New Poll Shows 48% White Evangelicals Would Support Kavanaugh Even If He Assaulted Ford

[Nithavela]

Of course they would.

 

[Speedwell]

The thing is we are letting a chunk of 997 people be the voice of this situation. It really feels dishonest to make them the face. It's why I hate these current outrage polls.

What "outrage?" It's just a poll, confirming what we already know.

 

[jazzflower92]

What "outrage?" It's just a poll, confirming what we already know.

In other words, it more used for confirmation biases and to let people outrage.

 

[essentialsaltes]

The blogpost focused on evangelicals (and with good reason), but the poll itself interviewed all sorts of people. See page 15.

The only group with greater support for confirmation even if the accusations are true than white evangelicals (48%) was Republicans (54%).

 

[mark46]

I'm not surprised at all. I would simply note that there may be SOME in each political group who MIGHT be swayed if the FBI did the same job that they did in the Justice Thomas inquiry. In that case, after the very late accusation, the president asked the FBI to amend their backdrop check. The FBI took a week or two. We don't know how many were interviewed. However, in the extended hearings, there were TWENTY witness over three days. Justice Thomas was approved for the Court.

 

[hedrick]

Here's the actual poll results: http://maristpoll.marist.edu/wp-con...Poll_USA-NOS-and-Tables_1809251359.pdf#page=3.

I wish they had listed other religious groupings other than white evangelicals, but given the totals, most other groups must have had a lower percentage.

 

[Speedwell]

In other words, it more used for confirmation biases and to let people outrage.

What do you think the results should have been? Why do you think this poll i s about confirmation bias and outrage? You really should not be surprised that the political agenda of the Christian Right is more important to them than the misbehavior of the President or his court nominations. No "outrage," just facts.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

The thing is we are letting a chunk of 997 people be the voice of this situation. It really feels dishonest to make them the face. It's why I hate these current outrage polls.

Assuming that the respondents were selected randomly and proper sampling procedures were followed, a sample size of ~1000 is statistically significant. Looking at their sample distribution, that does seem to be the case.

Point of clarification though: the total sample size was 997, but only 19% (or ~190) identified as White Evangelical. Again though, that's still a large enough sample to draw meaningful conclusions within a few percent assuming that the respondents are roughly evenly distributed and not concentrated in particular parishes (which they shouldn't be in a national-level poll).

I work for a company that does non-political polling/surveying, so this is something that I'm reasonably knowledgeable about.

 

[bekkilyn]

It's no wonder Christianity is in sharp decline in the U.S.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Point of clarification though: the total sample size was 997, but only 19% (or ~190) identified as White Evangelical. Again though, that's still a large enough sample to draw meaningful conclusions within a few percent assuming that the respondents are roughly evenly distributed and not concentrated in particular parishes (which they shouldn't be in a national-level poll).

Right, the +/- goes roughly as 1 over the square root of the number of respondents. So with 1000 people, the error is 3%. With 190 it's about 7%. Even with that larger potential error, the white evangelical response is statistically different from the overall sample.

 

[rambot]

Perfect! I was right! The American Evangelical Christian does not, in fact, use their Christian discernment when it comes to an "R" behind a name.

Thankfully, I DID see it was a small sample size and I DESPERATELY hope and pray that it would not be the truth of the matter.

 

[rambot]

https://gritpost.com/catholic-jesuit-kavanaugh-endorsement/
Just tossing htis in here...

 

[variant]

Perfect! I was right! The American Evangelical Christian does not, in fact, use their Christian discernment when it comes to an "R" behind a name.

Thankfully, I DID see it was a small sample size and I DESPERATELY hope and pray that it would not be the truth of the matter.

You're being very generous. From what we've seen lately right wing "christians" religion is republicanism.

 

[FireDragon76]

What makes it "sensational?" It just confirms something we've known for a long time. Trump took conservative Evangelicals to the top of a high mountain and showed them a conservative Court which would overturn Roe v. Wade, Obergefell v. Hodges, Engel v. Vitale and maybe even Brown v. Board. Now their souls belong to him.

You summed it up. The idea that Trump is a modern day Cyrus is completely contrary to the message that Bonhoeffer proclaimed in his day to the German people, that Christians have no savior but Christ.

It is unfortunate to see American evangelicals falling into the same grave theological error that German Christians did.

 

[Fantine]

I take comfort in knowing that younger evangelicals are far more progressive than their elders. It is my hope that they will lead their parents into a new understanding of the gospel message of Jesus--one of love and compassion.

I admire the young evangelicals who stay connected to the churches of their youth, warts and all. I know if I had grown up as an evangelical I would have had great difficulty accepting their positions on many social justice issues.

I grew up Catholic and spent much of my twenties away from church--but Catholicism is very monolithic and patriarchal. It's difficult for laypeople to make a real difference. The good thing about evangelical churches is their independence. Young people can make a difference much more easily.

 

[Mountainmanbob]

New Poll Shows 48% White Evangelicals Would Support Kavanaugh Even If He Assaulted Ford


Members of our Church do not hold another's past against them.

Very forgiving.

For all have sinned.

M-Bob

 

[Albion]

A number of the people who were questioning Kavanaugh in that hearing have done things that are equal to or worse than what he was accused of by Ford--and not just while they were teenagers--yet millions of people, the voters in these Senators' respective home states, voted to have them be their representatives in Congress.

There shouldn't be any surprise when it comes to the outcome of this poll, therefore.

 

[TLK Valentine]

I'm not surprised at all. I would simply note that there may be SOME in each political group who MIGHT be swayed if the FBI did the same job that they did in the Justice Thomas inquiry. In that case, after the very late accusation, the president asked the FBI to amend their backdrop check. The FBI took a week or two. We don't know how many were interviewed. However, in the extended hearings, there were TWENTY witness over three days. Justice Thomas was approved for the Court.

Actually, the investigation into Anita Hill's allegations took three days.

 

[TLK Valentine]

A number of the people who were questioning Kavanaugh in that hearing have done things that are equal to or worse than what he was accused of by Ford--and not just while they were teenagers--yet millions of people, the voters in these Senators' respective home states, voted to have them be their representatives in Congress.

There shouldn't be any surprise when it comes to the outcome of this poll, therefore.

Evangelicals approve of this sort of behavior regardless of who does it?

Not exactly a ringing endorsement for evangelicals, is it?

 

[FireDragon76]

A number of the people who were questioning Kavanaugh in that hearing have done things that are equal to or worse than what he was accused of by Ford

There's not much worse than attempted rape, except perhaps attempted murder. So are you suggesting that somehow those senators are rapists or murderers?