Why Do Evolutionists Always Battle the Theist and Not the Discussion?

[Shemjaza]

When you got no real science to defend your stance, attacking the poster is the only option you have left.

When every common ancestor on every single tree is missing, you avoid discussing that and attack the poster.

When every single fossil remains the same from the oldest to the youngest found for that type, you avoid discussing that and attack the poster.

When Asian mates with Asian and produces Asian, and only when they mate with another such as African do new variations appear, you avoid discussing that and attack the poster.

It’s the only recourse they have when no evidence supports their belief.

You don't understand genetics.

You suggestion is laughable as always. All the different physical traits that define the ethnic groups of humanity exist in the same locations in our genetic chain, not in all different parts of non coding DNA.

Your idea of initial super humans, super wolves and every other example are impossible and demonstrably wrong.

 

[Justatruthseeker]

You don't understand genetics.

You suggestion is laughable as always. All the different physical traits that define the ethnic groups of humanity exist in the same locations in our genetic chain, not in all different parts of non coding DNA.

Your idea of initial super humans, super wolves and every other example are impossible and demonstrably wrong.

Case in point. Attack the poster instead of the subject of the post. You just supported everything I said.....

I appreciate your confirming your lack of actual evidence!

 

[AV1611VET]

What would you have done in this situations, if you were the boss?

It doesn't matter what I would have done.

If Bug said [whatever] didn't happen, he would be wrong.

 

[HitchSlap]

It doesn't matter what I would have done.

If Bug said [whatever] didn't happen, he would be wrong.

The fact is, hospitals and clinics have massive amounts of biological waste. I'm asking what your solution would have been? And it does matter, because you troll us with this stupid article with regularity.

 

[Chinchilla]

did they suffer like the 11 million children under 5 who die every year to diarrhoea, malaria, neonatal infection, pneumonia, preterm delivery, or lack of oxygen at birth that your God (and not science) saw fit to include in our existence? What about the 275,000 women who die every year as a result of pregnancy and childbirth complications?

Of the industrialised nations though (i.e. those who actively engage in scientific research & evidence based medicine and therapy), we only suffer 7 lives lost for every 1000 children under 5 - far outstripping asia and subsaharan africa at 97 and 174 per 1000 respectively. UNICEF - Goal: Reduce child mortality - it's almost as if science is doing a better job of saving our under 5's than your God is capable of... I can't say I've seen your God saving any children - but if he exists and the bible is his infallible word, then we do know of him killing them and expecting us to kill them in his name too...

I also couldn't help but notice that of the first world industrial nations, the US, close to the most religious, or the most fundamentally religious outright (depending on how you count the industrialised nations) - has the highest maternal mortality rate at 26.4 deaths per 100,000 - nearly triple Germany, the next closest country on 9 deaths per 100,000. It's almost as if there's a statistically substantial reason, or something. Maternal death - Wikipedia

So your argument is " Bad things happen therefore God does not exist "

What would you say about something smaller scale like plane .
Plane crash , 300 people die , would your argument still be " Bad things happen therefore plane does not exist " ?

Probably not , you would assume something went wrong with the plane or the pilot made mistake , but when people invoke God you assume nothing could go wrong and nobody could make mistake.

If we live according to that view then we should next time we see plane crash on tv , it did not really exist no need to douse the fire .

 

[AV1611VET]

The fact is, hospitals and clinics have massive amounts of biological waste. I'm asking what your solution would have been? And it does matter, because you troll us with this stupid article with regularity.

Bug is wrong.

 

[HitchSlap]

Bug is wrong.

Afraid of the question?

 

[HitchSlap]

So your argument is " Bad things happen therefore God does not exist "

What would you say about something smaller scale like plane .
Plane crash , 300 people die , would your argument still be " Bad things happen therefore plane does not exist " ?

Probably not , you would assume something went wrong with the plane or the pilot made mistake , but when people invoke God you assume nothing could go wrong and nobody could make mistake.

If we live according to that view then we should next time we see plane crash on tv , it did not really exist no need to douse the fire .

Well, either your god is not all loving, or he's not all powerful. We already know he's not all knowing.

 

[Chinchilla]

Well, either your god is not all loving, or he's not all powerful. We already know he's not all knowing.

How can there be love without free will ? If he smite every evildoer there would be nobody left

If he is the one who he claims to be then he said he will rise up everybody anyways from the dead . From our perspective death is the worst thing from his it's nothing .

 

[Shemjaza]

Case in point. Attack the poster instead of the subject of the post. You just supported everything I said.....

I appreciate your confirming your lack of actual evidence!

No I pointed out what was wrong with your idea.

That the evidence is directly against it and that your ideas do not work in the realty of biology.

You are wrong because your idea is wrong. You don't understand genetics because your ideas don't work with the practical science of genetics.

 

[Steve Petersen]

How can there be love without free will ? If he smite every evildoer there would be nobody left.

Why does he have to smite anyone at all? Wouldn't that be like you smiting an ant?

 

[Chinchilla]

Why does he have to smite anyone at all? Wouldn't that be like you smiting an ant?

Yes it would , he said multiple times that he is too holy to have any sin tolerated by him . If he claims to be perfect in everything he is perfect judge aswell , if bribed judge let guilty person free he is partaker in crime isnt he ?

 

[Steve Petersen]

Yes it would , he said multiple times that he is too holy to have any sin tolerated by him . If he claims to be perfect in everything he is perfect judge aswell , if bribed judge let guilty person free he is partaker in crime isnt he ?

He is immortal and incorruptible. Why didn't he make us incorruptible too?

 

[Chinchilla]

He is immortal and incorruptible. Why didn't he make us incorruptible too?

Free will

You could say the same of angels but they won't be forgiven because there is no sacrifice for them according to Bible.

 

[Steve Petersen]

Free will

You could say the same of angels but they won't be forgiven because there is no sacrifice for them according to Bible.

God has free will AND is incorruptible. Why didn't he make us the same way?

 

[Chinchilla]

God has free will AND is incorruptible. Why didn't he make us the same way?

Because God can't make another God because God is eternal and can't be made .
Anything less than God could fall short of being God and thus sin given free will .

 

[Ophiolite]

Case in point. Attack the poster instead of the subject of the post. You just supported everything I said.....

I appreciate your confirming your lack of actual evidence!

The absence of evidence for your assertions, blithely ignored by you, renders your approach and, by extension, you the only aspect of your posts that can be meaningfully addressed.

When there is a century and a half of evidence for evolution and evolutionary theory, assembled, dissected, critiqued, analysed, challenged, tested and validated, yet you deny there is such evidence, then the debate naturally devolves upon the integrity of your statements and the credentials you have for making then. Both give the appearance of being lacking.

Post something of substance, based in science and with appropriate citations and I shall be happy to discuss that. Continue with your current questionable tactics and I shall certainly question them. If it's too hot for you, you may leave.

 

[HitchSlap]

How can there be love without free will ? If he smite every evildoer there would be nobody left

If he is the one who he claims to be then he said he will rise up everybody anyways from the dead . From our perspective death is the worst thing from his it's nothing .

Letting your child walk off the end of a tall pier into shark infested waters is not love. Don't blame reprehensible behavior as "free will."

 

[Chinchilla]

Letting your child walk off the end of a tall pier into shark infested waters is not love. Don't blame reprehensible behavior as "free will."

What is love ?
and when did God feed humans to sharks ?

 

[HitchSlap]

What is love ?
and when did God feed humans to sharks ?

Preventing my child from walking off a pier into shark infested waters, is what love is.

Having the ability to prevent pain and suffering, but watching idly, that's hate.