flat earth debate

[Aldebaran]

I never said that he was a FE believer... He just gives some very odd statements of his observations of Antarctica... I do believe he was a hollow earth believer and said that there were craft that could fly from pole to pole at high speed.

He is a very interesting guy and his work lead to some very secretive operations.

It seems like all you need to lift up someone as an example of why you believe in the flat earth is someone saying something interesting or giving "some very odd statements of his observations" that seem to support what you already believe. But if someone provides you with actual science that conflicts what you believe, you call them a liar, or accuse them of being in on a grand conspiracy.

 

[Radagast]

Funny you can't use the quote feature so the intended post never notifies your recipient. No, you cannot "fly over Antarctica and go sightseeing" that's preposterous. Book a tour and I'll go with.

I included a clickable link. Book your own tour. You might learn something.

In fact, I suggest you fly like this:

1. USA to South Africa
2. South Africa to Australia (on the flight that supposedly doesn't exist)
3. Australia to Antarctica sightseeing
4. Australia to South America, possibly via beautiful NZ (on the flights that supposedly don't exist)
5. South America to USA

 

[patrick jane]

I included a clickable link. Book your own tour. You might learn something.

In fact, I suggest you fly like this:

1. USA to South Africa
2. South Africa to Australia (on the flight that supposedly doesn't exist)
3. Australia to Antarctica sightseeing
4. Australia to South America, possibly via beautiful NZ (on the flights that supposedly don't exist)
5. South America to USA

That still doesn't prove a globe, friend. Maybe one day you'll learn something too.

 

[Aldebaran]

That still doesn't prove a globe, friend. Maybe one day you'll learn something too.

How about the fact that stars he can see in Australia are not the same as the ones in America? Different stars, constellations, celestial objects, etc. and not a reflection from a mirror ball of the stars in the north.

 

[patrick jane]

How about the fact that stars he can see in Australia are not the same as the ones in America? Different stars, constellations, celestial objects, etc. and not a reflection from a mirror ball of the stars in the north.

Easily explained in the flat enclosed earth and cosmos (like the Bible says) - You will only find the answers to your rather simple questions and assertions by doing the following : Whatever question you have and when you want the flat earth answer, you should type in the question or issue followed by the words "flat earth" for text answers (likelier text) OR the words : "flat earth youtube" for visual, written AND oral narration. Since I pretty much got this subject started again on this forum, it's up to others to prove their arguments by comparing their "globe" data against the flat earth proofs.

 

[Trogdor the Burninator]

Funny you can't use the quote feature so the intended post never notifies your recipient. No, you cannot "fly over Antarctica and go sightseeing" that's preposterous. Book a tour and I'll go with.

Antarctica Tours

10-Day Antarctica Package - Cruise on the Ocean Nova + Flight from Punta Arenas, Chile

Sightseeing Flights Over Antarctica

There you go - feel free to pick one. Be sure to post us your holiday snaps

 

[Aldebaran]

Easily explained in the flat enclosed earth and cosmos (like the Bible says) - You will only find the answers to your rather simple questions and assertions by doing the following : Whatever question you have and when you want the flat earth answer, you should type in the question or issue followed by the words "flat earth" for text answers (likelier text) OR the words : "flat earth youtube" for visual, written AND oral narration. Since I pretty much got this subject started again on this forum, it's up to others to prove their arguments by comparing their "globe" data against the flat earth proofs.

Ah, yes! I guess that's one way to make sure we only see the FE version of the answer. If that's all you ever look up, it's the only viewpoint you're going to get. Well, I did find a link by using your method that shows why the FE model doesn't work while using your search parameters. Care to look at it for yourself? https://www.quora.com/How-do-Flat-E...but-anti-clockwise-in-the-Northern-Hemisphere

 

[MoneyGuy]

Funny you can't use the quote feature so the intended post never notifies your recipient. No, you cannot "fly over Antarctica and go sightseeing" that's preposterous. Book a tour and I'll go with.

LOL, yes you can. More FE nonsense.

 

[patrick jane]

LOL, yes you can. More FE nonsense.

