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What I think kicks off the binding and 1000 years of physical reign on earth is the Second Coming in Revelation 19
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Is the 1000 year kingdom literal?
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Rev5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth
1000 yrs Kingdom is not literal, It was began from eternity until eternity ( valid from Adam until His last sojourner in this old earth 1Pet1:17 ), because He had had already plan before the creation of the world about us Eph1:4 ( names those had been written before the creation of the world in His book of life ) .
His kingdom communities surely will bring glory to Him , because we understood that “salvation is by God Grace alone” ( this is the purpose of creation Isa43:7) , but His people who lived in OT / before Jesus not yet understood that time , so to them were said:” And white robes were given unto every one of them”Rev6:11 compared to Rev7:9 ( already wore white robes, they lived in NT , included us ).
Rev11:17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O LORD God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned
Mat13:38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one
He has been sending His people (names in the book of life before the foundation of the world) to sojourn here from Adam until the last name (1Pet1:17) ,when we were born physically , we were said as the children of Kingdom /His people /the chosen , by His own deeds/His Grace we are purified to be saved , in that victory moment we were said as saved/regenerated /winners/likened enter Canaan in OT = His Kingdom communities.
So the 1000 yrs Kingdom is spiritual Kingdom , began from The cross until forever, all the Kingdom communities understood well that the salvation is by God’s Grace alone there is no contribution of men works here Isa26:12 ( the spiritual meaning of Sabbath law =who works on Sabbath day shall be punished to death = Salvation is by God Grace alone ), in these time ( after the cross) the devils began to realize that their time is getting over so they surely act radically to harm us , for our sake then they should be restrained said as “ chained and sealed in the bottomless pit for the 1000 yrs “ so when the last name in the book of life has already sent to this earth for sojourning and has already processed well ( the result will be : win or lose Rev3:5 ), so in this time is said : “the devils surely will be freed for a little while” Rev20:7 , “And when the thousand years are expire “ Rev20:7 ,“And when they(two witness) shall have finished their testimony “Rev11:7 .
So we know now what “ when the 1000 yrs is over “ means ?, surely not the Kingdom is over Rev11:15 but started from that time there is no new member will enter the Kingdom of God/ all His plan from the foundation of the world has already been conducted well /has come to pass, so started from that time this perishable world being over, started from that time Rev14:13 shall work , started from that time Jer23:20 shall come to pass .
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Amen given our King sits on His Throne now.
This comes to mind:
Ephesians 1: NASB
9He made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His kind intention which He purposed in Him 10with a view to an administration suitable to the fullness of the times, that is, the summing up of all things in Christ, things in the heavens and things on the earth.
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Interesting. Do you see mortals who survived the judgments in the 1000 year reign?
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Hi what interesting thread I have read many of the posts and its amazing what a wide variety of lenses people are seeing the scriptures through. The Bible if it is Gods word will contain not contradictions. Our debate with each other
Hi yes it is literal 1000 years. In Rev we see the angels proclaim the kingdoms of this earth have become the kingdoms of the LORD and His Christ and He shall reign forever. Remember Jesus was tempted by the devil and offered all the kingdoms of the world if He would bow to Satan. They were his to offer. This goes back to Gen when God created man and gave him dominion over the earth. Man fell and the prophecy was the seed of the woman would crush the head of the serpent and their would be enmity between the seed of the serpent and the seed of the woman. The LORD is yet to crush the head of the serpent. Dan 2 and 7 both describe the coming kingdom but Zech 14 is the clearest passage of the 2nd coming and it proves life continues after the LORD is king over all the earth. Zech describes Jerusalem being overrun by the nations and the LORD comes to fight in that day. He comes with His saints and melts them Indiana Jones style. It says His feet will stand on the MT of Olive and it will split in two forming a new river that flows year round. It says in that day the LORD is king over all the earth. It says that form that day on all the nations must come to Jerusalem or they will get no rain. This again shows a continuation of events on earth. The Rev 1000 years has Satan being released but he has lost his dominion and authority. So when he is released one last rebellion is tolerated and then it is the end of the age. The great white throne and the new heaven and earth are not the of the kingdom but the transfer of the kingdom from this earth to the new heaven and earth. Jesus dominion is continual. Dan 7
11 “I watched then because of the sound of the pompous words which the horn was speaking; I watched till the beast was slain, and its body destroyed and given to the burning flame. 12 As for the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away, yet their lives were prolonged for a season and a time.
