Jakob Böhme (non duality)

[JM]

Bohme's theological works orthodox Christianity or do they lean toward something else like Gnosticism? I've read that Bohme's mystical experiences are close to a nondualism (advaita vedanta).

Thanks,

jm

 

[Petros2015]

Jesus, forgive my sins. Forgive the sins that I remember, and the sins I have forgotten.

Is that one of Bohme's prayers? It was pretty good.

 

[FireDragon76]

Jesus, forgive my sins. Forgive the sins that I remember, and the sins I have forgotten. Forgive my many failures in the face of temptation, and those times when I have been stubborn in the face of correction. Forgive the times I have been proud of my own achievements and those when I have failed to boast in your works. Forgive the harsh judgments I have made of others, and the leniency I have shown myself. Forgive the lies I have told to others, and the truths I have avoided. Forgive me the pain I have caused others and the indulgence I have shown myself. Jesus, have mercy on me and make me whole. Amen

Bohme's theological works orthodox Christianity or do they lean toward something else like Gnosticism? I've read that Bohme's mystical experiences are close to a nondualism (advaita vedanta).

Thanks,

jm

During his life, the local Lutheran clergy couldn't figure out what to make of him, so consequently he was never formally charged with heresy. Though some of his later disciples that settled in Russia were denounced as heretics by the local German emigrees and executed by the government.

At worst I've heard the accusation that Boehme sees conflict or violence within God, sort of God overcoming himself. I'm not sure that's exactly heretical, even if it's distasteful to some.

 

[JM]

Is that one of Bohme's prayers? It was pretty good.

No, sorry. I misquoted. It's a Presbyterian prayer.

 

[Not me]

I am a avid Jacob Boehme reader, and in no way is He a Gnostic writer, though he has been accused of that and many other things. I for one find Him one of the most compelling writers on “Christ as a living reality” in the believers life. As he stated “only be satisfied with the understanding God gives you of my writing, for to some more is given than others”.

Many people including myself have thought to stand on Jacob’s shoulders to see what he saw. But that is not to be. One can only see what he saw by having those truths born in them. But one can have as much of God as they would have. For scripture says “ you shall find me when you search for me with all your heart” and again “knock and the door will be opened to you” for one can only be brought into maturity the same way Jacob was by having a close personal relationship with Christ.

If your interested in Jacob’s writings you might want to check out Willam Law’s books he was a lover of Jacob’s writings.

The Spirit of Prayer
The Spirt of Love
The Way to Divine Knowledge

are a few of his titles, among others.

May you have a increase in Christ in your innermost being.

Much love in Christ, Not me

 

[JM]

I am a avid Jacob Boehme reader, and in no way is He a Gostic writer, though he has been accused of that and many other things. I for one find Him one of the most compelling writers on Christ as a living reality in the believers life. As he stated “only be satisfied with the understanding God gives you of my writing, for to some more is given than others”.

Many people including myself have thought to stand on Jacob’s shoulders to see what he saw. But that is not to be. One can only see what he saw by having those truths born in them. But one can have as much of God as they would have. For scripture says “ you shall find me when you search for me with all your heart” and again “knock and the door will be opened to you” for one can only be brought into maturity the same way Jacob was by having a close personal relationship with Christ.

If your interested in Jacob’s writings you might want to check out Willam Law’s books he was a lover of Jacob’s writings.

The Spirit of Prayer
The Spirt of Love
The Way to Divine Knowledge

are a few of his titles, among others.

May you have a increase in Christ in your innermost being.

Much love in Christ, Not me

Thanks for the information.

 

[Not me]

Thanks for the information.

Your more than welcome. If God opens Jacob’s writings to you please share what you see. Though I have read all of Jacob’s and most of Law’s works, I understand so little of them. But what I have understood has open up my relationship with Christ in such a living way, I have no words to describe but to say “God is good”, and as long as I grow a little more each day toward Him, I’m a happy camper.

Much love in Christ, Not me

 

[JM]

Your more than welcome. If God opens Jacob’s writings to you please share what you see. Though I have read all of Jacob’s and most of Law’s works, I understand so little of them. But what I have understood has open up my relationship with Christ in such a living way, I have no words to describe but to say “God is good”, and as long as I grow a little more each day toward Him, I’m a happy camper.

Much love in Christ, Not me

I've read Law's Serious Call. Do you know if it deals with Boehme's ideas?

 

[Not me]

I've read Law's Serious Call. Do you know if it deals with Boehme's ideas?

Law wrote “Serious call” before he was familiar with Boehme writings. There is a great difference in his writings before and after he read Boehme.

If you are familiar with Andrew Murray, he updated and edited a part of one of Laws books under the title “dying to self/ freedom from a self-centered life” it’s out of print but you can still find it on eBay. That’s how I got introduced to Law and Boehme.

Freedom from a Self-Centered Life by William Law, 1977 pb, ISBN: 0871231042 9780871231048 | eBay

Much love in Christ, Not me

 

[JM]

Not me, would you say the experiences related in Böhme's works are nondualistic?

 

[Not me]

Not me, would you say the experiences related in Böhme's works are nondualistic?

Don’t know what you mean?

Jacob taught Christ as one’s life, and getting to know Jesus personally. As far as I have grown and understand his writings. ???

Be blessed as we grow in Christ, Not me

 

[JM]

It's long but better than I can explain.

Basically, nondualism is knowing Christ through direct experience.

 

[Not me]

It's long but better than I can explain.

Basically, nondualism is knowing Christ through direct experience.

After having listened to the video, this, (by my understanding of what Jacob taught), is what he taught against. Human reasonings trying to understand the things of God.

For as Jacob taught “our salvation in Christ consists of the life of Christ in us”

For we can get to know God personally, for this is what Christianity is;

Getting to know and having a personal relationship with one’s Creator. Not as the speaker said “God is unknowable”.

Hope this helps with your search after truth, Not me