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Space suits... the "nail" in the coffin?

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I love this.

I mean, apart from the fact that the ISS isn't a NASA installation, but who cares when Americans think everything is American....

No, what I love is the idea that NASA could fake all their missions, moon landings, the ISS, space walks etc, but instead of faking a series of vacuum chamber tests, they decide to use a pool and give flat earthers a reason to question the whole conspiracy.

Couldn't fake a vacuum chamber....filled (or not) with air.....which is invisible....

Everything regarding space is controlled by the NASA/UN
https://history.nasa.gov/1967treaty.html

Good point, only they wouldn't be floating like in supposed space. They tried that in the Moon-walk studios with cables, and realized it does look terribly fake;


so Next they used Zero-G planes


But not too many Astro-Nots could stomach this to get enough footage for "living in the ISS", so next, they turned to Green-Screen and CGI images, along with cables which they could touch up with Photo Shop:


Notice TPTB (Powers That Be) removed the sound. Money is Power to shut us up to keep the secrets secret.



This one still has sound:
 
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Everything regarding space is controlled by the NASA/UN
https://history.nasa.gov/1967treaty.html

A treaty doesn't equal control.

You might want to tell the Russians - the people who were actually in space first, and beat the US to every single space milestone bar the moonwalk, that they answer to NASA.

Also - I suspect the Chinese don't report to NASA either. :wave:
 
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You do realize, Aldebarn, that if the globe is a lie...... then all of us have been believing a lie to be reality. Thus, those that refuse to investigate, have no interest in being taught otherwise.

We really need to have a solid determination, one way or the other, before one can tell the other that they are believing a lie.

I do agree, however, that you and I have exhausted each others points and neither is going to convince the other....

I respect you and your right to your view... all that I ask is that you return that respect as I investigate and personally search for the solid truth in this matter.

The problem is that no amount of evidence will ever convince you, it will always be a lie. I have sailed around the planet in the US Navy and with very few exceptions, such as traveling the coast of the African continent, the sun rose behind us. We did not fall off the edge of a flat earth.
 
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The problem is that no amount of evidence will ever convince you, it will always be a lie. I have sailed around the planet in the US Navy and with very few exceptions, such as traveling the coast of the African continent, the sun rose behind us. We did not fall off the edge of a flat earth.
But did you ever see the water curve?
 
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But did you ever see the water curve?

No, and I can’t see Milwaukee from Michigan, even with a powerful telescope, something that a flat earth would easily facilitate.
 
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A treaty doesn't equal control.

You might want to tell the Russians - the people who were actually in space first, and beat the US to every single space milestone bar the moonwalk, that they answer to NASA.

Also - I suspect the Chinese don't report to NASA either. :wave:

To Russia; "40 years of all the wheat you need, if you give us all the info you accumulated trying to go into space, and what you found out and keep it a secret", and to China "we'll shut down our factories, lay off tens of thousands of our workers and we'll make them buy your 'stuff'" .. is a powerful thing.
There is a lot more to NASA than space exploration. You don't actually think that hundreds of Nazis who were closely working with Hitler came over to "work" for the people of U.S. do you?
 
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The problem is that no amount of evidence will ever convince you, it will always be a lie. I have sailed around the planet in the US Navy and with very few exceptions, such as traveling the coast of the African continent, the sun rose behind us. We did not fall off the edge of a flat earth.

Hello Aryeh Jay, .. You traveled in a big circle around the N-pole, making constant adjustments without even noticing you went in a big circle, .. not around a globe. And I bet the water was level as you went, and as far as you could see too, right?

You cannot "fall off the edge" just as we can't drill down more than what, .. seven miles, or rockets go up for more than so many miles. Watch all the rockets NASA plays with, they all turn and go off into the ocean. This is because God put unpassable obstacles before we could reach any end.
The Bible says there is "ends to the world":

Romans 10:18
But I say, have they not heard? Yes indeed: “Their sound has gone out to all the earth, And their words to the ends of the world.”

I believe God would know the difference between "ends of the world" and "around the globe", .. don't you think?

God bless you, and welcome to Gods Flat Earth!
 
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Watch all the rockets NASA plays with, they all turn and go off into the ocean. This is because God put unpassable obstacles before we could reach any end.

Considering the fact that there were 5 space shuttles, and 135 missions in total, are you suggesting that there were actually 135 shuttles and that they're all sitting at the bottom of the ocean? Then I guess those who search for shipwrecks (and have been finding quite a few new ones) are having a really hard time finding all those gleaming white shuttles that are down there.

Also, why didn't these launches end up in the ocean?

 
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Hello Aryeh Jay, .. You traveled in a big circle around the N-pole, making constant adjustments without even noticing you went in a big circle, .. not around a globe. And I bet the water was level as you went, and as far as you could see too, right?

You cannot "fall off the edge" just as we can't drill down more than what, .. seven miles, or rockets go up for more than so many miles. Watch all the rockets NASA plays with, they all turn and go off into the ocean. This is because God put unpassable obstacles before we could reach any end.
The Bible says there is "ends to the world":

Romans 10:18
But I say, have they not heard? Yes indeed: “Their sound has gone out to all the earth, And their words to the ends of the world.”