13 “I was watching in the night visions,
And behold, One like the Son of Man,
Coming with the clouds of heaven!
He came to the Ancient of Days,
And they brought Him near before Him.
14 Then to Him was given dominion and glory and a kingdom,
That all peoples, nations, and languages should serve Him.
His dominion is an everlasting dominion,
Which shall not pass away,
And His kingdom the one
Which shall not be destroyed.
In this passage we see as in Rev the one speaking the pompous words is given to the flames but the rest of the beasts had their lives prolonged a season and a time. The pompous one is antichrist and thrown into the fire. The beast are Satan and his final judgment of life is prolonged 1000 is the seas and the time is the short time he is released. The heart of this debate is replacement theology. The allegorical method create so many passages that place you in the place of either adding or taking away from the book or making a private interpretation of it.
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Do you believe that the 42 Months reign of the Beast mentioned in Revelation 13:5-9
Revelation 13:5-9
5 and there was given to him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and there was given to him authority to continue forty and two months.
6 And he opened his mouth for blasphemies against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, [even] them that dwell in the heaven.
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and there was given to him authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation.
...when people who will refuse to take the mark and who will refuse to worship the Beast and his image will be killed [Revelation 13:13-16] ...WILL happen BEFORE the Coming of Jesus ?
Revelation 13:13-16
13 And he doeth great signs, that he should even make fire to come down out of heaven upon the earth in the sight of men.
14 And he deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by reason of the signs which it was given him to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast who hath the stroke of the sword and lived.
15 And it was given [unto him] to give breath to it, [even] to the image to the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as should not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
16 And he causeth all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the bond, that there be given them a mark on their right hand, or upon their forehead; 17 and that no man should be able to buy or to sell, save he that hath the mark, [even] the name of the beast or the number of his name.
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The Apocalyptic Part of the Book of Revelation[ Revelation 8 Through Revelation 18 ]WILL END AT THE COMING OF JESUS [Revelation 19] TO ESTABLISH HIS 1,000 YEARS Reign ON THE EARTH with the Resurrected SAINTS MARTYRS [Revelation 20:4-6]Jesus will reign over the Nations with a rod of iron until the LAST ENNEMY DEATH [ANOTHER NAME FOR SATAN IS CAST INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE.
Then Jesus will deliver the Earthly Kingdom to His Father ...[That Will happen After the 1,000 Years]... AFTER the Great White Throne Judgment [Revelation 20:7-15 ]..when The City of God Will Descend on the New Earth...Revelation 21 Revelation 22 And that God the Father will dwell among men on the New Earth.
In other words the 1,000 years reign of Jesus on the Earth will be the beginning of the eternal Kingdom of God on the Earth.
The Amils for some reason are terrorized by the Biblical Fact that Jesus will one day Physically rule the Nations with a rod of Iron...Here ON THE EARTH .
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Your problem in understanding Revelation is common today. You look for the symbol to appear. And this will never happen. This is why you are a futurist. Because you do not need to deal with your failure to produce hard tangible evidence to support your theories. It's all in the future...so you say.
But, if you look for what the symbols of Revelation depict, you can see them throughout history and know what to expect in the future. From the time John wrote Revelation until the end of the world.
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Yes, but the dragon symbolizes Satan. So we have many symbols that John explains once in a while.
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If you think Christ rules on this rotten, sin-cursed world, you are ignoring 2 Peter 3:10-13, which says this world is going to be burned up on the day of the Lord, when He returns as a thief.
