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You keep talking about NASA. The original TV footage of the moon landing came from Australia. Other nations have taken photographs of the landing sites. And many, many people have verified the existence of the retroreflectors that the astronauts left behind.
You do realize that scientists were bouncing lasers off of the moon and back to earth long before NASA claimed to have been there.... right?
 
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The boys from CSIRO pointed their dish at the moon. That's where the signal came from. Australian TV got it from CSIRO.

NASA also got it from CSIRO. The US broadcasters got it from NASA.
Sometimes my satellite dish points at the moon but I still get TSN...

The signal was not coming from the moon...a satellite, maybe...
 
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Your calculations are wrong. You need to draw some diagrams.

Can you show your calculations... The one that I give is all over the internet. Both globe and FE'rs use it as a gold standard.
 
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There are lots of examples out there...just look.... flight paths that make absolutely no logical sense on a globe.

Then please explain to me how you can fly from Santiago Chile to New Zealand quicker than you can fly there from Los Angeles. This is impossible on a flat earth but works perfectly with a sphere.

The distance from Santiago Chile even in a straight line, is almost twice the distance than from Los Angeles to Auckland NZ on the Flat Earth map yet inexplicably the flight time is shorter.
 
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I didn't realize that there are so many flat earthers on this site. In my opinion there are only 2 types of people that believe the earth is flat: stupid people and trolls. I really hope the majority are just trolling.
I've been thinking exactly that but didn't know we could say it without having posts reported. Anyone who thinks the Earth is flat is absolutely ignoring the evidence. It's right there, people.

It's like, "the sky is blue."
"No it's not."
"Yeah it is, look up."
 
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Sometimes my satellite dish points at the moon but I still get TSN...

The signal was not coming from the moon...a satellite, maybe...

You do realize the astronauts have already returned, right? That would explain why you're not getting their signal from the moon. Not to mention you'd have to be tuned to the right frequency.
 
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Sometimes my satellite dish points at the moon but I still get TSN...

The signal was not coming from the moon...a satellite, maybe...

Welcome - you are officially part of the giant conspiracy now. A true flat earther would know that satellites are fake

 
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Welcome - you are officially part of the giant conspiracy now. A true flat earther would know that satellites are fake


On top of that, the FE crowd says the dome over the flat earth is no more than 3,000 miles high. Even the width of the United States alone is wider than that! To have such a shallow dome over the earth would mean it would have to be quite shallow closer to the edges. I wonder what it would be like to be right next to the sun as it sets on the ice wall at the edge of the earth! The ice wall would melt from the sun setting on it.
 
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Funny thing is, if you sent a FE up into orbit, and they took photos, they would then by default become part of the conspiracy :D

Exactly. I mean, if any one of the flat earth believers on this thread were to be invited by NASA to take a ride into orbit and live on the ISS for a week and then come home and report to all his fellow flat earthers what he experienced, his flat earth partners would simply conclude that he was paid off by NASA to say that the earth was round and that people actually live and work on the ISS, and is now part of the conspiracy.
 
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To what end would be the enormous conspiracy movement? What's the payoff? Answer me that, FE'rs.

The main one I've heard is that the purpose is to make us believe the universe is vast and that there are other planets with life on them like we see in science fiction movies. That way, our government can stage an "alien invasion" and cause everyone to not believe in God.

As for me, I think the vast universe with many stars and galaxies as far as our most powerful telescopes can see shows us God's omnipotence far, far better than a flat earth with a 3,000 mile dome over it as being the entire universe.
 
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... I think the vast universe with many stars and galaxies as far as our most powerful telescopes can see shows us God's omnipotence far, far better than a flat earth with a 3,000 mile dome over it as being the entire universe.
Agreed, but that dome would be an engineering marvel.
 
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To what end would be the enormous conspiracy movement? What's the payoff? Answer me that, FE'rs.
To many ends.
Can you not imagine any?
What's at the bottom of wanting to control information?
Use what God gave ya.
 
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There are lots of examples out there...just look.... flight paths that make absolutely no logical sense on a globe.

Such as?

And the FACT that as you gain altitude.... the horizon does not behave like it should if, in fact, you were on a giant ball.

Sure it does. Like I said, that's why lookouts are on towers. And at very high altitude:

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