flat earth debate

[JacksBratt]

You are not really arguing about a flat earth in the year 2018, right? Please tell me this is a joke. It is absolutly impossible under the well-known psychical circumstances. Stop watching crap on Youtube. Did anyone ever make soap bubbles? How many of them are flat? Well this is pretty much the same thing. The most stabel form is a globe bacause it has the smallest surface in ralation to the volume.

Please do catch up.

 

[JacksBratt]

So you are retracting your assertion that embarrassment is driving this conspiracy?

Good to know.

What is your next most compelling reason for the conspiracy of a round Earth?

Again, grab the one least important and least expanded on reason and attack it... you get a gold star.

 

[JacksBratt]

So all the bad things from the 20 century to now are because some people want to keep the flat Earth a secret?

Seems like a whole lot of effort. With all the resources at the finger tips of the ‘people in control’ what motivates them to keep people believing in a round Earth?

No.. no...no...

Please pay attention...

All these things are connected for one common end.

Here's a riddle... find out what kind of car and trucks the Nazi's were driving when we landed on Normandy.....

 

[JacksBratt]

Well obviously a 60 year old water tight conspiracy that is ineffably ‘proven wrong’ on this very site almost weekly (and yet none of you guys has been killed into silence) is perfectly acceptable.

Yes.... I am really scared....

Please think.... I am no threat because nobody takes me seriously...

Those that can and should know.... and you would know that they know... would be dead. And, many are for that exact reason.

 

[Trimeresurus]

Oh thank goodness you came just in time to save us all.
We can close the forum now.

Glad I could help. Now stop watching Youtube and read a book.

 

[Aldebaran]

No they wouldn't.

Then you're suggesting that it's profitable to rebel against God. But I agree with a higher authority than you that it's not much of a profit even if I gained the whole world if I were to forfeit my soul by rebelling against God.

 

[Aldebaran]

If the FE was ever to be proven.. totally exposed... then... God is the only explanation for why we are here. Not only that but they could never have their alien invasion from other planets.. they would be seen for what they are..... demonic beings... You know "thy seed and it's seed"

The idea of aliens who can travel interdimensionally is all it would take to explain the idea of demonic beings being aliens from another world.

 

[Larniavc]

Again, grab the one least important and least expanded on reason and attack it... you get a gold star.

What is your next most compelling reason for the conspiracy of a round Earth?

 

[JacksBratt]

Then you're suggesting that it's profitable to rebel against God. But I agree with a higher authority than you that it's not much of a profit even if I gained the whole world if I were to forfeit my soul by rebelling against God.

I agree 100%.. but if you don't believe in God and you think that this life is all we have .. then it's pretty easy to grab all the cash and, more importantly, power, when you can...

 

[Aldebaran]

I agree 100%.. but if you don't believe in God and you think that this life is all we have .. then it's pretty easy to grab all the cash and, more importantly, power, when you can...

Well, I believe in God and that He is omnipotent and could create the universe as we are able to see it with the instruments we have--and probably even more. Believing the universe is as we see it hasn't earned me a single dollar or any amount of power. Rather, it gives me an even bigger reverence for who God is and what He can do.

 

[JacksBratt]

The idea of aliens who can travel interdimensionally is all it would take to explain the idea of demonic beings being aliens from another world.

I agree, again.. but it doesn't accomplish the result that they are looking for.

If aliens are from another planet... then the world will have to join forces against them. This makes the One World Government very attractive... one species united against another.

If the aliens are from another planet... they could be used to explain evolution as a seeded life on this planet... again... unbiblical and God is not necessary.

If they say aliens are multidimensional... then there must be another dimension... may then be a God after all.. so that's out.

In the event of a rapture.. the atheists can explain it away as a mass abduction which removes those who are on the wrong track... to either educate them and return them or just remove them.

Without a globular, heliocentric model... planets cannot exist, the solar system does not fit the presented model, evolution is done and dead.... there must be a creator and a designer.

All of these things are connected as part of a master plan by the great deceiver.

The wealthy and powerful are totally oblivious or they know and are serving Satan.. however, we know who gets the last laugh eh?

 

[JacksBratt]

What is your next most compelling reason for the conspiracy of a round Earth?

I already explained it.. It's Satan's master plan.... make God unnecessary.
Create his kingdom on earth, form a one world government. Two societies.. slaves and the very few who have everything. The mark of the beast... humans worshiping him.

Knowledge of a FE destroys all of the foundational work in getting to the end game.

Like I said before.. Although I am not a FE believer... one thing I will full well admit to is that the FE model demands a designer and a creator.. God and His word fit much better in a geocentric enclosed snow globe.

 

[JacksBratt]

Well, I believe in God and that He is omnipotent and could create the universe as we are able to see it with the instruments we have--and probably even more. Believing the universe is as we see it hasn't earned me a single dollar or any amount of power. Rather, it gives me an even bigger reverence for who God is and what He can do.

Hey, we all do, or for some, did... God is all powerful and it was no problem, for me to believe the globe model. God just did it.. and it made sense.