In Galatians 4:24-27, Paul says out home is now "above".
The same idea is found in Hebrews 11:15-16.
New Jerusalem is our future home.
Based on Psalm 2, Christ destroys the wicked with the rod of Iron, He does not use it to threaten people, like a school-master.
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Revelation 20 is partitioned into the summary of three sequential events, they being.....
The 1000 years
The Judgement of Satan
The Judgement of the Dead
The 1000 years is like this.....
He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be set free for a short time.
Notice what follows "until the thousand years were ended".......THEN......THEN......AFTER THE 1000 years.......
I saw thrones..... I saw the souls......They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
This is leading into the Judgement of the Dead, when the books are opened.
But, wait one moment......the confusion lies in the next verse......
The rest of the dead did not come to life until (or after) the thousand years were ended.
The lead in of the definite article the 1000 years is Christ's a 1000 years at the Judgement of the Dead, the day Jesus said I will raise you up on the Last Day. So the rest of the Dead that did not get resurrected at the Judgement of the Dead, after the the 1000 years of Satan's chaining come to fulfilment.
So, in essence you have Satan's the 1000 years definite article, which has just expired, leading into the judgment of the Dead, which coincides with the resurrection on the last day and Christ's eternal a 1000 years reign, post first earth and first heavens, when the books are opened.
There is two 1000 years, not to be confused with each other. The first which is Satan's is a lead in to the last day in the singular and the beginning of Christ's a 1000 years in the new earth and the new Heaven.
Now we consider the Judgement of Satan
the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown.
Remember the 1st battle, the battle of Armageddon, the 1st century Beast and the False religious Prophet of the Pharisiacal desolate house was permanently destroyed (Lake of Fire), coinciding with Satan's 1000 year chaining.
Now when Satan's 1000 years are up, he is released to deceive the nations again in the final battle of Gog and Magog for the last and final time, before he too is permanently destroyed in the Lake of Fire, which signals the time of the Judgement of the Dead, as the 1st earth and the 1st heavens pass away and those not raised after the 1000 years, their fate is determined in the third sequence of events.....
I saw a great white throne and Jesus Christ who was seated on it. The 1st earth and the 1st heavens fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened.
Those not raised after Satan's 1000 years are not written in the book of life.
Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. Death and Hell gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what they had done.
This is the finale where the second death points to a discontinuance of death, both biological and spiritual and death and Hell cannot continue past this point.
Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire.
Death and Hell as the final enemy must be totally and utterly destroyed and this is the second death, the death of the soul.
The lake of fire is the second death. Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.
The complication of the verse below no longer becomes complicated....
The rest of the dead did not come to life until (or after) the thousand years were ended.
The 1000 years
The Judgement of Satan
The Judgement of the Dead
The 1000 years is like this.....
He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be set free for a short time.
Notice what follows "until the thousand years were ended".......THEN......THEN......AFTER THE 1000 years.......
I saw thrones..... I saw the souls......They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
This is leading into the Judgement of the Dead, when the books are opened.
But, wait one moment......the confusion lies in the next verse......
The rest of the dead did not come to life until (or after) the thousand years were ended.
The lead in of the definite article the 1000 years is Christ's a 1000 years at the Judgement of the Dead, the day Jesus said I will raise you up on the Last Day. So the rest of the Dead that did not get resurrected at the Judgement of the Dead, after the the 1000 years of Satan's chaining come to fulfilment.
So, in essence you have Satan's the 1000 years definite article, which has just expired, leading into the judgment of the Dead, which coincides with the resurrection on the last day and Christ's eternal a 1000 years reign, post first earth and first heavens, when the books are opened.
There is two 1000 years, not to be confused with each other. The first which is Satan's is a lead in to the last day in the singular and the beginning of Christ's a 1000 years in the new earth and the new Heaven.
Now we consider the Judgement of Satan
the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown.
Remember the 1st battle, the battle of Armageddon, the 1st century Beast and the False religious Prophet of the Pharisiacal desolate house was permanently destroyed (Lake of Fire), coinciding with Satan's 1000 year chaining.
