorous. I am a Christian, I am a scientist and I am a mathematician. It is actually almost impossible to be a scientist without a thorough mathematical background.

Yes , but not all has critical thinking after the training.

I am a retired doctor , I know DNA , I know statistics. Do you know Borel's Law ?

 

[johnnywong]

I must have missed this part of Darwin's proposal.

What are you talking about?

Yes .
You missed the most important part of Origin of life .Chemical evolution must be before biological evolution.
Darwin's has no knowledge of DNA at all . He does not know chemical evolution.

 

[JackRT]

Yes , but not all has critical thinking after the training.

I am a retired doctor , I know DNA , I know statistics. Do you know Borel's Law ?

If I recall correctly it has to do with highly improbable events?

 

[johnnywong]

Yes

If I recall correctly it has to do with highly improbable events?

Yes , Any odds beyond 1 in 10to the pwer of 50 have a zero probability of ever happening.

 

[JackRT]

Yes

Yes , Any odds beyond 1 in 10to the pwer of 50 have a zero probability of ever happening.

And the problem lies in the calculation of those probabilities.

 

[Job 33:6]

Yes .
You missed the most important part of Origin of life .Chemical evolution must be before biological evolution.
Darwin's has no knowledge of DNA at all . He does not know chemical evolution.

It seems like your concerns are with abiogenesis then, not actual descent with modification or the theory of evolution.

 

[The Barbarian]

Evolution thr theory that says that an amoeba converted into a fly, a cockroach, a banana, and a human. With nothing doing it, just because YES.

No wonder you hate evolution. If I thought it was like that, I wouldn't like it, either.

 

[The Barbarian]

I don't know why we are disagreeing every scientist evolutionist ever said there is no need for God with evolution... unless you believe God did it through evolution but that means God did it somehow, not like evolutionists say anyway.

Darwin, for example, opined that God created the first living things. You've been really, really misled about things.

 

[The Barbarian]

It seems like your concerns are with abiogenesis then, not actual descent with modification or the theory of evolution.

And that is basically a disagreement with God's word in Genesis. He says the Earth brought forth living things. This is the major theological disagreement between Christianity and creationism.

 

[sfs]

Yes , Any odds beyond 1 in 10to the pwer of 50 have a zero probability of ever happening.

This is completely wrong. It's not what Borel actually said, and it's not true. Take two decks of cards and shuffle them together. That arrangement of cards has a probability less than 1 in 10^50, and yet it happened.

 

[sfs]

You missed the most important part of Origin of life .Chemical evolution must be before biological evolution.

No. If life was created by direct divine miracle, that has no effect on how it evolved since then.

 

[sfs]

I am a retired doctor , I know DNA , I know statistics. Do you know Borel's Law ?

If you know statistics, what is the probability of getting any particular value of a continuously distributed random variable, like the exact time or position that some event occurs?

 

[johnnywong]

This is completely wrong. It's not what Borel actually said, and it's not true. Take two decks of cards and shuffle them together. That arrangement of cards has a probability less than 1 in 10^50, and yet it happened.

everything can happen , no matter the chance is not zero .
What I am talking about is you can't just get a wrong answer (evolution ) to the origin of Life .
You should just say "I don't know " , otherthan poisoning the youths by saying most of us believe in a wrong answer and publish it in every textbooks for kids!

 

[johnnywong]

No. If life was created by direct divine miracle, that has no effect on how it evolved since then.

Of course , God is powerful .
I say this just for the fools who believe in evolution

 

[johnnywong]

If you know statistics, what is the probability of getting any particular value of a continuously distributed random variable, like the exact time or position that some event occurs?

Your mathematicfs need critical thinking training.
You missed the point .The value is not a continuously distributed random variable to start with.

 

[johnnywong]

It seems like your concerns are with abiogenesis then, not actual descent with modification or the theory of evolution.

No ,there are 2 parts of theory of evolution.

First , origin of life .(from no life to life : chemical evolution .atoms>organic molecules >proteins>DNA>Life

Second , natural selection of Life ( the selection of better survival of animals with pre-designed DNA types to fit to the particular environment , this not necessary needs chemical evolution )

 

[Job 33:6]

No ,there are 2 parts of theory of evolution.

First , origin of life .(from no life to life : chemical evolution .atoms>organic molecules >proteins>DNA>Life

Second , natural selection of Life ( the selection of better survival of animals with pre-designed DNA types to fit to the particular environment , this not necessary needs chemical evolution )

Darwin never proposed a mechanism for the origins of life. What you're referring to is abiogenesis, not darwinian evolution.

If you disagree then perhaps you could share Darwin's explanation.

 

[sfs]

everything can happen , no matter the chance is not zero .

So why did you bring up this supposed law?

What I am talking about is you can't just get a wrong answer (evolution ) to the origin of Life .
You should just say "I don't know " ,

I don't know. No one knows. What I do know is that we share common ancestry with other species.