Why Do Evolutionists Always Battle the Theist and Not the Discussion?

[HitchSlap]

Only because you have an academic view of what "moral" means.

Well, I guess academics have higher morals than you, too.

No, you wouldn't.

Sure I would. Remember, it doesn't cost me a thing.

You might at first, but you wouldn't be able to keep it up.

Unless I had the power to delete cancer from our genome. Doesn't seem to hard for a character that can supposedly create universes from nothing.

Especially if some of them that you cured beat, tortured, then hanged your son on a tree.

Does my son get to rise from the dead in two/three days too? You know, after the little fracas dies down.

 

[AV1611VET]

Does my son get to rise from the dead in two/three days too? You know, after the little fracas dies down.

That would make a difference to you?

How about your friends they ...

Hebrews 11:37 They were stoned, they were sawn asunder, were tempted, were slain with the sword: they wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins; being destitute, afflicted, tormented;

Remember this?

Mark 12:1 And he began to speak unto them by parables. A certain man planted a vineyard, and set an hedge about it, and digged a place for the winefat, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country.
2 And at the season he sent to the husbandmen a servant, that he might receive from the husbandmen of the fruit of the vineyard.
3 And they caught him, and beat him, and sent him away empty.
4 And again he sent unto them another servant; and at him they cast stones, and wounded him in the head, and sent him away shamefully handled.
5 And again he sent another; and him they killed, and many others; beating some, and killing some.
6 Having yet therefore one son, his wellbeloved, he sent him also last unto them, saying, They will reverence my son.
7 But those husbandmen said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and the inheritance shall be ours.
8 And they took him, and killed him, and cast him out of the vineyard.
9a What shall therefore the lord of the vineyard do?

What would you do?

 

[HitchSlap]

That would make a difference to you?

It wouldn't to you? Never mind, don't answer that.

What would you do?

The saying, 'fool me once, shame on me,' comes to mind.

 

[AV1611VET]

The saying, 'fool me once, shame on me,' comes to mind.

Well, your deliver-us-from-cancer program might work at first, but after awhile, I believe you'd get tired of it.

 

[tas8831]

Every time I've ever seen a debate going on about creation versus evolution. The evolutionists always battle the creationist directly rather than the concepts at hand.

Here is a great example why:

Coccyx - tale of a creationist disinformation post

 

[HitchSlap]

Well, your deliver-us-from-cancer program might work at first, but after awhile, I believe you'd get tired of it.

Lol...

 

[Non sequitur]

I said physical evidence, as in show me evidence that an ape became a man. You can't.... you can theorize til the cows come home but it doesn't make it so.

I don't think anyone has suggested an ape became a man.

Do you mean man descended from apes? Common ancestor?

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

I don't think anyone has suggested an ape became a man.

Do you mean man descended from apes? Common ancestor?

Show me the steps that it happened...

 

[Steve Petersen]

 

[Non sequitur]

Show me the steps that it happened...

Steps of what?

I asked you to clarify what you said people were claiming and what you meant. Let's start there, first.

 

[AV1611VET]

Lol...

Also, you'd make more enemies than a Bible in a college bookstore.

Think what would happen when you delivered little Addie from cancer, only to have little Addie grow up to be Adolf Hitler.

 

[HitchSlap]

Also, you'd make more enemies than a Bible in a college bookstore.

Your paranoia is showing again.

(you may wanna' tuck that back in )

Think what would happen when you delivered little Addie from cancer, only to have little Addie grow up to be Adolf Hitler.

You're ridiculous.

 

[AV1611VET]

You're ridiculous.

So post 288 is just rhetorical?

 

[tas8831]

God not only has power to stop it but he actually called this thing you call cancer to happen to humanity it's called curse .

So you totally just claimed that God caused cancer. Awesome.

It's failure of replicating of DNA

False.

caused by that curse ,

Evidence please.

Viruses try to break your DNA even more .

No they do not.

Seeing as how what you apparently think are great points are actually a pitiful grasp of basic biology, I see little reason to entertain your 'arguments' further.

 

[HitchSlap]

So post 288 is just rhetorical?

Not in the least. Would still flip that switch. But then again, in my omnipotence, Adolf would have been non-issue.

 

[tyke]

God not only has power to stop it but he actually called this thing you call cancer to happen to humanity it's called curse . It's failure of replicating of DNA caused by that curse , Viruses try to break your DNA even more . That's to season your argument with some spices

According to Bible wage of sin is death , it's wage not punishment . You reap what you sow .

Then you should say okay they sinned they are punished , but why small children die they did not do anything wrong yet didn't they ?

God can punish thier parents with death of thier children , there is something called age of accountability and children go to heaven. Parents feel grief because they love thier children , just like God felt grief when they sinned against him because he loved them .

This right here is one of the most callous, unfeeling and asinine ideas I have read in a long time.

To justify cancer in children by arguing that your so called loving and benevolent god not only invented this heinous disease but also inflicts young people with it to punish their parents is an idea I find reprehensible. And then add that it's all ok because they get to go to heaven!!!!! - I am so glad that I am not constricted by these "mind forged manacles" as Hitchens called religious belief.

Rant over.

 

[AV1611VET]

This right here is one of the most callous, unfeeling and asinine ideas I have read in a long time.

To justify cancer in children by arguing that your so called loving and benevolent god not only invented this heinous disease but also inflicts young people with it to punish their parents is an idea I find reprehensible. And then add that it's all ok because they get to go to heaven!!!!! - I am so glad that I am not constricted by these "mind forged manacles" as Hitchens called religious belief.

Rant over.

What's nature's solution?

Live with it all your life -- then die?

Maybe hope survival of the fittest doesn't take you early?

 

[Kylie]

Because we were created DIFFERENT from all other animals.... something only a Creator could do and not random chance.

In what way are we different?

 

[DogmaHunter]

It hasn't changed in it's purpose or ideology one iota...

That is demonstrably false.
What christians actually believe today, is not what christians believed 500 years ago.

man's relationship to it may change but the Word of God is unchanging... warts and all.

Which can be said about every religion with ancient scripture.

 

[DogmaHunter]

when have you heard me disparage physics, mathematics, etc?

I'll be able to answer that, when I know how you answer these simple questions:

How old do you believe the earth to be?
How old do you believe the species Homo Sapiens to be?
Do you believe in a literal global flood story?

Exactly, one is real and the other is conjecture....

Science is the real one, right?