Now when Satan's 1000 years are up, he is released to deceive the nations again in the final battle of Gog and Magog for the last and final time, before he too is permanently destroyed in the Lake of Fire, which signals the time of the Judgement of the Dead, as the 1st earth and the 1st heavens pass away and those not raised after the 1000 years, their fate is determined in the third sequence of events.....
I saw a great white throne and Jesus Christ who was seated on it. The 1st earth and the 1st heavens fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened.
Those not raised after Satan's 1000 years are not written in the book of life.
Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. Death and Hell gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what they had done.
This is the finale where the second death points to a discontinuance of death, both biological and spiritual and death and Hell cannot continue past this point.
Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire.
Death and Hell as the final enemy must be totally and utterly destroyed and this is the second death, the death of the soul.
The lake of fire is the second death. Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.
The complication of the verse below no longer becomes complicated....
The rest of the dead did not come to life until (or after) the thousand years were ended.
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I think you are rearranging the chronology to fit your theory here.
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In summary we have the battle of Armageddon in the 1st century between Jesus, his Church (the pregnant woman), those with the testimony of Jesus and the Red Dragon (Devil), the Beast (Herodian Dynasty Kings) and the False Prophet (Pharisiacal Religious System).
The Beast and False Prophet are destroyed in 70AD, Satan can no longer wield them to persecute the Woman with 12 star (12 founding disciples). Therefore Satan is chained/prevented.
At the end of the 1000 years, Satan is released for a very short time as the Black Dragon of Apostasy and thereby this Apostasy is to deceive the nations again. Then Jesus defeats him in the Battle of Gog and Magog, on God's Great Day of Battle.
The 1st earth and 1st heavens pass away, everyone has tasted the 1st death (biological death), then is judged (White throne Judgement), at the Judgement of the Dead when the books are opened.
Those raised will be ushered into a 1000 year reign with Christ in the new earth and the new heaven (singular) and the rest are not raised and are annihilated in the Lake of Fire, which is the second death. Satan, biological and spiritual death and Hell cannot continue past this point as the last enemy death is permanently destroyed.
Jesus now becomes the subject of the Father, meaning he has defeated death and brought all who were written in the book of life to the Father's house. This implies that the Cross has run its course and made all the subjects that were to be written in the book of life and thereby Christ being made subject to the Father, means that he has fulfilled his role as the saviour, now God is all in all and what continues from this moment onward is eternity within the nexus of God of many rooms/dimensions.
The Beast and False Prophet are destroyed in 70AD, Satan can no longer wield them to persecute the Woman with 12 star (12 founding disciples). Therefore Satan is chained/prevented.
At the end of the 1000 years, Satan is released for a very short time as the Black Dragon of Apostasy and thereby this Apostasy is to deceive the nations again. Then Jesus defeats him in the Battle of Gog and Magog, on God's Great Day of Battle.
The 1st earth and 1st heavens pass away, everyone has tasted the 1st death (biological death), then is judged (White throne Judgement), at the Judgement of the Dead when the books are opened.
Those raised will be ushered into a 1000 year reign with Christ in the new earth and the new heaven (singular) and the rest are not raised and are annihilated in the Lake of Fire, which is the second death. Satan, biological and spiritual death and Hell cannot continue past this point as the last enemy death is permanently destroyed.
Jesus now becomes the subject of the Father, meaning he has defeated death and brought all who were written in the book of life to the Father's house. This implies that the Cross has run its course and made all the subjects that were to be written in the book of life and thereby Christ being made subject to the Father, means that he has fulfilled his role as the saviour, now God is all in all and what continues from this moment onward is eternity within the nexus of God of many rooms/dimensions.
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No. The 1000 years are the binding of Satan. When loosed, the kingdom remains for Satan to attack.
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You need to make obscure Revelation conform to clear NT passages. Not the other way around as you do. Charles Manson thought he saw the Beatles among other things in Revelation.
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