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Knowing the "heart" (and mind maybe) of God...?
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Your point please...?
And how did that make God (Christ/God the Son/YHWH) feel in the OT...?
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You are still avoiding answering the questions.
i don’t understand the question, you had asked me to prove that the OT prophets were rejected in the days that they lived, but were later accepted as the norm. I used Jesus’ summery of such as an example. Judaism STILL rejects Jesus and they use their scripture to do it.
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What questions...? Ones like "can God make a square circle"...? Sorry, I find answering questions like that pretty pointless... Or that God can't make good come from evil, and I answered you that God the Father does, can, and will in the end...? So, what questions are you wanting me to answer again...?
Of course you don't, I guess I should expect as much...
In the OT there were many, many times when the prophets were rejected by Israel when they had become exceedingly sinful and corrupt, and accepted in the times that they were not...
So, I don't understand the point you are even trying to make by quoting that scripture or how that even answers or proves or shows anything (I guess that you are saying or I don't even comprehend the point you are trying to make by that)...?
Jesus said that, as both how he felt, and also how he used to feel, as God in the OT... And then I asked you if you knew how that made him (God in the OT/YHWH, who was Jesus) how that made him feel and how it might have made him act and be toward Israel in the OT times and days...?
How when they had become sinful, and rejected the prophets, and even stoned and killed some of them when they had become sinful, how God maybe felt toward Israel about that... And maybe how it caused him to act toward them for doing that...
I'm sorry, I can't be any clearer than that...
You try to use that scripture to...? What...? Back up some kind of claim the the OT is a "lie", or were just the words of false prophets, or misguided or lying men, or "what"...?
Cause I just don't get it, sorry...?
God Bless!
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Yes, I agree...
But I wonder if you know what that "means", or are comprehending, or understanding it correctly...? Cause while I do agree, I don't think you and I are on the "same page" about it though...?
God Bless!
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I have faith (and I think Jesus did as well) that God the Father will make ultimate, or "the ultimate good", come out of "all this evil", that "we have all done", in the end...
Just try to remember that "no evil can be charged against anyone where this no law", or where, or when, there is no knowledge of sin or evil...
Oh, and "forgive them Father, for they know not what they do", yet I would add "Father forgive us "all" for we "all" do not know what we do, or are doing" (to ourselves, or to you, oh Father, or to anyone)...
Or do we...?
God Bless!
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Yes if He made us unpredictable in certain ways, then by His design we'd be unpredictable even to Him (if He designed us so) (an idea I think is likely but realize we can't be entirely certain about; we don't know even in physics an exhaustive understanding of all of nature, and thus don't know all things that can be predicted vs what could never be). Of course, if He did make us unpredictable in some ways, that would not prevent Him from knowing what your or my current path leads to if we don't turn in a new direction (at some possibly unpredictable moment). And that's only a hint of what might be possible to predict even if we are unpredictable by His design. And of course, He would still be able to accomplish His goals regardless of any unpredictable actions we take.
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are we now talking about Romans 8:28? Cause I have a pretty awesome story that illustrates God's power to bring good out of something that is bad.
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Yes, that is "part of it" at least... (though there is a bit more to it than that)...
If you feel like sharing, I'm sure I, and others, would like to hear it, if you want to...?
Or maybe make a thread out of it maybe...?
God Bless!
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I'm just trying to keep up with the thread and it seems like some of the lines of discussion are shifting which can be hard to keep track of.
I am always happy to share what God does but if it isn't what we are talking about it is best left for a different time and place. Needless to say, God does make good come of evil/bad but there are conditions we should not forget.
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Why do you want to know? That is a scary thing to ask for.
God is a God.
If God was here on earth where all people could see him and approach him every one would approach him in fear knowing he is our Judge and he could judge us at any time.
Yes, I love our father in heaven ,with all my heart, But I fear his judgments.
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Yes, I do... In fact I use to live that way a lot sometimes, and really not all that long ago now... And every once in a while still do sometimes, but, I'm trying to shed some of that now...
I have to rely on what I know to be God's true character to do that though...
God Bless!
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According in Psalms 34 the fear of the Lord is that which drives us to righteousness which is a pleasing aroma to God and what allows us to fellowship with Him. Proverbs 9:10 tells us that fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom...what would either of those things drive me to want to be in any other presence?
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