Is the use of technology and artificial intelligence by the Antichrist inferred in end time prophesy

[Kaon]

I kind of know what you mean. I guess I just have control issues. I could see how people would be on board with the thought at first, but the more you think about it and think about how companies treat us now, the more it's like, yeah I'm all set.

I see what you mean now; I agree.

But, cultural influences and pressure make people to do insane things. It is trendy to interface in this day; consider the social ridicule and hardship you could face being one of few people who are fully natural in a fully interfaced technological world.

They will say those people are radicals, terrorists and stone-age-mentality thinkers who are afraid of the future, and toss them aside. It already happens now, it is just under the guise of advancing freedom, and global economic and social unity.

 

[The Times]

The Anti Christ utopia is a world within a world. An augmented reality that uses technology. Look at how technology today is augmenting our present day reality.

 

[mindlight]

I hope this is the right forum to post this. I apologize if its not. I post this not because it is a hot button topic of late because of people in the secular world such as tech moguls, physicists, scientists, and even the U.N. finally coming to their senses and speaking out an ominous word of warning ,but because I believe that I was revealed this by the grace of God more than 20 years ago and I haven't been able to find anyone preaching more than half of the truth with very little references to back it up. I will not try to document every scripture inference to prove my belief in this summary I will go into detail if anyone so wishes. I do believe though that not only is there much more prophesy than the general broad belief that the image of the beast with the power to talk is a.i., many of the wonders the the antichrist is allowed to do can only be done with advanced technology, And some of the atrocities done during the tribulation point to a super computer, hive mind with modern technological weaponry. I'd love to hear if anyone else believes that they have been shown this and what proof of scripture they have been pointed to. I will say that I truly know that there are many levels to prophesy and most has more than 1 meaning. I believe that the general decoding of prophesy such as daniel 2 is very much correct but I believe some deeper spiritual prophesy is found in them that I am unable to find anyone talking about.

The devil - beast- false prophet dark trinity has a major weakness. It seeks to replace God but lacks the omniscience and omnipotence to take control from Him. But it seeks that control clinging to the vain hope that it can evolve to be greater than God.

The development of AI allows the possibility of super fast processing and collation of as much human knowledge as can be made available online. But the database will never be comprehensive even on this planet and a great many will die rather than surrender to the beast control or knowledge. Also AI can also be used against the dark Trinity and is not therefore an evil in itself.

 

[Dave L]

While I agree with what you are saying as far as it being a fundamental problem when people value the opinions of men over the opinions of God, I think that is a clear message that comes from the Bible and not specifically in regards to the mark.

I think the mark will be as black and white as it gets.

I think it will be plain as day:

Joshua 24:15 King James Version (KJV)
15 And if it seem evil unto you to serve the Lord, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.

If the mark is as plain as it gets, no body would receive it. Even the hint of such a mark would tell them the futurists were right and cause serious resistance.

 

[Dave L]

Wow, maybe just answer my original question instead of dodging it? A dialogue doesn't start without a baseline understanding, which you are avoiding.

I know where to draw the line between the obviously literal and the obviously symbolic. It's important for a proper understanding of Revelation.

 

[Sorn]

Problems with this theory:

Programming languages always have back doors.

Competing companies and countries would be more than happy to hack each other's bots.

If everything goes solar powered(independent power supplied) and wireless, there is no single kill button.

If computers are taught to create their own languages and programming, within 20-50 years of that no one will know how the programming works because no one will have learned it anymore.

Any AI device that could control a weapon or weapons (as the AIs postulated here might have) will have several layers of safeguards and ways to send a kill command.
It could even have deadman triggers where unless a constant positive signal keeps being received it will shut down.
Nothing that can program itself in ways we can't understand will ever have a chance to control much more than a toy.

 

[Sorn]

Until and unless we ever fully understand the human brain and what consciousness is and how it operates it will just be fantasy to propose 'uploading' to a computer.


Thinking aliens have anything to do with the end times doesn't stand up to scrutiny. How and why would they pass themselves off as anything other than extraterrestrial life?

 

[Steven Wood]

The devil - beast- false prophet dark trinity has a major weakness. It seeks to replace God but lacks the omniscience and omnipotence to take control from Him. But it seeks that control clinging to the vain hope that it can evolve to be greater than God.

The development of AI allows the possibility of super fast processing and collation of as much human knowledge as can be made available online. But the database will never be comprehensive even on this planet and a great many will die rather than surrender to the beast control or knowledge. Also AI can also be used against the dark Trinity and is not therefore an evil in itself.

I agree. Not only can A.I be used for good, like all things the enemy tries to use but since the have no spirit, it can't be inherently evil

 

[akaDaScribe]

Any AI device that could control a weapon or weapons (as the AIs postulated here might have) will have several layers of safeguards and ways to send a kill command.
It could even have deadman triggers where unless a constant positive signal keeps being received it will shut down.
Nothing that can program itself in ways we can't understand will ever have a chance to control much more than a toy.

How much of the

Any AI device that could control a weapon or weapons (as the AIs postulated here might have) will have several layers of safeguards and ways to send a kill command.
It could even have deadman triggers where unless a constant positive signal keeps being received it will shut down.
Nothing that can program itself in ways we can't understand will ever have a chance to control much more than a toy.