I believe God would know the difference between "ends of the world" and "around the globe", .. don't you think?

God bless you, and welcome to Gods Flat Earth!

Thanks for the invite to the flat earth but I’ll stay on God’s round earth. Funny thing when I was traveling around the earth, we lost sight of the North Star for a few weeks and saw constellations I have never seen before like the Southern Cross. I keep trying to find it every night I sit outside watching the satellites orbit the earth and can’t seem to find it.
 
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Thanks for the invite to the flat earth but I’ll stay on God’s round earth. Funny thing when I was traveling around the earth, we lost sight of the North Star for a few weeks and saw constellations I have never seen before like the Southern Cross. I keep trying to find it every night I sit outside watching the satellites orbit the earth and can’t seem to find it.

These are things people will see when they travel the earth and see what's there. Those who sit behind a computer screen and watch Youtube videos and listen to conspiracy theories see much less. Perhaps the real conspiracy is that people are being encouraged through technology to do everything "virtually" rather than actually looking at the real thing. There's nothing like actually being there!

For a long time, I've been telling FE people to get a telescope and actually look at the stars, the planets and other things that are up there so they can see for themselves what Jupiter looks like, whether the moon is solid, or is a giant light bulb in the sky, etc. but they are unwilling.
 
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These are things people will see when they travel the earth and see what's there. Those who sit behind a computer screen and watch Youtube videos and listen to conspiracy theories see much less. Perhaps the real conspiracy is that people are being encouraged through technology to do everything "virtually" rather than actually looking at the real thing. There's nothing like actually being there!

For a long time, I've been telling FE people to get a telescope and actually look at the stars, the planets and other things that are up there so they can see for themselves what Jupiter looks like, whether the moon is solid, or is a giant light bulb in the sky, etc. but they are unwilling.

The fact that it is almost 5AM tomorrow in Australia, and winter as well, is proof enough for me the earth is round.
 
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The fact that it is almost 5AM tomorrow in Australia, and winter as well, is proof enough for me the earth is round.

If anyone needed proof of that, they could call someone in Australia and find out for themselves. Or, they could view a live cam feed right now. As I'm posting this at 1:58pm local time, it is daytime where I am in the midwest. According to the Australia live cam, it is dark. Like you said, about 5am.
https://www.skylinewebcams.com/en/webcam/australia/new-south-wales/sydney/rose-bay-sydney.html
 
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Yea Space suits are nail to the coffin .
Nasa says that they train under water to mimic space conditions when they will be outside repairing the station.

But inside of water you have pressure trying to squeeze you while in vacum you have pressure trying to tear you apart , these are two different ones.
 
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Yea Space suits are nail to the coffin .
Nasa says that they train under water to mimic space conditions when they will be outside repairing the station.

But inside of water you have pressure trying to squeeze you while in vacum you have pressure trying to tear you apart , these are two different ones.

NASA does not train everyone that goes into space. Was NASA somehow able to get to Mirosław Hermaszewski and have him lie too?
 
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Yea Space suits are nail to the coffin .
Nasa says that they train under water to mimic space conditions when they will be outside repairing the station.

But inside of water you have pressure trying to squeeze you while in vacum you have pressure trying to tear you apart , these are two different ones.

Wrong about how they test space suits.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/this-is-how-nasa-tests-its-spacesuits/

What you see them do under water is when they are practicing a spacewalk mission to repair a satellite before they actually go into space. It's not to test whether or not the spacesuits are leak-proof.
 
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Wrong about how they test space suits.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/this-is-how-nasa-tests-its-spacesuits/

What you see them do under water is when they are practicing a spacewalk mission to repair a satellite before they actually go into space. It's not to test whether or not the spacesuits are leak-proof.

Yea they tested only once in vacum chamber because people would die in these suits if you put them in vacum , moreover It would make more sense to test them in vacum and not under water .
 
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That is a lot of money just to perpetuate a hoax that was easily disproven by the ancient Greeks by simply looking down a well at noon.

But on a side note, to all that really believe in the flat earth, good for you, keep the faith and don’t stop believing.

Because you are helping my kids get better jobs by having fewer people to compete against.
 
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To Russia; "40 years of all the wheat you need, if you give us all the info you accumulated trying to go into space, and what you found out and keep it a secret", and to China "we'll shut down our factories, lay off tens of thousands of our workers and we'll make them buy your 'stuff'" .. is a powerful thing.
There is a lot more to NASA than space exploration. You don't actually think that hundreds of Nazis who were closely working with Hitler came over to "work" for the people of U.S. do you?

And no proof for any of this?

And what about the EU? What about other countries involved in satellite launches? Private companies? I used to work for a company that had its own satellites and managed them internally. I suppose they were paid off by NASA as well?

We must be up past 10 million conspirators by now.
 
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But on a side note, to all that really believe in the flat earth, good for you, keep the faith and don’t stop believing.

Because you are helping my kids get better jobs by having fewer people to compete against.

Agreed. I really can't believe the anti-intellectualism in these theories, but I guess if enough people are involved they will stay clear of any technology-related work and market demand should help my pay increase.
 
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