I am surely not going to make any money from clinging to that model or accepting any other model... not a dime.

The vastness of the globe model is massive and easily parallels Gods awesom power and magnitude.

However, the FE model demands a different outlook. It is still all possible under God.. but it does not allow for the big bang and expanding naturally occurring and spontaneous universe and life..

No the snow globe sitting as God's footstool is a monkey wrench in the whole atheistic view. The FE demands a Designer and a creator.. and... if taken further.. there is no way a solid stationary FE with a dome happened on it's own.... It makes God necessary.

Like I have said before.. non believers who laughed at the FE then studied and researched and became FE believers..... became God believing Christ accepting Christians.

 

[JacksBratt]

Glad I could help. Now stop watching Youtube and read a book.

Yes... you should start with these:

Archon Invasion: The Rise, Fall and Return of the Nephilim

by Rob Skiba

OR


Alien Encounters

by Mark Eastman and Chuck Missler

 

[Aldebaran]

Hey, we all do, or for some, did... God is all powerful and it was no problem, for me to believe the globe model. God just did it.. and it made sense.

I am surely not going to make any money from clinging to that model or accepting any other model... not a dime.

The vastness of the globe model is massive and easily parallels Gods awesom power and magnitude.

However, the FE model demands a different outlook. It is still all possible under God.. but it does not allow for the big bang and expanding naturally occurring and spontaneous universe and life..

No the snow globe sitting as God's footstool is a monkey wrench in the whole atheistic view. The FE demands a Designer and a creator.. and... if taken further.. there is no way a solid stationary FE with a dome happened on it's own.... It makes God necessary.

Like I have said before.. non believers who laughed at the FE then studied and researched and became FE believers..... became God believing Christ accepting Christians.

You say all this as a support for the FE model, but in your previous post, you said:

Like I said before.. Although I am not a FE believer... one thing I will full well admit to is that the FE model demands a designer and a creator.. God and His word fit much better in a geocentric enclosed snow globe.

Do you actually believe in the FE model or not?
Have you ever gone out in your backyard with a telescope and looked up at the night sky and seen for yourself?

 

[Trimeresurus]

Yes... you should start with these:

Archon Invasion: The Rise, Fall and Return of the Nephilim

by Rob Skiba

OR


Alien Encounters

by Mark Eastman and Chuck Missler

Sure. I like fantasy storys.
May the force be with you.

 

[Trogdor the Burninator]

OK, so.... even being someone who is not totally convinced that the earth is Flat, or a ball.... it really really gets annoying to keep hearing arguments that would be tantamount to kindergarten questions in a university setting.

Well, there certainly are some kindergarten arguments in here, but not perhaps where you think they are

So, please understand that it is really ignorant to argue about something that you have not investigated.

Oh I have - I'm just yet to find anything remotely like evidence to support the theory being postulated.

The edge cannot be walked to. Antarctica is supposedly a rim around a flat plate. There is an ice wall that holds in the oceans. Climb the ice wall and there are 100's of miles (who knows how far) of sheer ice and dangerous landscape.

So fly there. Send a drone. Launch a balloon. You see - it's really hard to take the FE side seriously when they make all sorts of claims about photos showing the globe being a fake when they don't have a single picture to support their side. In a world flooded with billions of cameras.

Also, there is a treaty that has held since 1959 that protects this area from any person just packing up and going. There are miles of paper and red tape as this is protected.

So protected that Qantas runs joyflights over this amazingly protected area. And if people can smuggle footage out of North Korea and post it on youtube, I'm sure a few dedicated flat earthers could sneak onto the ice and send a drone.

Thirdly... When Admiral Byrd went there in Operation High Jump, planes were crashing into some unseen obstacle. This lead them to believe that the Nazis that fled there, had developed a force field.

You talk about research, then post something that is completely made up. One plane (not "planes" crashed during a blizzard, and 6 of the crew were rescued. Unlike the flat earth, there's even a photo.

Please research a bit more before asking questions that are so basic.

Please investigate why questions that are so basic - like those asked in this thread - are incapable of being answered.

 

[Larniavc]

I already explained it.. It's Satan's master plan.... make God unnecessary.
Create his kingdom on earth, form a one world government. Two societies.. slaves and the very few who have everything. The mark of the beast... humans worshiping him.

Knowledge of a FE destroys all of the foundational work in getting to the end game.

Like I said before.. Although I am not a FE believer... one thing I will full well admit to is that the FE model demands a designer and a creator.. God and His word fit much better in a geocentric enclosed snow globe.

Is see. So it boils down to ‘because Jesus’.

 

[Radagast]

I already explained it.. It's Satan's master plan.... make God unnecessary

Or perhaps Satan's master plan is to damage the Church by making Christians look stupid. That's at least equally plausible.

 

[Radagast]

Half of Antarctica belongs to Australia, but many countries have bases there. The New Zealanders have webcams, as do most other nations. Flickr is full of photographs taken there. And apart from joining a government base, several private sightseeing options exist.