You have to consider sabotage. It is the most likely way things could go wrong. Everything you've pointed out could be hacked.

Just by switching the characters of the text, creating an algorithm that randomly places empty spaces, and changing some of the sequence of the code, the code would be un-interpretible. They could figure it out given enough time, but by then the damage would be done. I just jotted this out in a couple of minutes. Imagine what a government or large organization could do.

 

[Sorn]

You have to consider sabotage

What, so an enemy govt sabotages an AI so that it can take over the world an subjugate not only the country that made it but the govt that sabotaged it!... Thats what you are proposing? ...seriously

 

[akaDaScribe]

What, so an enemy govt sabotages an AI so that it can take over the world an subjugate not only the country that made it but the govt that sabotaged it!... Thats what you are proposing? ...seriously

Why are people messing with biological weapons when they could end up killing us all? Why are the making genetic modifications that could end up killing the food supply? The answer is always the same. People in their arrogance assume they can control things that are are much bigger than them.

 

[Sorn]

Why are people messing with biological weapons when they could end up killing us all? Why are the making genetic modifications that could end up killing the food supply? The answer is always the same. People in their arrogance assume they can control things that are are much bigger than them.

But no one is going to sabotage an AI to the point that it could wreak havoc on the world in an uncontrolled way. It would be much easier to send some agents into a country and have them release bio-toxins to kill millions like you said. At least its a more predictable outcome.

 

[akaDaScribe]

But no one is going to sabotage an AI to the point that it could wreak havoc on the world in an uncontrolled way. It would be much easier to send some agents into a country and have them release bio-toxins to kill millions like you said. At least its a more predictable outcome.

The point is that people take outrageous risks on a regular basis. Smarter people who are arrogant always assume that they've thought of everything and they have it covered.

For example, they probably would have extremely tight measures for weapons. Do they have the same measures for traffic lights? thermostats? GPS systems? Bridges? Oil refineries? dams? prison systems? I'm not going to keep going because I'm not trying to give people ideas, but I think you can see what I'm saying.

What would happen if someone could bring the internet down for a week?

 

[Sorn]

What would happen if someone could bring the internet down for a week?

You mean we'd have to talk to our families!! No!!!, ok, you win beasty, ill accept the mark, just don't make me do that!.

Do they have the same measures for traffic lights? thermostats? GPS systems? Bridges? Oil refineries? dams? prison systems?

No, but security is being improved all the time. The antichrist is hardly going to control the world by turning thermostats up. Again, all this can be done now but isn't because its a lame way to cause mischief.

 

[akaDaScribe]

You mean we'd have to talk to our families!! No!!!, ok, you win beasty, ill accept the mark, just don't make me do that!.

No, but security is being improved all the time. The antichrist is hardly going to control the world by turning thermostats up. Again, all this can be done now but isn't because its a lame way to cause mischief.

You mean we'd have to talk to our families!! No!!!, ok, you win beasty, ill accept the mark, just don't make me do that!.

Cute, but I am referring to the financial collapse and the dominoes that would follow.

No, but security is being improved all the time. The antichrist is hardly going to control the world by turning thermostats up. Again, all this can be done now but isn't because its a lame way to cause mischief.

I'm not sure whether or not you are aware circulation systems are in buildings, but beyond that, yes, people dying or getting sick from the heat or cold in large numbers would cause mass chaos as well.

Also they are making more and more things with wireless connectivity. In short, they are making absolutely everything accessible from the internet.

If you work in computers at all, you have to know that security is pretty weak beyond the novice. The biggest reason for that is probably that they are more interested in pushing ahead as quickly as possible than security. Also, from a competitive perspective, people prefer convenience to security. (until they get breached)

 

[Mantishand]

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[akaDaScribe]

Reading Psalms today and I am seeing “mans wicked devices” and such over and over. The term “device” is used for a cell phone.

The Tower of Babel

(Daniel 1:1-7)

1And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech. 2And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there. 3And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them throughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter. 4And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth. 5And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded. 6And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do. 7Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech. 8So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city. 9Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.

Can you say deja vu?

 

[Neogaia777]

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[sdowney717]

If the mark is as plain as it gets, no body would receive it. Even the hint of such a mark would tell them the futurists were right and cause serious resistance.

Except people will not be in their right mind.
God sends on them a strong delusion to believe the LIE because they refuse to love Christ.
And the devil also deceives them with signs, lying wonders, false miracles.
Those people of that time will not be your normal everyday type people.
They will be insane and unreasoning, brutishly animalistic, like natural brute beasts, filled with demons and demonic doctrines.

 

[Dave L]

Except people will not be in their right mind.
God sends on them a strong delusion to believe the LIE because they refuse to love Christ.
And the devil also deceives them with signs, lying wonders, false miracles.
Those people of that time will not be your normal everyday type people.
They will be insane and unreasoning, brutishly animalistic, like natural brute beasts, filled with demons and demonic doctrines.

This has been happening. Many have unwittingly received the mark from the first appearance of Antichrist in John's day until now.