Tell me precisely how that proves a globe. I'll wait.

 

[xXDankLutheranXx]

Man, look at all these flat Earthers flat Earthing all over the Earth.

 

[MoneyGuy]

Man, look at all these flat Earthers flat Earthing all over the Earth.

They go 'round and 'round and 'round, just like the Earth.

 

[patrick jane]

Ah, yes! I guess that's one way to make sure we only see the FE version of the answer. If that's all you ever look up, it's the only viewpoint you're going to get. Well, I did find a link by using your method that shows why the FE model doesn't work while using your search parameters. Care to look at it for yourself? https://www.quora.com/How-do-Flat-E...but-anti-clockwise-in-the-Northern-Hemisphere

Nonsense, I'm trying to MAKE SURE you see ONLY the flat earth perspective??? Where have I lived for 50 years? On a globe I thought for sure. It took me a month of sporadic part time study of the flat earth answers and it's only been a month since I thought maybe it's not a globe.

NOBODY on flat earth can ONLY see the "flat earth version" if they ever went to school and actually lived here all their lives. Do you see? You all can talk amongst yourselves as i think JackBratt is the only one supporting the POSSIBILITY of flat earth in this thread. Debate me in my thread if you want a serious debate on this.

 

[patrick jane]

Antarctica Tours

10-Day Antarctica Package - Cruise on the Ocean Nova + Flight from Punta Arenas, Chile

Sightseeing Flights Over Antarctica

There you go - feel free to pick one. Be sure to post us your holiday snaps

How far do the go? They only see .001 % of the ice wall, so what? Tell me how a short flight for a short distance over a minuscule chunk of the ice wall proves a globe. Tell me exactly. I'll wait.

 

[patrick jane]

I won't be gracing this thread with my brilliance anymore. None of you posting in it started this thread anyway. If anybody wants my input they can teach me all about the globe on my flat earth thread in the Conspiracy forum. I think most folks have heard all you have to offer here. You guys know I'm kidding right?

 

[xXDankLutheranXx]

You guys know I'm kidding right?

Of course.

 

[MoneyGuy]

You guys know I'm kidding right?

That's one possibility.

 

[JacksBratt]

And your evidence for people being prevented from going to the South Pole is what, exactly.

Are you aware there has been a permanent outpost at the South Pole since the 1950s and multiple people have famously trekked to the South Pole and back?

Are all those disparate people liars?

I am not saying that they are not going. I'm saying that there is a treaty that protects this area, that was drafted in 1959 and it restricts people from going there like they would be able to do, say, in Alaska or Australia....

I am also saying that if you get on a plane and go to Antarctica...there is no way of proving that you didn't just go to some barren cold place... how would you know?

I am also saying that if you went there... how far would you travel? 20 miles? Your certainly not going as far a Byrd did and your not going to see the dome if it is there.

I'm saying that it would be pretty easy to set you up on a farce.... You would be none the wiser. And, I'm saying that if you try to go there without proper paperwork, and just tour around on your own... you will be arrested.

I'm not saying they are liars, I'm saying it's controlled and restricted and easy to hide stuff.

 

[JacksBratt]

Yes, he's calling them liars.

Like yourself, people who say stuff that they believe to be true, when it is not, are not lying.. they are just ignorant of the truth.

 

[JacksBratt]

Height of spherical "bulge" = r(1 - cos(d / 2r))

d = distance between points

r = radius of Earth

Very good.

Now, a good teacher would also give an example by plugging in some real numbers.

Let's say with d equal to 60 miles.

Then, another with d equal to 100 miles.

Question... is ( 2r ) not just the same as the diameter?

What is the unit of the height of the bulge? Is it feet, inches, miles?

 

[JacksBratt]

Who is "they," exactly? And why didn't they stop the 1955–58 Commonwealth Trans-Antarctic Expedition?

"They" would, collectively, be the powers that have perpetrated this hoax, if it is one.

Why would they stop this Trans Antarctic Expedition? They could even fund it and control it. They could edit what was presented as the results and findings of it.