Aron Ra destroys Hovind

[DogmaHunter]

I guess it depends on the type of metal, he definitely looks like a biker in the pic though.

What does it even matter?

Is the merrit of his arguments determined by how long his hair or goatie is?
By how much leather is on his jacket?
By the ride he uses to get to places?
By the music he listens to?

No? Then maybe deal with the arguments instead of his looks.

 

[Sanoy]

What does it even matter?

Is the merrit of his arguments determined by how long his hair or goatie is?
By how much leather is on his jacket?
By the ride he uses to get to places?
By the music he listens to?

No? Then maybe deal with the arguments instead of his looks.

Whether he is a satanist or not won't matter to you. However it does matter to me. I don't reject his conclusions based on his appearance. I reject having any interest in watching what appears to be a satanist try to make those conclusions.

If bozo the phd clown had a debate in full costume I wouldn't watch it either so it's not just about being a satanist, though that is a sufficient reason for me on its own.

 

[HitchSlap]

Whether he is a satanist or not won't matter to you. However it does matter to me. I don't reject his conclusions based on his appearance. I reject having any interest in watching what appears to be a satanist try to make those conclusions.

If bozo the phd clown had a debate in full costume I wouldn't watch it either.

It doesn’t bother you in the least that Hovind looks like an ex con?

BTW, Aron Ra is a satanist to the same extent that he’s a Christianist.

 

[DogmaHunter]

Whether he is a satanist or not won't matter to you

He's an atheist.
He doesn't believe in demons, devils, ghosts, gods, prophets,...

Give it a rest already.
You're turning this into a gigantic ad hominim.

However it does matter to me. I don't reject his conclusions based on his appearance. I reject having any interest in watching what appears to be a satanist try to make those conclusions.

"appears" being the operative word here. And I'll also add that it just appears like that TO YOU, because you have some (rather silly) "image" in your head of what a satanist looks like.

I'll also note, that even being a "satanist" or a "YEC born again christian", doesn't automatically make your arguments fail.

Arguments fall and stand on their own merrit - no matter who brings them or what they believe.

If bozo the phd clown had a debate in full costume I wouldn't watch it either so it's not just about being a satanist.

Because someone wearing a clown costume can't possibly build a valid argument?
Because what someone looks like has direct impact on the validity of their arguments?

You should look up what an "ad hominim" is.

Would you feel better if he had the iconic messy grey hair, the stereotype hairdue of the "crazy smart professor" a la Einstein?

PS: Hovind is an ex-convict just released from jail. So, what now? Will you give him the same treatment? Or do ad hominims only work on people that disagree with you?

 

[Sanoy]

It doesn’t bother you in the least that Hovind looks like an ex con?

BTW, Aron Ra is a satanist to the same extent that he’s a Christianist.

He is an ex con.

 

[Jjmcubbin]

I just watched the first 10 minutes and he already roasted the creationist guy twice.

 

[HitchSlap]

He is an ex con.

Kent Hovind - Wikipedia

 

[Sanoy]

He's an atheist.
He doesn't believe in demons, devils, ghosts, gods, prophets,...

Give it a rest already.
You're turning this into a gigantic ad hominim.




"appears" being the operative word here. And I'll also add that it just appears like that TO YOU, because you have some (rather silly) "image" in your head of what a satanist looks like.

I'll also note, that even being a "satanist" or a "YEC born again christian", doesn't automatically make your arguments fail.

Arguments fall and stand on their own merrit - no matter who brings them or what they believe.



Because someone wearing a clown costume can't possibly build a valid argument?
Because what someone looks like has direct impact on the validity of their arguments?

You should look up what an "ad hominim" is.

Would you feel better if he had the iconic messy grey hair, the stereotype hairdue of the "crazy smart professor" a la Einstein?

PS: Hovind is an ex-convict just released from jail. So, what now? Will you give him the same treatment? Or do ad hominims only work on people that disagree with you?

Satanist don't believe in those things either as a central belief. As I said I don't reject his conclusions by his appearance.

Bozo the phd clown could have a good argument, but he can make that argument without dressing like a clown. If Kent dressed up like Jesus to debate I wouldn't watch it either. That kinda of sillyness should really be avoided in a debate. I probably wouldn't watch Kent debate anyone anyway but certainly not dressed up as Jesus.

 

[Sanoy]

Kent Hovind - Wikipedia

Yep, that is what I was referring too when I said he was an ex con.

 

[HitchSlap]

Then what was your point about him looking like a "satanist," if not to be obtuse?

Satanist don't believe in those things either as a central belief. As I said I don't reject his conclusions by his appearance.

Bozo the phd clown could have a good argument, but he can make that argument without dressing like a clown. If Kent dressed up like Jesus to debate I wouldn't watch it either. That kinda of sillyness should really be avoided in a debate. I probably wouldn't watch Kent debate anyone anyway but certainly not dressed up as Jesus.

 

[HitchSlap]

Maybe you're young, homeschooled, naive or just plain unaware, but people look different than you, and are under no obligation to earn your style approval.

Satanist don't believe in those things either as a central belief. As I said I don't reject his conclusions by his appearance.

Bozo the phd clown could have a good argument, but he can make that argument without dressing like a clown. If Kent dressed up like Jesus to debate I wouldn't watch it either. That kinda of sillyness should really be avoided in a debate. I probably wouldn't watch Kent debate anyone anyway but certainly not dressed up as Jesus.

 

[Sanoy]

Then what was your point about him looking like a "satanist," if not to be obtuse?

It was a question, not a point. Remember how I put (actual question) at the end to which you replied with a very amusing response followed with (actual answer).

 

[Speedwell]

Satanist don't believe in those things either as a central belief. As I said I don't reject his conclusions by his appearance.

Bozo the phd clown could have a good argument, but he can make that argument without dressing like a clown. If Kent dressed up like Jesus to debate I wouldn't watch it either. That kinda of sillyness should really be avoided in a debate. I probably wouldn't watch Kent debate anyone anyway but certainly not dressed up as Jesus.

You seem to have led something of a sheltered existence. Aaron's appearance is no more than slightly eccentric by normal standards.

 

[Sanoy]

Maybe you're young, homeschooled, naive or just plain unaware, but people look different than you, and are under no obligation to earn your style approval.

I never said he was obligated. If bozo the clown wanted to debate someone in costume thats his right but it's also my right not to waste my time watching such a thing.

 

[Larniavc]

I have seen a couple of Aron Ra's debates. Is his appearance because he is a satanist or is it just a poor choice? (actual question)

I shave my head: does that make me an anti satanist?

And my wife has long hair, is she a satanist?

 

[Sanoy]

I shave my head: does that make me an anti satanist?

And my wife has long hair, is she a satanist?

No, and that question was already asked and answered in the thread.

 

[HitchSlap]

I never said he was obligated. If bozo the clown wants to debate someone in costume thats his right but it's also my right not to waste my time watching such a thing.

And you felt compelled to drop in here and let us all know what you don't care to listen to?

Go away already.

 

[Steve Petersen]

I believe in evolution, but surely you could have done better posting material that supports evolution from someone with actual credentials.

Aron Ra is just some guy.

 

[Sanoy]

You seem to have led something of a sheltered existence. Aaron's appearance is no more than slightly eccentric by normal standards.

I guess I have just been sheltered with a higher standard of debate proponents.

 

[HitchSlap]

I shave my head: does that make me an anti satanist?

And my wife has long hair, is she a satanist?

Isn't Anton LaVey bald?

Hmmmmmm.........